MikePJ76 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 I fear the steelers are actually going to get better on offense and maybe score points with Pickett out. 1 Quote
Utah John Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 We aren't really just one game back. Because we lost so many games in the AFC and the AFCE, we lose every tiebreaker. The unforgiveable loss to the Patriots, and the 12 men on the field against Denver, are what will keep the Bills out of the playoffs. 1 1 Quote
RG Murdock Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 10 hours ago, bills6969 said: Gonna be tough to beat the chiefs coming off a loss Doesn't matter. No more excuses for this team. If they are to be taken even remotely serious they need to win this game. A loss confirms they are frauds, and no one will take the Bills seriously... No one. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, RG Murdock said: Doesn't matter. No more excuses for this team. If they are to be taken even remotely serious they need to win this game. A loss confirms they are frauds, and no one will take the Bills seriously... No one. Who is taking the Bills seriously right now? The losses to the Jets, Pats, and Broncos already made us into jokes. The individual talent is there, but with this coaching our whole is less than the sum of our parts. 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Utah John said: We aren't really just one game back. Because we lost so many games in the AFC and the AFCE, we lose every tiebreaker. The unforgiveable loss to the Patriots, and the 12 men on the field against Denver, are what will keep the Bills out of the playoffs. The texans plays the colts and the browns. The colts play the steelers, texans and bengals The broncos play the chargers twice...and finish at the raiders.( and the lions in detroit) The browns have jax, the texans and the bengals. The steelers play at the colts and at the ravens and also have a game at seattle Most of the teams buffalo is competing with are going to get a few more losses and in the conference. Denver might lose that game at detroit. The browns and steelers could both finish 9-8 I thought it was over but there is a long way to go and the bills could steal a wild card spot if denver loses two more games which they definitely can. Edited December 4, 2023 by MikePJ76 2 Quote
Gregg Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 These next 2 weeks will tell the story. I do think the Bills will beat the Chargers, Pats and Dolphins who they match up well against. It's the Chiefs and Cowboys games where I think they slip up. If (It's a big if) they can win these next 2 games, then they will have a good chance to run the table. Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: The texans plays the colts and the browns. The colts play the steelers, texans and bengals The broncos play the chargers twice...and finish at the raiders.( and the lions in detroit) The browns have jax, the texans and the bengals. Most of the teams buffalo is competing with are going to get a few more losses and in the conference. Denver might lose that game at detroit. I thought it was over but there is a long way to go and the bills could steal a wild card spot if denver loses two more games which they definitely can. Regardless, have to win the next two imo. 2 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Regardless, have to win the next two imo. absolutely. I pointed out two weeks ago that the eagles game was not a must win but KC is. The eagles were ripe to be beaten and are not as good as their record. KC is playing exactly to their record. They are a very good not great team with a fantastic qb. Playing them in KC will be the issue this week. Its going to be 7 days of we didn't get any calls in KC and then the officials will over compensate next week and everything will be a penalty. I can only imagine the whining Big Fat Andy Reid is doing this morning to the league. If the Bills win in KC this week imo, all is forgiven and its the reset button on the season. Buffalo can beat Dallas in Buffalo, it will be similar to the eagles game. Then they can find a groove. Lose in KC and it will be near impossible to find a way in. Edited December 4, 2023 by MikePJ76 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: absolutely. I pointed out two weeks ago that the eagles game was not a must win but KC is. The eagles were ripe to be beaten and are not as good as their record. KC is playing exactly to their record. They are a very good not great team with a fantastic qb. Playing them in KC will be the issue this week. Its going to be 7 days of we didn't get any calls in KC and then the officials will over compensate next week and everything will be a penalty. I can only imagine the whining Big Fat Andy Reid is doing this morning to the league. If the Bills win in KC this week imo, all is forgiven and its the reset button on the season. Buffalo can beat Dallas in Buffalo, it will be similar to the eagles game. Then they can find a groove. Lose in KC and it will be near impossible to find a way in. Again why I started a 5-0 thread down the stretch. Really is doable, just worry if any games are close how McD will respond. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Again why I started a 5-0 thread down the stretch. Really is doable, just worry if any games are close how McD will respond. Well the team needs to find a way to play better 4th quarter defense and the special teams have to somehow improve because they have been poor all year. Its interesting that the Bengals could be the team that helps the bills again. If the bengals steal the games vs the colts and browns that could help the bills sneak in at 10-7 in the 7th spot. Quote
TampaBillsJunkie Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) The way in is to win out. That's the only true hope we have. 10-7 is going to keep us out because of head to heads and conference record. This is the playoffs. Every game from here out is do or die. The chance we get in at the #7 seed at 10-7 is probably about 35% and a lot of things would have to fall our way in the conference. Edited December 4, 2023 by TampaBillsJunkie Quote
