Sources say ZERO PERCENT chance McD is fired

[Brand J]

24 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:

I disagree about Beane. I have plenty of criticism on some of his picks and moves, but the team he gave McD this year, despite the injuries,  should in no way be 6-6. The losses to the Jets, Pats, Broncos and Eagles is on the coaches only. Beane had zero to do with those embarrassing displays. At minimum we should have 10 wins.

9 or 10 wins minimum, agreed. No way should we be looking up at the Browns, Colts, Broncos, Texans, and Steelers after 12 weeks. The majority of those teams don’t even have a QB. Most would also agree that coming into the season we wouldn’t be looking up at the Dolphins, Jaguars, and Ravens after 12 weeks - unless Josh was injured for a portion of the season. KC, for all their subpar play, will almost always find a way to win in the end. Wish the Bills had that knack. 

[bobobonators]

On 11/30/2023 at 3:13 PM, May Day 10 said:

I believe this a lot more than Florio shooting from the hip.

 

 

I think this team would have to endure a colossal melt-down in the locker room and on the field the final 5 games in order for any coaching change to be considered

I feel the support is warranted. If I remember correctly, heading into this season only one other team had more wins than the Bills since 2019 and that was the Chiefs. That says something both about McD and Beane. 
 

We don’t know the inner circle dynamics and few do. I feel the only way McD would get fired is if there was a complete meltdown beyond just losing 8 games one season. The meltdown would have to be within the locker room as well.

 

 

[Bill from NYC]

13 minutes ago, Doc said:

I always love the "(usually anonymous) sources say..." stuff.  You can usually discount what follows.

Exactly. The question is: How can he NOT be fired if he doesn't win out, which he almost certainly will not.

 

He loses all the big games, and built the team ass backwards other than Josh Allen who he lucked into. 

 

I wish that they would fire him today.

[Mikie2times]

He’s among the most successful regular season coaches of all time with his win%. He’s also becoming one of the most unsuccessful coaches of all time as it relates to regular season winning% and postseason results. We didn’t have success in either area for about 25 years. So I get why some people still feel he should be the guy, but given our history in big games it shouldn't surprise even his biggest supporters why fans are very worried this is a Marty situation. The odds as pointed out by many are actually getting to be pretty favorable that is the case. 

Edited December 2, 2023 by Mikie2times

[BernieBill]

"He turned the franchise around" ... the guy eked out a 9-7 season at his highest possible motivation as a 1st year head coach ... then they drafted Josh Allen.  Josh Allen turned the franchise around, not Sean ******* McDermott.

[Doc]

20 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

Exactly. The question is: How can he NOT be fired if he doesn't win out, which he almost certainly will not.

 

He loses all the big games, and built the team ass backwards other than Josh Allen who he lucked into. 

 

I wish that they would fire him today.

 

I'll give him until the end of the season, to see whether they can win-out and make the playoffs.  Anything less and it's time to say thanks and best of luck.

[reddogblitz]

7 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Why exactly? Josh Allen is the most expensive employee in the entire Pegula empire. You don’t think the guy who’s paying him all that money doesn’t have an open door policy when it comes to his opinion? Or is it just the way the original poster phrased it? 

 

Maybe it's the way the OP put it.  And maybe Terry has an open door policty, we don't know.  If Terry asked Josh what he thinks he should be honest. But to go to the owner and say it's him or, me that would be prima Dona Russell Wilson stuff.  Can't have that.  Aaron Rodgers did that and they traded him. Terry might very well do the same. No player is greater than the team.  I don't think Josh is that way.  Coaching decisions are above his massive pay grade.  If he wants to hire and fire coaches buy his own team.  In the meantime play your very best and have a good attitude and provide leadership for the coach he has which is what he's doing. 

 

Edited December 2, 2023 by reddogblitz

[reddogblitz]

7 hours ago, Negan said:

Sure he's going to keep McDermott over a generational QB.  

 

I've seen a lot of posts in my life on different messages boards, Twitter, family dinners, Facebook, drinking with buddies, but this takes the cake.

 

What kind of cake? I like chocolate with butter cream frosting.

