Allen2Moulds Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 24 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I don’t feel a lot different than you, it’s more I think what people are missing is we had so many 1 score games this season because the offense stunk under Dorsey. Look at Jets week 1 vs Jets with Brady and Dorsey out for example. So I don’t blame anyone for PTSD on close games, but I don’t think we will have those close games where we need to lean on the D to close a game with how the offense has played if they can keep it up. Even the Eagles game came down to some offensive miscues that put our D in that position in OT to try and close out a win. But now, 2 weeks of games and a bye for Brady to settle in and I think this O is going to be rolling rest of season and help take pressure off the D to close out games. That's a good point, and you're right, I didn't factor that at all. Maybe a dominant win or two against a good team, and we can get our mojo back. I'm a big believer in the part that psychology plays into sports. If we do get in, and I believe we will. We'll be as dangerous as ever. 2 Quote
cgg716 Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 2:08 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Bills are going to make the playoffs, and I actually believe like I did in 2021 when we were 6 games out that we are going to probably win out. I know this will be split between the over optimistic crowd and the overly negative crowd, but I am not saying this to just say it. In 2021 I thought the Bills figured something out in the 2nd half of the Bucs game and I started a thread saying we would win out and they did. This year, not saying it out of blind homerism, but I really do think this team is about to finish the season strong and likely win out and make the playoffs because I am fully convinced that this offense under Brady is not just a 2 game fling and is going to continue down the stretch. Ive been watching a lot of content on the Dorsey offense vs the differences in the Brady led offense, and its remarkable Dorsey kept his job as long as he did. This offense IMHO has turned a corner that will stay the rest of the season. Its now coming off a bye week to get even more settled into what Brady wants to do and tweaks and wrinkles they want to install. So lets look at what is in store and why I feel this team is about to cook the next 5 weeks and enter the playoffs as maybe the hottest team in the AFC: KC - Coming off a loss and an offense with no identity anymore. The personnel grouping there is shockingly bad and this offense can no longer keep up with high powered offenses. The thing that has saved KC this year has been the much improved defense, but that defense just got cooked by GB and took some injuries in that game too. I think the Bills coming in off a bye, KC in an offensive rut, Rasul and Linval now more comfortable in our defense, and this just feels like a game the Bills win and probably win decisively. DAL - They are the Dolphins of the NFC - They struggle against the better teams in the league while boosting stats on bad teams. Their "DPOY" just got torched by Seattle along with their whole defense, and that offense in Seattle is mediocre at best. Dak on the road in Buffalo is a recipe for a down game. I think because of Buffalos 6-6 record and early season offensive struggles that people see this game as more dangerous than it really is. I actually think we are going to beat the Cowboys handedly. Wouldn't surprise me if it looks a lot like what the Niners did to Dallas. LAC - Allen and this offense will drop over 40 on that defense, especially without Bosa. Herbert and that offense can score too, and this might be a high scoring game, but Staley and the LAC are the best in the NFL at losing games, so even if they put a lot of points up I still think the Bills win by 2 scores. NE - Its New England - we arent losing to them twice. Bottom 3 team in the NFL right now without question. MIAMI - With Trevors ankle injury, and KC losing to GB and probably losing to us this week, the #1 seed could very well be locked down for Miami by week 17 and they would rest their starters for all or part of the game. Either way, I do not expect Miami to have much to play for and we probably don't see their starters for more than a half. BUT even if they do need to win and play the whole game, we always cook the Fish, so a dub either way in my eyes. The key to beating Miami is take away Tuas first read and don't give up the big play, something the Bills have excelled at during the Tua-Hill era. I see 5 games, and I see 5 wins. Negative crowd is gonna flame away, just like they did in 2021. But I really do think this team is about to cook these last 5 weeks and that momentum will carry over into the post season where I don't see too much of a threat standing in the way to reach the AFCCG for the Bills. With the offense humming and the defense integrating so much needed veteran reinforcements in Rasul and Linval, I think we are poised to make a run here. I think 5-0 is quite possible, but even 4-1 may get the job done of getting in. Defense will give up at least 30 in 4 of these games. And the coach sucks, will cost us multiple games 33 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I don’t feel a lot different than you, it’s more I think what people are missing is we had so many 1 score games this season because the offense stunk under Dorsey. Look at Jets week 1 vs Jets with Brady and Dorsey out for example. So I don’t blame anyone for PTSD on close games, but I don’t think we will have those close games where we need to lean on the D to close a game with how the offense has played if they can keep it up. Even the Eagles game came down to some offensive miscues that put our D in that position in OT to try and close out a win. But now, 2 weeks of games and a bye for Brady to settle in and I think this O is going to be rolling rest of season and help take pressure off the D to close out games. Jets game is the bad loss that was the offense fault. NE, DEN and Phi, all D 2 Quote
