College Football Playoffs 2023

[US Egg]

Like ‘em or not, Alabama in it makes for a better event.

 

Go ‘Bama !

[JMM]

21 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah, he looked great against the really tough Louisville (defense last night who gave up 31 points to Kentucky).  And I understand how you are butt hurt by  Alabama getting in and I want you to feel better. Still, comparing the ACC to the SEC really is silly. Clemson was great and now even they are just a so-so team.

 

I give you credit however for taking a stand, especially when there are probably only about 6 or 7 college football fans in the world think that the ACC is anywhere close to being almost as good as the SEC but hey; one cannot put a price on originality.

You DO understand that he was their 3RD stringer right?  And that their BACKUP  would have played,  with a month of prep. But maybe you don't know that.

 

 

 

Secondly,  butt hurt? Lol I have no skin in the game,  I'm not a fan of any of the teams. And I want competitive entertaining games as much as anyone.  BUT I don't want that at the expense of integrity and fairness. My opinion is not an outlier by any means

[JMM]

25 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah, he looked great against the really tough Louisville (defense last night who gave up 31 points to Kentucky).  And I understand how you are butt hurt by  Alabama getting in and I want you to feel better. Still, comparing the ACC to the SEC really is silly. Clemson was great and now even they are just a so-so team.

 

I give you credit however for taking a stand, especially when there are probably only about 6 or 7 college football fans in the world think that the ACC is anywhere close to being almost as good as the SEC but hey; one cannot put a price on originality.

BTW did you watch Alabama last week, against powerhouse Auburn? And the Billsy miracle they needed to win. So Bama was THISCLOSE to 2 losses and not being in the playoff. But FSU had NO chance of winning the national championship,  especially with that VERY average defense that they have....🙄

[ArdmoreRyno]

2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

I get it.  Strength of schedule means little to nothing to you and I clearly understand why. 

 

Florida State had a rough time against Louisville, who was beat by Kentucky, a middling at best SEC team. In fact, Louisville gave up 38 points to Kentucky iirc. Florida State is not even close to Georgia and/or Alabama. There is just no comparison. Why didn't FSU jump to the SEC? I think it is safe to assume that they know that they would struggle to be a .500 team.  

 

I am not saying that Alabama will win the title but if they do, it would not be the first time that they won it from the 4th seed. We will see what happens but at least we really might have been spared another debacle like the trouncing of TCU last season, wouldn't you say?

 

 

 

Bill, I know you're a big Bama fan but come on. How good is the SEC? Really?

 

New Mexico State destroyed a team you were LUCKY AF to beat. 

 

Florida State went out and played LSU on the road and won. They won at Florida with a backup QB. They did everything they were supposed to do. This is the CPF Committee and ESPN being in love with the SEC. 

4 hours ago, FireChans said:

Hey now, it’s not like we’ve ever seen a backup QB win a national championship before.

Let’s be fair. They also barely held on against USF

 

Alabama was lucky to beat Auburn (Basically a hailmary). Auburn was embarrassed at home by freakin' New Mexico State.

[SinceThe70s]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

As I said in a previous post, I know little about Michigan. Yolo, Willyville Guy, and many other posters do follow the Big 10 and I hope that they chime in.

 

Your question about UGA is a very good one. I think that Georgia is far superior to Washington. This of course doesn't mean that I am correct. Obviously I am partial to the SEC and lack a great deal of respect for other conferences but yes, UGA is clearly one of the 4 best teams. 

 

The above is of course jmo. It is not an all knowing proclamation and I know that the Alabama haters are butt hurt. Still, a few of facts do remain:

 

1) Georgia won 29 straight games, 2 consecutive national titles, was raanked #1 for most of the season and Alabama defeated them, in Georgia.

 

2) The last four national titles were won by LSU, Alabama, Georgia, and Georgia. 

 

This has to be indicative of something, no?

 

And btw I appreciate the dialogue.

 

 

It's indicative of past performance.  Shouldn't be considered at all when choosing the 2023 top 4 imo. 

[FireChans]

32 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Bill, I know you're a big Bama fan but come on. How good is the SEC? Really?

 

New Mexico State destroyed a team you were LUCKY AF to beat. 

 

Florida State went out and played LSU on the road and won. They won at Florida with a backup QB. They did everything they were supposed to do. This is the CPF Committee and ESPN being in love with the SEC. 

 

Alabama was lucky to beat Auburn (Basically a hailmary). Auburn was embarrassed at home by freakin' New Mexico State.

I was talking about Alabama. It was a one score game vs USF til the final minutes lol

[streetkings01]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah, he looked great against the really tough Louisville (defense last night who gave up 31 points to Kentucky).  And I understand how you are butt hurt by  Alabama getting in and I want you to feel better. Still, comparing the ACC to the SEC really is silly. Clemson was great and now even they are just a so-so team.