Utah John Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Who is taking the Bills seriously right now? The losses to the Jets, Pats, and Broncos already made us into jokes. The individual talent is there, but with this coaching our whole is less than the sum of our parts. The Bills are the NFL's version of Casey at the Bat. Quote
ProcessTruster Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 not nearly over. win all 4 conference games and prob sneak in as a wild card. totally doable. Win out and we win the division if Miami loses just one game. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, TampaBillsJunkie said: The way in is to win out. That's the only true hope we have. 10-7 is going to keep us out because of head to heads and conference record. This is the playoffs. Every game from here out is do or die. The chance we get in at the #7 seed at 10-7 is probably about 35% and a lot of things would have to fall our way in the conference. That is not exactly true though. If the bills go 4-1 with the loss being Dallas they would finish 10-7, 4-2 in the afc east, 7-5 in the conference and 3-2 non conference. For instance, the Broncos are 3-5 in the Conference with two games left vs the chargers and a week 18 game at the Raiders....week 18 games are as unpredictable as week 1 games. The broncos could split with the chargers making them 7-7, lose at detroit, 7-8, beat the pats 8-8....they could be 8-8 with a 5-6 conference record heading into week 18 at the raiders. the steelers and browns are both 5-3 in the conference. Pittsburgh has the colts bengals and ravens. They could lose all 3 plus they play at seattle. The browns have the jags, texans.....and a week 18 game at the bengals. They could lose all 3. What the bills need is to win all their afc games and hope the bengals can screw up cleveland and pittsburgh's seasons. 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said: Regardless, have to win the next two imo. wrong. win all 4 conference games and lose to Dallas and prob get in as wild card, which would be fine. Seems like the other wild card candidates are now cratering or have no QB and are set up to lose 2 or more down the stretch. 3 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: That is not exactly true though. If the bills go 4-1 with the loss being Dallas they would finish 10-7, 4-2 in the afc east, 7-5 in the conference and 3-2 non conference. For instance, the Broncos are 3-5 in the Conference with two games left vs the chargers and a week 18 game at the Raiders....week 18 games are as unpredictable as week 1 games. The broncos could split with the chargers making them 7-7, lose at detroit, 7-8, beat the pats 8-8....they could be 8-8 with a 5-6 conference record heading into week 18 at the raiders. the steelers and browns are both 5-3 in the conference. Pittsburgh has the colts bengals and ravens. They could lose all 3 plus they play at seattle. The browns have the jags, texans.....and a week 18 game at the bengals. They could lose all 3. What the bills need is to win all their afc games and hope the bengals can screw up cleveland and pittsburgh's seasons. correct. We love Mitch Trubisky, etc, but he can barely take the snap. Browns are rolling through multiple backup QBs and lost to the freakin Rams. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: wrong. win all 4 conference games and lose to Dallas and prob get in as wild card, which would be fine. Seems like the other wild card candidates are now cratering or have no QB and are set up to lose 2 or more down the stretch. correct. We love Mitch Trubisky, etc, but he can barely take the snap. Browns are rolling through multiple backup QBs and lost to the freakin Rams. The rams are much better than people think. That is a very talented offense with some good defensive players and one of the better coaches in the league. Quote
DapperCam Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 Assuming we will hold no tie breakers and the Bills finish 10-7 (allowing one more loss). We need 4 out of the following 6 records (or worse) to happen. Browns to go 2-3 Steelers to go 2-3 Colts to go 2-3 Texans to go 2-3 Broncos to go 3-2 Bengals to go 4-2 Here they are in the order I think they are most likely Bengals will lose at least 2 more games with Burrow out all year. Broncos will lose 2 more games (split with the Chargers and lose to the Lions). Steelers will lose 3 more games (at Colts, at Seahawks, at Ravens). Browns will lose 3 more games (Jacksonville, at Texans, and then one more loss between Bears, Jets and Bengals). Colts will lose 3 more games (Raiders, at Falcons, Texans) Texans will lose 3 more games (2x Titans, at Colts) Obviously there is some overlap in these scenarios because teams play each other. If the Bills can get to 10-7 I think the most likely playoff teams will be Colts, Texans and Bills (with the Browns having a decent chance of knocking out the Bills if they can manage to only get 2 more losses the rest of the way). 1 Quote
Gregg Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: not nearly over. win all 4 conference games and prob sneak in as a wild card. totally doable. Win out and we win the division if Miami loses just one game. Miami is 9-3. The Bills are 6-6. The Dolphins are going to have to lose more than one game for the Bills to win the division. It's either WC or go home for the Bills this year. 1 Quote
Billsfan1972 Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: wrong. win all 4 conference games and lose to Dallas and prob get in as wild card, which would be fine. Seems like the other wild card candidates are now cratering or have no QB and are set up to lose 2 or more down the stretch. correct. We love Mitch Trubisky, etc, but he can barely take the snap. Browns are rolling through multiple backup QBs and lost to the freakin Rams. Yes I know 10-7 could make it (as long as the Bills beat KC), but stating that for confidence and the teams state of mind. Quote
TheFunPolice Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 happens every single year... We go from "you might need 11 wins to get in, and even then..." to an 8-8 team technically being alive in week 18 if they win and 13 other things happen (and more often than it seems possible they do). In the NFL, fortune favors those who win lots of games 1 Quote
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