Sources say ZERO PERCENT chance McD is fired

[Bill from NYC]

On 11/30/2023 at 4:22 PM, Gregg said:

Does this mean we are taking a CB or Safety in Rd 1 this draft. 

Yes and trading up for one.

Edited December 1, 2023 by Bill from NYC

[Saxum]

2 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

I remember those drought years when we fired coach, after coach. We finally get a good one now we want to run him out of town lol. I’m really amazed how Mike Tomlin kept his job for so long lol. 

 

Steelers fans have a bit more stability - like their franchise.

1 minute ago, Bill from NYC said:

Yes and trading up fpr one.

 

I see they are listening to your recommendation again.

 

/S

[Augie]

8 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I think the feelings/opinions of the core players would play a big role. 
 

 

 

…and I think the feelings/opinions of the fans (especially the extremists) will play no role whatsoever. As it should be. This is not a time to be making rash, emotional decisions. Now is the time to be looking at the Big Picture. That is what I expect, and why I think McD is back. 

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

Let me ask, what happened to Josh Allen in the first half of the Jacksonville, NY Giants, Bucs, Patriots, Bengals, and Broncos?

 

You know, when the offense couldn't get going...couldn't run, couldn't pass, and was falling on its face against some bad teams. The Bills were lucky that the refs didn't call penalties at the end of the Giants, and Bucs games or Buffalo just might be 4-8 right now. 

 

Wasn't Josh Allen the QB in those losses to Jacksonville 20-25? New England 25-29? Cincinnati 20-24? Denver 22-24? 

 

Yet, suddenly scores 32 points against one of the best defenses in the NFL. Takes the NFC Camps to OT in a 34-37 loss. 

 

Talk to Ken Dorsey...who is now unemployed. 

A very similar analogy can be made about the defensive failures except the DC hasn’t been fired yet…, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

 

(some sarcasm included)

[Nihilarian]

17 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

A very similar analogy can be made about the defensive failures except the DC hasn’t been fired yet…, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

 

(some sarcasm included)

Now imagine the Buffalo offense without Cook, without Allen, without Diggs as the defense lost their 3 best players in Milano, Tre White, and DaQuan Jones along with Von Miller still not 100%.

 

What would that Buffalo offense look like even if they still had Allen but lost Kincade? That Buffalo defense is still pretty darn good even with all the injuries to star players.

[RyanC883]

3 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

I remember those drought years when we fired coach, after coach. We finally get a good one now we want to run him out of town lol. I’m really amazed how Mike Tomlin kept his job for so long lol. 

 

might be the Lombardi's that Tomlin has, and the lack of late game meltdowns.  

 

there is also a case for Tomlin being fired, many Steeler fans are sick of making the playoffs and losing.  (haven't won a playoff game since 2017).  He is managing a great season this year with a "game manager" at QB.  

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

…and I think the feelings/opinions of the fans (especially the extremists) will play no role whatsoever. As it should be. This is not a time to be making rash, emotional decisions. Now is the time to be looking at the Big Picture. That is what I expect, and why I think McD is back. 

 

Agreed.  But the big picture is that McD has proven to be a coach who does not learn from past mistakes, blames others, and continues to meltdown in big moments year over year.  Not sure why people expect that to change.  What got the Bills here won't get them to where they want to go.  

3 hours ago, Billsflyer12 said:

I looks more and more like the Pegulas are more committed to stability and sustainability then to winning a Super Bowl.

 

sure is what it seems like.  or Pegs is sick and enjoys losing close games that we should have won ?  

[Don Otreply]

52 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Now imagine the Buffalo offense without Cook, without Allen, without Diggs as the defense lost their 3 best players in Milano, Tre White, and DaQuan Jones along with Von Miller still not 100%.

 

What would that Buffalo offense look like even if they still had Allen but lost Kincade? That Buffalo defense is still pretty darn good even with all the injuries to star players.

Pretty darn good? Yes, except in the fourth quarter of many close games this season, don’t get me wrong missing “three top players “ doesn’t help, but the end results are what they are, a lot of that falls on the DC to be creative and come up with a work around, like not lining up five to eight yards off the line of scrimmage and getting his azs handed to him repeatedly,  that’s not on the player, it’s on the coach, jmo. 
 

GO BILLS!!!

[LABILLBACKER]

On 11/30/2023 at 1:30 PM, HumbleAndHungry said:

What do Marv and Sean both have in common?  They both had Elite QB play.  If Chan Gailey had Josh Allen we'd be saying the same thing about him.  The QB that one inherits plays such a huge role in a coaches "success"

Chan Gailey wouldn't have allocated 65% of his draft resources to defense.  And this ridiculous argument that losing 3 top defensive players affected Sean's late game playcalling mistakes is hilarious. 

[34-78-83]

4 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:

I remember those drought years when we fired coach, after coach. We finally get a good one now we want to run him out of town lol. I’m really amazed how Mike Tomlin kept his job for so long lol. 

