ArdmoreRyno Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Florida State should have got in. Period. 13-0 in a Power 5. Alabama was a LUCKY 4th a 17th "Hail Mary" away from LOSING TO AUBURN. The team that got destroyed by New Mexico State. 3 1 Quote
streetkings01 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 SEC is the most overrated conference in football! They start the season with half the conference ranked in the top 20, beat each other up with no real out of conference competition and then beat their chest about how they played some type of manufactured gauntlet of a schedule 🙄 The SEC consists of Georgia, Bama, occasionally LSU and then everyone else! The ACC owned the so called best conference in football this season, but somehow their undefeated conference champion who beat 2 SEC teams this season was left out! 5 2 Quote
Buddy Hix Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 The “Seminoles” should be commended for taking their cultural appropriation to this level…getting screwed out of something that they fought hard for and was rightfully theirs by a bunch of ignorant Jim Crow types is next level commitment to the bit. And let’s also rejoice for ‘Bama. These rednecks, who couldn’t be bothered to score a 900 on their SATs, care nothing about standard of living and state poverty levels…football is all that matters. I’m happy for them. 2 2 Quote
FireChans Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: In fairness to Florida State, the committee should have notified them at the beginning of the season not to bother playing because they had already been eliminated. Cuz Bama. As usual. Hey now, it’s not like we’ve ever seen a backup QB win a national championship before. 5 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Florida State should have got in. Period. 13-0 in a Power 5. Alabama was a LUCKY 4th a 17th "Hail Mary" away from LOSING TO AUBURN. The team that got destroyed by New Mexico State. Let’s be fair. They also barely held on against USF Quote
FireChans Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 This is also why Bama fans fought the CFP expansion so hard. Bama’s chances of winning a Natty drop precipitously if there was a chance they met Georgia again. They know it. Their fans know it. Which is why when they scream “it was about the four best teams,” they never mention that Georgia is clearly better than Washington. They really don’t want to compete. 1 1 Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Alabama getting in lol CFB is a farce 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: SEC is the most overrated conference in football! They start the season with half the conference ranked in the top 20, beat each other up with no real out of conference competition and then beat their chest about how they played some type of manufactured gauntlet of a schedule 🙄 The SEC consists of Georgia, Bama, occasionally LSU and then everyone else! The ACC owned the so called best conference in football this season, but somehow their undefeated conference champion who beat 2 SEC teams this season was left out! The non conference Bama schedule was a reasonably tight game against USF, a curb stomp home defeat to Texas, a resounding victory over Chattanooga and another against MTSU. But we get the gaslighting about their tough schedule. Also: Kim Jung Il shot an 18 in a round of golf. 1 1 Quote
Simon Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 56 minutes ago, SCBills said: **** this committee. I hope they have to answer for it … and judging by the INTENSE backlash from AD’s, Chancellors and Politicians, they’re going to have to. When only 4 teams get to play in those meaningful games, there is no, and never will be, a right answer. Quote
4merper4mer Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Simon said: When only 4 teams get to play in those meaningful games, there is no, and never will be, a right answer. You mean 3+ Bama right? Quote
Simon Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: You mean 3+ Bama right? I'm not remotely interested in your weird crusade against the college football program that has consistently had the most talented teams in the country for over a decade. 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 53 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said: Florida State should have got in. Period. 13-0 in a Power 5. Alabama was a LUCKY 4th a 17th "Hail Mary" away from LOSING TO AUBURN. The team that got destroyed by New Mexico State. I get it. Strength of schedule means little to nothing to you and I clearly understand why. Florida State had a rough time against Louisville, who was beat by Kentucky, a middling at best SEC team. In fact, Louisville gave up 38 points to Kentucky iirc. Florida State is not even close to Georgia and/or Alabama. There is just no comparison. Why didn't FSU jump to the SEC? I think it is safe to assume that they know that they would struggle to be a .500 team. I am not saying that Alabama will win the title but if they do, it would not be the first time that they won it from the 4th seed. We will see what happens but at least we really might have been spared another debacle like the trouncing of TCU last season, wouldn't you say? 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SCBills said: UGA is a Top 4 team and everybody knows they are. This is impossible to argue with imo. I think that UGA would wipe the floors with Washington and/or FSU. Texas looks great and I think that Coach Sarkisian is one of the best offensive minds that I have ever seen. I don't know much about Michigan and hope that @YoloinOhio will jump in and tell us more about them. He as always been quite accurate in his posts about the Big 10. Edited December 3, 2023 by Bill from NYC Quote
streetkings01 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I get it. Strength of schedule means little to nothing to you and I clearly understand why. Florida State had a rough time against Louisville, who was beat by Kentucky, a middling at best SEC team. In fact, Louisville gave up 38 points to Kentucky iirc. Florida State is not even close to Georgia and/or Alabama. There is just no comparison. Why didn't FSU jump to the SEC? I think it is safe to assume that they know that they would struggle to be a .500 team. I am not saying that Alabama will win the title but if they do, it would not be the first time that they won it from the 4th seed. We will see what happens but at least we really might have been spared another debacle like the trouncing of TCU last season, wouldn't you say? FSU would do very well in the overrated SEC. Outside of Bama and Georgia which SEC program has contended for the playoffs since it started back in 2013/2014……LSU? Georgia was in a dog fight against a middling Georgia Tech program, Bama barely beat USF, LSU got curb stomped by FSU, Miami beat Texas A&M……yea SEC is definitely this juggernaut of a conference 🙄 Edited December 3, 2023 by streetkings01 1 2 Quote
