Von Miller faces arrest in domestic violence case in Dallas

[C.Biscuit97]

Well thank god Von gets to play this week!!!

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

Everybody and their Mother can plainly see this, so what are the brain trust at OBD & down in south Florida (Terry Pegula) waiting for?! It's very puzzling.

You obviously never played a team sport at a high level and/or had to manage a locker room. 
 

It’s not as simple as “make Von inactive” in the wake of his allegations.  
 

Unless you want Buffalo to become a pariah organization that players don’t trust.  

[Bob Jones]

26 minutes ago, boyst said:

it's not a fact until proven so. it's an accusation until that point.

You and I are usually pretty much on the same wavelength, but I'm confounded here.

 

That she called 911 and asked for the cops to come and help her is a stone cold fact, not an accusation. Of course, that call was recorded.

 

That the initial cops on the scene (who got there shortly after she called 911) saw a woman in distress with visible bruises on her body is another stone cold fact.

 

And like I said above, reportedly she made an audio or video recording of the incident. I have not seen the police report, but if that's in there, then it's another stone cold fact of the situation (which may help or hurt VM; we don’t know yet).

 

I guess your "it's only an accusation" is referring to whether or not VM was the guy who caused her to call 911 for help, or the guy who caused the bruises on her body? So, unless she injured herself, or someone else was there in the apt and that person beat her....both of which are highly unlikely, especially when you consider VM's past history of DV....he's a wife beater, end of story. Bench him, suspend him, and find a good way to get rid of him ASAP. What he did is about a million times worse than what Matt A. was accused of, and as we found out, Matt A. did not do.

[Mango]

16 minutes ago, SCBills said:

You obviously never played a team sport at a high level and/or had to manage a locker room. 
 

It’s not as simple as “make Von inactive” in the wake of his allegations.  
 

Unless you want Buffalo to become a pariah organization that players don’t trust.  

I have done both at a very high level and I would bench Von and not lose any sleep over it. 

[boyst]

11 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

You and I are usually pretty much on the same wavelength, but I'm confounded here.

 

That she called 911 and asked for the cops to come and help her is a stone cold fact, not an accusation. Of course, that call was recorded.

 

That the initial cops on the scene (who got there shortly after she called 911) saw a woman in distress with visible bruises on her body is another stone cold fact.

 

And like I said above, reportedly she made an audio or video recording of the incident. I have not seen the police report, but if that's in there, then it's another stone cold fact of the situation (which may help or hurt VM; we don’t know yet).

 

I guess your "it's only an accusation" is referring to whether or not VM was the guy who caused her to call 911 for help, or the guy who caused the bruises on her body? So, unless she injured herself, or someone else was there in the apt and that person beat her....both of which are highly unlikely, especially when you consider VM's past history of DV....he's a wife beater, end of story. Bench him, suspend him, and find a good way to get rid of him ASAP. What he did is about a million times worse than what Matt A. was accused of, and as we found out, Matt A. did not do.

could it have been some bedroom fun time results from the night before? could it be she  fell in the shower? we know less than we know.

 

do i think von miller is a good guy? i don't have much to base it on or care to judge. would i let him hang out with my wife or family? no.

 

the only reason i want him gone is because like someone else said. i cheer for this team because of it the team i cheer for. i don't care who plays as long as they play well enough to justify their role. he doesn't. he has always been a character i have not liked much.

 

and regarding his past. maybe he choses unstable women who fly off the handle and get physical with him and all he can do is physically get them away/off of him. these women call 911 and cause drama. maybe it's just he is a bad judge of character?

 

i just can't buy into getting ahead of due process but think this guy is a attention hoor clowny diva.

[HappyDays]

17 minutes ago, Mango said:

I have done both at a very high level and I would bench Von and not lose any sleep over it. 

 

This is not an excuse for the Bills, but every team in the league would handle this situation the exact same way they have. That's the sad reality.

[Wayne Arnold]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

This is not an excuse for the Bills, but every team in the league would handle this situation the exact same way they have. That's the sad reality.