PauleeeWalnuts Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 2:08 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Bills are going to make the playoffs, and I actually believe like I did in 2021 when we were 6 games out that we are going to probably win out. I know this will be split between the over optimistic crowd and the overly negative crowd, but I am not saying this to just say it. In 2021 I thought the Bills figured something out in the 2nd half of the Bucs game and I started a thread saying we would win out and they did. This year, not saying it out of blind homerism, but I really do think this team is about to finish the season strong and likely win out and make the playoffs because I am fully convinced that this offense under Brady is not just a 2 game fling and is going to continue down the stretch. Ive been watching a lot of content on the Dorsey offense vs the differences in the Brady led offense, and its remarkable Dorsey kept his job as long as he did. This offense IMHO has turned a corner that will stay the rest of the season. Its now coming off a bye week to get even more settled into what Brady wants to do and tweaks and wrinkles they want to install. So lets look at what is in store and why I feel this team is about to cook the next 5 weeks and enter the playoffs as maybe the hottest team in the AFC: KC - Coming off a loss and an offense with no identity anymore. The personnel grouping there is shockingly bad and this offense can no longer keep up with high powered offenses. The thing that has saved KC this year has been the much improved defense, but that defense just got cooked by GB and took some injuries in that game too. I think the Bills coming in off a bye, KC in an offensive rut, Rasul and Linval now more comfortable in our defense, and this just feels like a game the Bills win and probably win decisively. DAL - They are the Dolphins of the NFC - They struggle against the better teams in the league while boosting stats on bad teams. Their "DPOY" just got torched by Seattle along with their whole defense, and that offense in Seattle is mediocre at best. Dak on the road in Buffalo is a recipe for a down game. I think because of Buffalos 6-6 record and early season offensive struggles that people see this game as more dangerous than it really is. I actually think we are going to beat the Cowboys handedly. Wouldn't surprise me if it looks a lot like what the Niners did to Dallas. LAC - Allen and this offense will drop over 40 on that defense, especially without Bosa. Herbert and that offense can score too, and this might be a high scoring game, but Staley and the LAC are the best in the NFL at losing games, so even if they put a lot of points up I still think the Bills win by 2 scores. NE - Its New England - we arent losing to them twice. Bottom 3 team in the NFL right now without question. MIAMI - With Trevors ankle injury, and KC losing to GB and probably losing to us this week, the #1 seed could very well be locked down for Miami by week 17 and they would rest their starters for all or part of the game. Either way, I do not expect Miami to have much to play for and we probably don't see their starters for more than a half. BUT even if they do need to win and play the whole game, we always cook the Fish, so a dub either way in my eyes. The key to beating Miami is take away Tuas first read and don't give up the big play, something the Bills have excelled at during the Tua-Hill era. I see 5 games, and I see 5 wins. Negative crowd is gonna flame away, just like they did in 2021. But I really do think this team is about to cook these last 5 weeks and that momentum will carry over into the post season where I don't see too much of a threat standing in the way to reach the AFCCG for the Bills. With the offense humming and the defense integrating so much needed veteran reinforcements in Rasul and Linval, I think we are poised to make a run here. I think 5-0 is quite possible, but even 4-1 may get the job done of getting in. 85% chance of missing the playoffs, those are not good odds. Add the fact the D can’t hold a lead to save their life and McD makes terrible decisions late, I cannot share your optimism here. Would be great, just highly unlikely they even get there Quote
TampaBillsJunkie Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 5 hours ago, colin said: our chance to win every game more or less comes down to the offense executing well enough to take the game out of the refs and our own ds hands, with brady showing some cahones i'll ride with that This 100x 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 Nobody wants to face us in the playoffs! 1 2 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 2:08 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Bills are going to make the playoffs, and I actually believe like I did in 2021 when we were 6 games out that we are going to probably win out. I know this will be split between the over optimistic crowd and the overly negative crowd, but I am not saying this to just say it. In 2021 I thought the Bills figured something out in the 2nd half of the Bucs game and I started a thread saying we would win out and they did. This year, not saying it out of blind homerism, but I really do think this team is about to finish the season strong and likely win out and make the playoffs because I am fully convinced that this offense under Brady is not just a 2 game fling and is going to continue down the stretch. Ive been watching a lot of content on the Dorsey offense vs the differences in the Brady led offense, and its remarkable Dorsey kept his job as long as he did. This offense IMHO has turned a corner that will stay the rest of the season. Its now coming off a bye week to get even more settled into what Brady wants to do and tweaks and wrinkles they want to install. So lets look at what is in store and why I feel this team is about to cook the next 5 weeks and enter the playoffs as maybe the hottest team in the AFC: KC - Coming off a loss and an offense with no identity anymore. The personnel grouping there is shockingly bad and this offense can no longer keep up with high powered offenses. The thing that has saved KC this year has been the much improved defense, but that defense just got cooked by GB and took some injuries in that game too. I think the Bills coming in off a bye, KC in an offensive rut, Rasul and Linval now more comfortable in our defense, and this just feels like a game the Bills win and probably win decisively. DAL - They are the Dolphins of the NFC - They struggle against the better teams in the league while boosting stats on bad teams. Their "DPOY" just got torched by Seattle along with their whole defense, and that offense in Seattle is mediocre at best. Dak on the road in Buffalo is a recipe for a down game. I think because of Buffalos 6-6 record and early season offensive struggles that people see this