Its because the Steelers org doesn't listen to their fans or the outside opinion. Make no mistake though, there's a large vocal group of them on the internet that have wanted Tomlin gone for years. It's no different than here. The same types of groups existed when Bill Cowher was the coach. Its also the same types of folks that think Marty Shotenheimer sucked as a coach, even though truly he never had the QB to get it done, and when he almost did (old version of Joe Montana), the Bills team full of hall of famers, including Kelly the QB had something to say about it. Many of the coaching greats in the game have 0 to 1 Super Bowl Victory, and many times it was because there was an even greater team ahead of them in their conference. There were some great Cowboy teams that got left out of the Superbowl because the Niners existed, and the exact opposite also happened.

[Simon]

1 minute ago, 34-78-83 said:

The same types of groups existed when Bill Cowher was the coach.

 

I was one of those.

I thought keeping him around way too long while he mismanaged the best roster in the league probably cost them multiple titles.

[Man with No Name]

2 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Steelers fans have a bit more stability - like their franchise.

 

I see they are listening to your recommendation again.

 

/S

The Steelers are not wasting a generational talent with Mike Tomlin. 

If we were doing what we are doing now with Tyrod Taylor, Geno Smith or Mitch Trubisky, there would not be any complaining. 

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

That Buffalo defense is still pretty darn good even with all the injuries to star players.

The odd thing about the defense is that they can play very well all game, but as soon as you need 1 critical stop, with the game on the line, they will fold. 

That's the most frustrating part, in my opinion. The injuries don't keep them from playing like a top 10 defense for 58 minutes. Just those last 2 minutes.

[HappyDays]

3 hours ago, Nihilarian said:

Let me ask, what happened to Josh Allen in the first half of the Jacksonville, NY Giants, Bucs, Patriots, Bengals, and Broncos?

 

You know, when the offense couldn't get going...couldn't run, couldn't pass, and was falling on its face against some bad teams. The Bills were lucky that the refs didn't call penalties at the end of the Giants, and Bucs games or Buffalo just might be 4-8 right now. 

 

Wasn't Josh Allen the QB in those losses to Jacksonville 20-25? New England 25-29? Cincinnati 20-24? Denver 22-24? 

 

Yet, suddenly scores 32 points against one of the best defenses in the NFL. Takes the NFC Camps to OT in a 34-37 loss. 

 

Talk to Ken Dorsey...who is now unemployed. 

 

Assuming no one is fired and the offense looks elite with Joe Brady as OC next year, he will be gone in 2025. Then it will be up to McDermott to hire his replacement. The same guy that hired Ken Dorsey and lucked into Joe Brady (Davis Webb was his first choice for QB coach) will have to keep replacing OCs throughout Josh Allen's career. You feel good about that?

[SoCal Deek]

20 minutes ago, Einstein said:

The odd thing about the defense is that they can play very well all game, but as soon as you need 1 critical stop, with the game on the line, they will fold. 

That's the most frustrating part, in my opinion. The injuries don't keep them from playing like a top 10 defense for 58 minutes. Just those last 2 minutes.

It’s the COACH that keeps them from playing that way. This isn’t all that complicated! 

[GunnerBill]

24 minutes ago, Einstein said:

The odd thing about the defense is that they can play very well all game, but as soon as you need 1 critical stop, with the game on the line, they will fold. 

That's the most frustrating part, in my opinion. The injuries don't keep them from playing like a top 10 defense for 58 minutes. Just those last 2 minutes.

 

Sean McDermott has not done a good job as DC. That to me is beyond doubt.

[AKC]

It’s a common football dilemma. McDermott is the Dak Prescott of NFL coaching. Some weeks you believe and others not so much but there are plenty of fair arguments to go around.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Assuming no one is fired and the offense looks elite with Joe Brady as OC next year, he will be gone in 2025. Then it will be up to McDermott to hire his replacement. The same guy that hired Ken Dorsey and lucked into Joe Brady (Davis Webb was his first choice for QB coach) will have to keep replacing OCs throughout Josh Allen's career. You feel good about that?

 

You got that right!!! He doesn't have Sam Darnold as his QB this go around... I can't imagine who he would have chosen if Davis Webb had been in place instead who didn't have any experience at ALL as OC.

[Green Lightning]

McD is going to continue to piss away meaningful games with bizarre late game collapses.  It's just what he does. In crunch time you couldn't pull a credit card from between his butt cheeks with a tractor. 13 seconds defines him. He's competitive but not a closer. And it looks like we get to see this movie again all next year.

[34-78-83]

2 hours ago, Simon said:

 

I was one of those.

I thought keeping him around way too long while he mismanaged the best roster in the league probably cost them multiple titles.

Thinking Kordel Stewart was a solution at QB was fun though!

[Scott7975]

7 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

 

McDermott has had seven years to "fix his blind spots". Seven years is a long-ass time in the NFL. A handful of seasons with an elite quarterback and failing to reach the Super Bowl is not indicative of a "great coach".

 

If he was a great coach we would have at least one Super Bowl ring and likely multiple appearances. 

 

He's not a great coach. Not even close.

 

I agree but tbf, Harbaugh has the same amount of time with a supposed elite qb in Lamar and has 1 playoff win.