SCBills Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Simon said: When only 4 teams get to play in those meaningful games, there is no, and never will be, a right answer. Id argue that they went with the worst answer of all available options. 1) the precedent it sets for how teams handle injuries 2) the precedent it sets for what a season means 3) eye test is subjective and FSU’s offense struggled without Travis, but are we apparently ignoring Bama almost losing to Auburn a week ago? 4) UGA is clearly a Top 4 team, yet is .. in the committees eyes .. behind FSU without their QB? 5) They justify Liberty over SMU as G5 rep, when SMU is better now, because Liberty “kept winning” It all came down to money and ESPN making sure the SEC was represented. You can’t tell me that didn’t factor in. It did .. and today was an absolute travesty for the sport. The backlash is entirely warranted. 3 2 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: I get it. Strength of schedule means little to nothing to you and I clearly understand why. Florida State had a rough time against Louisville, who was beat by Kentucky, a middling at best SEC team. In fact, Louisville gave up 38 points to Kentucky iirc. Florida State is not even close to Georgia and/or Alabama. There is just no comparison. Why didn't FSU jump to the SEC? I think it is safe to assume that they know that they would struggle to be a .500 team. I am not saying that Alabama will win the title but if they do, it would not be the first time that they won it from the 4th seed. We will see what happens but at least we really might have been spared another debacle like the trouncing of TCU last season, wouldn't you say? Lol you conveniently left out that TCU won a playoff game while making a case they were unworthy of a spot. That’s not logical. 2 2 Quote
Lionel Hutz Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Buddy Hix said: The “Seminoles” should be commended for taking their cultural appropriation to this level…getting screwed out of something that they fought hard for and was rightfully theirs by a bunch of ignorant Jim Crow types is next level commitment to the bit. And let’s also rejoice for ‘Bama. These rednecks, who couldn’t be bothered to score a 900 on their SATs, care nothing about standard of living and state poverty levels…football is all that matters. I’m happy for them. The Seminole Tribe approves of FSU using their name, unlike the Chiefs that stole FSU's chant and have no connection to any tribe. Quote
FireChans Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: I get it. Strength of schedule means little to nothing to you and I clearly understand why. Florida State had a rough time against Louisville, who was beat by Kentucky, a middling at best SEC team. In fact, Louisville gave up 38 points to Kentucky iirc. Florida State is not even close to Georgia and/or Alabama. There is just no comparison. Why didn't FSU jump to the SEC? I think it is safe to assume that they know that they would struggle to be a .500 team. I am not saying that Alabama will win the title but if they do, it would not be the first time that they won it from the 4th seed. We will see what happens but at least we really might have been spared another debacle like the trouncing of TCU last season, wouldn't you say? TCU beat Michigan last year. Should Georgia have been in? After all, they are clearly in the top 4 and they had a tough schedule and only 1 loss to another playoff team. 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) On 12/3/2023 at 5:03 PM, FireChans said: TCU beat Michigan last year. Should Georgia have been in? After all, they are clearly in the top 4 and they had a tough schedule and only 1 loss to another playoff team. As I said in a previous post, I know little about Michigan. Yolo, Willyville Guy, and many other posters do follow the Big 10 and I hope that they chime in. Your question about UGA is a very good one. I think that Georgia is far superior to Washington. This of course doesn't mean that I am correct. Obviously I am partial to the SEC and lack a great deal of respect for other conferences but yes, UGA is clearly one of the 4 best teams. The above is of course jmo. It is not an all knowing proclamation and I know that the Alabama haters are butt hurt. Still, a few of facts do remain: 1) Georgia won 29 straight games, 2 consecutive national titles, was ranked #1 for most of the season and Alabama defeated them, in Georgia. 2) The last four national titles were won by LSU, Alabama, Georgia, and Georgia. This has to be indicative of something, no? And btw I appreciate the dialogue. Edited December 16, 2023 by Bill from NYC Quote
JMM Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Alabama"s backup quarterback is 5 star Ty Simpson. I hope that he stays with the team next season whereas he really might be better down the road than Milroe. If FSU had a backup like Ty (and played in a decent conference) they would be in instead of Alabama. 1. FSU Qb is a top recruit as well, they discussed this last night. He is a true freshmen starting his first game ever. In that spot. You think Ty would have done better? Stop... 2. ACC had a better record than SEC this year. Make opinions based on actual facts next time 4 hours ago, Simon said: The difference is that Alabama is good enough on both sides of the LOS and at the skill positions to beat good teams with a subpar QB. FSU is not, imo. Can u say for a FACT that FSU would not have won the National Championship? NO. And neither can anyone else. Correct? Therefore based on ALL the criteria they met they should have been given the opportunity to do so. Period. 2 1 Quote
Bill from NYC Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, JMM said: 1. FSU Qb is a top recruit as well, they discussed this last night. He is a true freshmen starting his first game ever. In that spot. You think Ty would have done better? Stop... 2. ACC had a better record than SEC this year. Make opinions based on actual facts next time Can u say for a FACT that FSU would not have won the National Championship? NO. And neither can anyone else. Correct? Therefore based on ALL the criteria they met they should have been given the opportunity to do so. Period. Yeah, he looked great against the really tough Louisville (defense last night who gave up 31 points to Kentucky). And I understand how you are butt hurt by Alabama getting in and I want you to feel better. Still, comparing the ACC to the SEC really is silly. Clemson was great and now even they are just a so-so team. I give you credit however for taking a stand, especially when there are probably only about 6 or 7 college football fans in the world think that the ACC is anywhere close to being almost as good as the SEC but hey; one cannot put a price on originality. 1 1 Quote
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