game as more dangerous than it really is. I actually think we are going to beat the Cowboys handedly. Wouldn't surprise me if it looks a lot like what the Niners did to Dallas. LAC - Allen and this offense will drop over 40 on that defense, especially without Bosa. Herbert and that offense can score too, and this might be a high scoring game, but Staley and the LAC are the best in the NFL at losing games, so even if they put a lot of points up I still think the Bills win by 2 scores. NE - Its New England - we arent losing to them twice. Bottom 3 team in the NFL right now without question. MIAMI - With Trevors ankle injury, and KC losing to GB and probably losing to us this week, the #1 seed could very well be locked down for Miami by week 17 and they would rest their starters for all or part of the game. Either way, I do not expect Miami to have much to play for and we probably don't see their starters for more than a half. BUT even if they do need to win and play the whole game, we always cook the Fish, so a dub either way in my eyes. The key to beating Miami is take away Tuas first read and don't give up the big play, something the Bills have excelled at during the Tua-Hill era. I see 5 games, and I see 5 wins. Negative crowd is gonna flame away, just like they did in 2021. But I really do think this team is about to cook these last 5 weeks and that momentum will carry over into the post season where I don't see too much of a threat standing in the way to reach the AFCCG for the Bills. With the offense humming and the defense integrating so much needed veteran reinforcements in Rasul and Linval, I think we are poised to make a run here. I think 5-0 is quite possible, but even 4-1 may get the job done of getting in. hmmmm... Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted December 7, 2023 Author Posted December 7, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 3:25 PM, HappyDays said: Man we are a 6-6 team. I appreciate the optimism but it's too late in the season for the team to fix its myriad of problems. Dorsey WAS a big problem and I'm happy to see him gone but the other issues are not fixable at this point in the season. Just going off of pure math, it's incredibly unlikely we'll run the table. Here's how I see the odds of us winning each remaining game (you can bicker on the individual percentages, but I think most will find this fairly accurate): Chiefs 50% Cowboys 40% Chargers 70% Patriots 95% Dolphins 50% Statistically that means we are 6.65% likely to run the table... Even 4 wins against only our AFC opponents is just 16.625% likely. I'll keep the hope alive until they're mathematically eliminated but realistically this is not our year. No disrespect but these percentages have no value, are just your personal opinion and honestly do t make any sense. For example, we throttled Miami, and have held Tua and Hill in check the last 2 seasons. Yet you have them at 50%? And more importantly, you’re using percentages on how you see it today. We beat KC there is no way our odds of beating Dallas are just 40% in Buffalo against a Dallas team that has floundered against good teams and run up scores and stats on bad ones. Dak outside in the elements is not the same Dak indoors against a weak team. So your 6% chance isn’t realistically accurate at all IMHO and is three to 4 times lower than any other professional predictor out there, including Vegas. Again, doesn’t mean it’s a lock either that we make playoffs, just saying this was a lot of numbers that really don’t have any base is actual statistics. Quote
philholbroo Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 so go ahead and buy tickets to arrowhead? Quote
DC Greg Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Yeah that’d be swell and yes the offense looks improved under Brady and yes Josh Allen is a superstar but… Sean no nuts McDermott is still the head coach. If any of these games are within one score late, he is going to blow it. It’s clockwork. So unless the Bills blow out all their remaining opponents, McD gunna find a way to McD unfortunately. 5 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Nobody wants to face us in the playoffs! We can write this on the tombstone for the 2023 Bills playoffless season. 1 Quote
damj Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 5:08 PM, Alphadawg7 said: While its certainly reasonable they could not go 5-0...you analogy here is just pretty ridiculous. They just destroyed the Jets for crying out loud in 3 quarters before they took the foot off the gas. We don't play Denver, we already played them and was the catalyst to fire Dorsey Yeah, I realized that after I posted ... I meant the Chargers ... but still ... On 12/5/2023 at 6:19 PM, BRH said: "I don't know who we play in three weeks but I know we're gonna lose to them." Yeah ... I realized after I posted ... Chargers ... Broncos... whatever Quote
Gregg Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 14 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Nobody wants to face us in the playoffs! Maybe in the AFC but the 49ers don't care and will play anyone, anywhere, anytime in any conditions. 1 1 1 Quote
njbuff Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 Problem is that the Bills are their own worst enemies. Is that going to change all of a sudden? Doubtful. Quote
HomeskillitMoorman Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 On 12/5/2023 at 12:46 PM, TheFunPolice said: I'm telling you... I had a dream: Bills/ Lions in the Super Bowl and we were up 40 something to 20 something very late Did we blow it like we would in real life? Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) They will reach to the Championship the same way I will, with a remote control in our hand Edited December 7, 2023 by Gunsgoodtime 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted December 8, 2023 Posted December 8, 2023 I’m just worried about getting past the next game with victory Quote
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted December 9, 2023 Posted December 9, 2023 They are playing some very good teams down the stretch. McD put them in this position and I don’t think we make the playoffs unless a few other teams have a epic collapse Quote
KeLLy1278 Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Even if they do.. so what? Making it to the SB is something but losing in the playoffs.. why would anyone care about just another playoff loss? 1 Quote
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