[GoBills808]

33 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Maybe it's the way the OP put it.  And maybe Terry has an open door policty, we don't know.  If Terry asked Josh what he thinks he should be honest. But to go to the owner and say it's him or, me that would be prima Dona Russell Wilson stuff.  Can't have that.  Aaron Rodgers did that and they traded him. Terry might very well do the same. No player is greater than the team.  I don't think Josh is that way.  Coaching decisions are above his massive pay grade.  If he wants to hire and fire coaches buy his own team.  In the meantime play your very best and have a good attitude and provide leadership for the coach he has which is what he's doing. 

 

Interested to know how you define massive pay grade

 

Allen is 9th overall highest paid QB in the league which is a bargain any way you slice it. And the Bills have him at 11th highest cap hit for 2023. 

 

This regime has completely and utterly failed to capitalize on the immense production/salary ratio he's provided

[Buffalo Ballin]

Once again: if we miss the playoffs, McDermott is on the hot seat. We shouldn't care what Terry Pegula said regarding McDermott being safe. He could be lying. Because people change their minds ALL THE TIME. At any given time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gjv]

I don’t think McDermott should be fired.

[oldmanfan]

Only way I see it is if they collapse and lose out, or if the team leaders go to Brandon or Terry and say he’s lost the locker room.

[vincec]

At the end of this season, McDermott will be retained as HC and the following things will happen:

 

1.  McDermott will hand over the DC position to someone else so that he can focus on HC. I wish it would be someone from outside the organization, but it will probably be Eric Washington.

2.  Bills will replace Matthew Smiley as ST coach.

3.  Joe Brady will be hired as full time OC.

 

McDermott back. All new staff from start of this season.

[FLFan]

7 hours ago, Doc said:

I always love the "(usually anonymous) sources say..." stuff.  You can usually discount what follows.

Probably not in this case.  TG is very well connected and a very conscientious reporter.  

49 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Only way I see it is if they collapse and lose out, or if the team leaders go to Brandon or Terry and say he’s lost the locker room.

That might do it.  The only was I see McD being fired as well, and I do not think it is likely. 

[njbuff]

The Bills have one of the very best QB’s in the sport, in a QB driven league, but there is a better chance of the Bills finishing under .500 than making the playoffs.

 

If that’s not a fireable offense, than I don’t know what is.

[Since1981]

He is quite “safe”, until he is not. Not making the playoffs with 17 will be the nail. McD without 17 would have already been fired. Times is up, unless he makes the playoffs. Then it gets weirdly hard to judge, if they make playoff. 

[Rocky Landing]

To my mind, McD's biggest mistake was going with Dorsey as OC in '22, and then sticking with him after such a disappointing end to the season. It really shouldn't have taken this long to see the writing on the wall. 

 

I think Pegula is right not to ax McD, but I do hope he is going to be involved in pressing for a top-tier OC. One Bills Drive is sorely lacking an offensive mind.

[John from Riverside]

9 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Exactly. The question is: How can he NOT be fired if he doesn't win out, which he almost certainly will not.

 

He loses all the big games, and built the team ass backwards other than Josh Allen who he lucked into. 

 

I wish that they would fire him today.

Because there are plenty of reasons why this team lost that are not the coach
 

Whenever you have a huge proportion of your salary, cap, sitting on ir then it’s gonna be very hard to win games

[Richard Noggin]

5 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

What kind of cake? I like chocolate with butter cream frosting.

 

Team cream cheese here.

4 hours ago, vincec said:

At the end of this season, McDermott will be retained as HC and the following things will happen:

 

1.  McDermott will hand over the DC position to someone else so that he can focus on HC. I wish it would be someone from outside the organization, but it will probably be Eric Washington.

2.  Bills will replace Matthew Smiley as ST coach.

3.  Joe Brady will be hired as full time OC.

 

McDermott back. All new staff from start of this season.

 

I like Brady as full-time OC (at minimum). Leaves room to promote him to Assistant Head Coach after next year to squeeze out one more year before he moves on (in best case scenario). Not sure if there is precedent for AHCs on BOTH sides of the ball (if I'm remembering correctly that Washington already got promoted into the AHC void after Frazier's departure)?

[boyst]

11 hours ago, BernieBill said:

"He turned the franchise around" ... the guy eked out a 9-7 season at his highest possible motivation as a 1st year head coach ... then they drafted Josh Allen.  Josh Allen turned the franchise around, not Sean ******* McDermott.

It's like people forget it wasn't belichick and his patriot way. It was the princess Brady and his cheating. 

 

The coach only does so much. And belichick did a hell of a lot more than McDermott