 

I give you credit however for taking a stand, especially when there are probably only about 6 or 7 college football fans in the world think that the ACC is anywhere close to being almost as good as the SEC but hey; one cannot put a price on originality.

Who are the dominant SEC teams not named Georgia or Bama? From what I’ve seen over the past few seasons is other than Bama and Georgia who run thru the SEC with no problem while the rest just beat up on each other.

 

Im just tryna figure out how a conference that’s so great is dominated by 2 teams over the past decade. Outside of a season where LSU had Burrow/Chase/Jefferson no other SEC has looked close to being a title contender 🤷🏽‍♂️

[Southern_Bills]

I'm a Bama fan and I feel really bad for FSU. They were left out on an injury, it's that simple.

 

I'm obviously glad Bama is in and I think they are top 4, but FSU definitely got a tough break.

[4merper4mer]

2 hours ago, Lionel Hutz said:

The Seminole Tribe approves of FSU using their name, unlike the Chiefs that stole FSU's chant and have no connection to any tribe.

To be fair the Chiefs probably took it from the Atlanta Braves and they may be connected by half of each roster having humped Taylor Swift.

[Southern_Bills]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

I was talking about Alabama. It was a one score game vs USF til the final minutes lol

 

Yeah, they were lucky to win it. It was the week after Texas, like watching paint dry.

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yeah, he looked great against the really tough Louisville (defense last night who gave up 31 points to Kentucky).  And I understand how you are butt hurt by  Alabama getting in and I want you to feel better. Still, comparing the ACC to the SEC really is silly. Clemson was great and now even they are just a so-so team.

 

 

That kid is a totally worthless human being incapable of ever improving.  Thank God the committee screwed the rest of his team and made him a scapegoat for the rest of his life.  So classy of these gentlemen for thrusting hardship on this kid.  If he didn’t want to be publicly blamed by the committee for FSU’s omission, he should have stopped being a worthless sack of crap and been a 5 star backup like that awesome Bama kid.  Do I have that right?

[CookieG]

2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

Lol you conveniently left out that TCU won a playoff game while making a case they were unworthy of a spot.  That’s not logical.

Ha, yeah, there is that.

 

That's why the non-SEC strength of schedule/strength of conference is ludicrous. 

 

Should Michigan actually win a game in the playoffs, it will be the first non-Ohio St. Big10 team to actually win a playoff game, much less a national championship.

In fact it could be argued it would be the first non-Ohio St. Big Ten team to actually put up a decent game. 

 

I dont recall a more overrated conference/division for so long, in any sport.

 

[Bill from NYC]

33 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

It's indicative of past performance.  Shouldn't be considered at all when choosing the 2023 top 4 imo. 

OK.....did you watch FSU vs. Louisville and Alabama vs. Georgia? If so, are you really ready to say that FSU is even almost as good as either Bama or Georgia?  They are not even in the same class as either of those teams. 

I really dont think that there are many people in the world that think FSU, especially missing their quarterback, would stand a chance against those two powerhouses. Sorry, I can't understand how anyone could think this, especially given the fact that they are coached by Saban and Smart..

[streetkings01]

22 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

OK.....did you watch FSU vs. Louisville and Alabama vs. Georgia? If so, are you really ready to say that FSU is even almost as good as either Bama or Georgia?  They are not even in the same class as either of those teams. 

I really dont think that there are many people in the world that think FSU, especially missing their quarterback, would stand a chance against those two powerhouses. Sorry, I can't understand how anyone could think this, especially given the fact that they are coached by Saban and Smart..

I’m an FSU fan…..we played Louisville with our 3rd string true freshman QB. Tate Rodemaker(2nd string QB)is more than capable of helping this team win a championship and would’ve had a full month of practice. What we did see Saturday was a defense totally dominate its opponent and hold a ranked team to only 6 points…..let’s overlook that part tho!

 

Yes FSU is just as good/talented as Georgia and Bama…..go ask LSU and Florida!

Edited December 4, 2023 by streetkings01

[4merper4mer]

50 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

I’m an FSU fan…..we played Louisville with our 3rd string true freshman QB. Tate Rodemaker(2nd string QB)is more than capable of helping this team win a championship and would’ve had a full month of practice. What we did see Saturday was a defense totally dominate its opponent and hold a ranked team to only 6 points…..let’s overlook that part tho!

 

Yes FSU is just as good/talented as Georgia and Bama…..go ask LSU and Florida!

Don’t take it too hard.  Trashing a college freshman’s name is only collateral damage for the committee in pursuit of promoting Bama.  Honestly, that kid should sue the ever loving daylights out of that committee.  They literally trashed him in public and blamed him for FSU’s exclusion.  It’s one thing if they spin it or keep quiet but they used this kid as a scapegoat.  It’s at least grounds to file a defamation suit.

