The bleak cap situation going forward

[BaaadThingsMan]

Cap gymnastics are nothing new

[gobills1212]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Locked On Bills goes over next year's cap situation in the latest episode. Doing the easy, obvious restructures and moves gets the Bills to 20+ million in cap space. They can easily get more than that with other moves, including extensions and cuts.

 

The Bills are fine. Beane knows what he is doing.

 

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0MT1OvOBUBgbmk6J5iYA6D?si=hoRtIDpVSVyU1qrRTzUbeQ

I was going to say... after watching that and coming here to read this it seems a bit overblown. Obviously things can always be pushed so you can function, but this moreso seems like a team that knows what its doing and has it self set up just fine.

[transplantbillsfan]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Locked On Bills goes over next year's cap situation in the latest episode. Doing the easy, obvious restructures and moves gets the Bills to 20+ million in cap space. They can easily get more than that with other moves, including extensions and cuts.

 

The Bills are fine. Beane knows what he is doing.

 

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0MT1OvOBUBgbmk6J5iYA6D?si=hoRtIDpVSVyU1qrRTzUbeQ

 

It's actually courtesy of Greg Thompsett. 

 

Everyone in this thread go listen to the Greg Thompsett sports show from last week and you won't feel so bad.

 

One thng he reveals is that a huge reason our CAP next year is so high is that we have 44 players under contract, which is way more than most of the NFL.

[AlfaBill]

12 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:

I was going to say... after watching that and coming here to read this it seems a bit overblown. Obviously things can always be pushed so you can function, but this moreso seems like a team that knows what its doing and has it self set up just fine.

Nah the posters here know everything. 
lol. I’d bet most can’t balance their budgets 

[iinii]

On 11/30/2023 at 1:27 PM, Low Positive said:

It's because he drafts guys with elite traits who sometimes lack college production/coaching. That way he gets draft value, but they take longer to develop. Teams like the Eagles draft guys from Alabama and Georgia who have played at the highest level and are ready for big games in their first season. 

Bingo! Getting players up to speed gets expensive. 

[SCBills]

On 12/1/2023 at 12:50 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

But they won't ever let Josh play on a stupid hit. They will extend him and extend him and kick the can and kick the can. And take the pain the year he retires. Like the Saints did with Drew Bees.

Yup.   Just start drafting developmental QB’s towards the end so you have a guy on a rookie deal to play the year after Allen retires while eating the cap hit we’ve kicked down the road. 

[John from Riverside]

On 12/1/2023 at 3:51 AM, Airseven said:

The next GM is going to love all these restructured contracts.

Well, since Brandon isn’t going anywhere, it will be his mess to figure out

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

It's actually courtesy of Greg Thompsett. 

 

Everyone in this thread go listen to the Greg Thompsett sports show from last week and you won't feel so bad.

 

One thng he reveals is that a huge reason our CAP next year is so high is that we have 44 players under contract, which is way more than most of the NFL.

One thing is for sure as we go along. McDermott is going to have to start playing more of his draft class as we continue to kick the can down the road on Josh Allen‘s contract.
 

Next year is not the disaster that people are making it out to be

[Pete]

On 11/30/2023 at 1:29 PM, Einstein said:

We were discussing this in the Von Miller thread, but thought maybe it wasn't wise to continue cluttering that thread with cap talk. 

We are currently $42 million over the cap for next season. That number assumes the NFL increases the salary cap increases, from the current cap of $224.8M to $243.9M (technically we are about $62 million over at the moment), plus rollover.



Getting under the cap

If we release Dion Dawkins, Tre White, Taron Johnson, Mitch Morse, Jordan Poyer, Deonte Harty, and Nyheim Hines, we can get down to almost $0 (-413,780) cap space.

Obviously this doesn't include restructures yet. But we can't just endlessly keep kicking the can down the road.

 

If we do NOT release one of those starters, you can add the following to our cap negative by this amount:

Keeping Dawkins: Add $4.8M to cap negative.
Keeping White: Add $6.2M to cap negative.
Keeping Taron: Add $7.7M to cap negative.
Keeping Morse: Add $8.5M to cap negative.
Keeping Poyer: Add $5.5M to cap negative.

Key players that will have to be re-signed or let walk 

Micah Hyde: Contract expires this offseason.
Daquan Jones: Contract expires this offseason.

Leonard Floyd: Contract expires this offseason.

Summary

 

We are $42M over the estimated 2024 cap, with Jones, Floyd and Hyde contract expiring. We will need a mixture of releasing starters, and re-structuring current deals, in order to get enough cap to draft players.

We are likely going to have to restructure Allen, and then replace a lot of starters with very little money.

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lmao go watch Joe Marino's cap episode.  The Bills have 44 players on 2024 roster, we are returning all of our key pieces, there are many ways to easily create cap space, and we have 9 draft picks, loaded with WRs.  Buffalo is about to reload with much higher caliber skill players.  IMO the Bills are setup for great success the next 5 years, and better positioned than most every other team going forward.

Edited December 5, 2023 by Pete

[DCofNC]

10 hours ago, iinii said:

Bingo! Getting players up to speed gets expensive. 

Yeah, I’d hate to be the Eagles, drafting all those stupid top prospects and winning right out of the gate.  Has to be a rough life, especially being able to do it with their own draft spots being lower than the Bills. 

4 hours ago, Pete said:

lmao go watch Joe Marino's cap episode.  The Bills have 44 players on 2024 roster, we are returning all of our key pieces, there are many ways to easily create cap space, and we have 9 draft picks, loaded with WRs.  Buffalo is about to reload with much higher caliber skill players.  IMO the Bills are setup for great success the next 5 years, and better positioned than most every other team going forward.

You sir, are what others call a “Homer”. 

9 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

Well, since Brandon isn’t going anywhere, it will be his mess to figure out

One thing is for sure as we go along. McDermott is going to have to start playing more of his draft class as we continue to kick the can down the road on Josh Allen‘s contract.
 

Next year is not the disaster that people are making it out to be

Next year NEEDS to be the reset year, the team is old and not very talented in many key spaces, not to mention it’s built from a defensive posture, not an offensive one.  I don’t mean assets are focused on the D (though they are), the team is built to stop other teams and try to keep up with some of the high fliers, the problem is, you can’t do both without great drafting.  The team has no identity, which means they won’t BEAT you with Defense and they might outscore you with an under tooled O.    They need to go all in on Allen, build the line, which gives you a running game, and get him some weapons.  Then if you HAPPEN to be able to draft well, the D ends up better than you plan.  It’s basically what Philly has.