Edited December 4, 2023 by 4merper4mer

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, streetkings01 said:

Who are the dominant SEC teams not named Georgia or Bama? From what I’ve seen over the past few seasons is other than Bama and Georgia who run thru the SEC with no problem while the rest just beat up on each other.

 

Im just tryna figure out how a conference that’s so great is dominated by 2 teams over the past decade. Outside of a season where LSU had Burrow/Chase/Jefferson no other SEC has looked close to being a title contender 🤷🏽‍♂️

It’s the scam of the SEC. Alabama is impressive because they beat Tennessee. Is Tennessee good? NOPE.

 

They barely beat TAMU and Kentucky, lost to Florida and got blown out by Mizzou. But they are a feather in the cap for Bama. Why? Because they play in the SEC.

[FireChans]

3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

As I said in a previous post, I know little about Michigan. Yolo, Willyville Guy, and many other posters do follow the Big 10 and I hope that they chime in.

 

Your question about UGA is a very good one. I think that Georgia is far superior to Washington. This of course doesn't mean that I am correct. Obviously I am partial to the SEC and lack a great deal of respect for other conferences but yes, UGA is clearly one of the 4 best teams. 

 

The above is of course jmo. It is not an all knowing proclamation and I know that the Alabama haters are butt hurt. Still, a few of facts do remain:

 

1) Georgia won 29 straight games, 2 consecutive national titles, was raanked #1 for most of the season and Alabama defeated them, in Georgia.

 

2) The last four national titles were won by LSU, Alabama, Georgia, and Georgia. 

 

This has to be indicative of something, no?

 

And btw I appreciate the dialogue.

 

I think all of the logic of the committee is selectively applied.

 

They HAD to put Alabama in because they want the best 4. But Georgia is in the best 4 …. crickets.

 

They put Georgia 6th! They said FSU was more deserving than Georgia? Why? And why does that logic not apply to FSU vs. Bama?

 

So glad it’s a 12 team playoff going forward. This nonsense was getting so old. 
 

I’m sick of conference champions always making it, except when they don’t. I’m sick of 1 loss teams who don’t make the conference championship jumping the teams that make it to or win the conference finals.
 

It’s over. Now we will get March Madness style chaos and all of CFB will be better for it. 

[SinceThe70s]

1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said:

OK.....did you watch FSU vs. Louisville and Alabama vs. Georgia? If so, are you really ready to say that FSU is even almost as good as either Bama or Georgia?  They are not even in the same class as either of those teams. 

I really dont think that there are many people in the world that think FSU, especially missing their quarterback, would stand a chance against those two powerhouses. Sorry, I can't understand how anyone could think this, especially given the fact that they are coached by Saban and Smart..

 

I watched the better part of both of those games and I really made no assertion as to which teams I think were as good as Bama or Georgia. 

 

What I took exception to was your comments about past SEC champions. My assumption was that you were using that as justification for an SEC team being included this year. Were you? If so, why? If not, why bring it up? IMO it's irrelevant - and it makes me question whether it was a factor in excluding FSU. 

 

BTW, I find the missing their QB argument exceedingly weak - although from what I gather in this thread it is a selection criteria - which tells me it's more about TV ratings than rewarding regular season success.

[SirAndrew]

I don’t have a problem with the playoff teams. I have an issue with the logic. FSU is being excluded because their starting QB is injured. This makes a statement that the eye test matters more than wins/losses. I don’t think most people believe FSU with a backup is a top four team. However, where does Washington fit in? If the committee is bias against FSU with a backup, why don’t they have a bias that Washington doesn’t measure up? Who believes Washington is better than Georgia? Washington earned a spot by winning a power 5 conference with an undefeated record, the same as FSU. Just like FSU, is Washington really top four based on the eye test? The eye test was applied to FSU, why not Washington? I can’t understand the logic. 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, 4merper4mer said:

Don’t take it too hard.  Trashing a college freshman’s name is only collateral damage for the committee in pursuit of promoting Bama.  Honestly, that kid should sue the ever loving daylights out of that committee.  They literally trashed him in public and blamed him for FSU’s exclusion.  It’s one thing if they spin it or keep quiet but they used this kid as a scapegoat.  It’s at least grounds to file a defamation suit.

 

 

What are you even talking about?   The "kid" was a 4 star, elite 11 QB not some walk-on.   He wasn't up to the task.   It happens.   The committee shouldn't risk the kind of performance they might get from he or Orvile Rodemaker and leave us watching a got-dam azz whipping in one of those semi-final games.    They won a game at home versus Miami(barely) last month with an even lesser true freshman QB starting against them.    FSU did not finish the season like a top 4 team and ultimately they stood no chance of winning in the playoff.