 

You're likely very right.

 

But somehow I'm pretty shocked that Von is still on the team this week. I assumed he was done for the season and then probably his career.

[Einstein's Dog]

Reading through this thread i have now seen multiple posts saying Beane's "Out of Character" comment was a mistake to say, and False.  Do you posters really think you have more information to go on than Beane?   Beane has spent some time with Von.   It comes across as arrogant to me when posters think they have greater insight into Von's character than Beane.

 

And if Beane feels it's "Out of Character" for Von, I'm glad Beane is saying it.  It's not a mistake, and I bet it's much appreciated by Von and others in the locker room.  If McDermott doesn't know Von very well, then McD's more reserved response is appropriate.

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Bob Jones said:

You and I are usually pretty much on the same wavelength, but I'm confounded here.

 

That she called 911 and asked for the cops to come and help her is a stone cold fact, not an accusation. Of course, that call was recorded.

 

That the initial cops on the scene (who got there shortly after she called 911) saw a woman in distress with visible bruises on her body is another stone cold fact.

 

And like I said above, reportedly she made an audio or video recording of the incident. I have not seen the police report, but if that's in there, then it's another stone cold fact of the situation (which may help or hurt VM; we don’t know yet).

 

I guess your "it's only an accusation" is referring to whether or not VM was the guy who caused her to call 911 for help, or the guy who caused the bruises on her body? So, unless she injured herself, or someone else was there in the apt and that person beat her....both of which are highly unlikely, especially when you consider VM's past history of DV....he's a wife beater, end of story. Bench him, suspend him, and find a good way to get rid of him ASAP. What he did is about a million times worse than what Matt A. was accused of, and as we found out, Matt A. did not do.

what he did was a million times worse than gang rape? Even if Von did do that, I don’t think that is true. End of story is not true.  You should know that from the Matt A. case alone.
 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Scott7975

[Starr Almighty]

59 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

You and I are usually pretty much on the same wavelength, but I'm confounded here.

 

That she called 911 and asked for the cops to come and help her is a stone cold fact, not an accusation. Of course, that call was recorded.

 

That the initial cops on the scene (who got there shortly after she called 911) saw a woman in distress with visible bruises on her body is another stone cold fact.

 

And like I said above, reportedly she made an audio or video recording of the incident. I have not seen the police report, but if that's in there, then it's another stone cold fact of the situation (which may help or hurt VM; we don’t know yet).

 

I guess your "it's only an accusation" is referring to whether or not VM was the guy who caused her to call 911 for help, or the guy who caused the bruises on her body? So, unless she injured herself, or someone else was there in the apt and that person beat her....both of which are highly unlikely, especially when you consider VM's past history of DV....he's a wife beater, end of story. Bench him, suspend him, and find a good way to get rid of him ASAP. What he did is about a million times worse than what Matt A. was accused of, and as we found out, Matt A. did not do.

So you rather raping a child over hitting an adult woman. I think they are both wrong but feel that the rape is way worse.

[Boatdrinks]

1 hour ago, TBBills Fan said:

Von gonna be smacking the Chiefs around on Sunday like its his baby momma

That would be a first this season. Miller should sit , if just based on his play alone. 

[Mango]

25 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Reading through this thread i have now seen multiple posts saying Beane's "Out of Character" comment was a mistake to say, and False.  Do you posters really think you have more information to go on than Beane?   Beane has spent some time with Von.   It comes across as arrogant to me when posters think they have greater insight into Von's character than Beane.

 

And if Beane feels it's "Out of Character" for Von, I'm glad Beane is saying it.  It's not a mistake, and I bet it's much appreciated by Von and others in the locker room.  If McDermott doesn't know Von very well, then McD's more reserved response is appropriate.

 

It isn't arrogance. It is an internet sports message board. The entire purpose of this place is to question the "professionals'. 

Also we have all worked with, known somebody, or knew somebody who knew somebody who pulled the wool over the eyes of everybody around them only to someday show their true character. Nobody anywhere, in any role, is infallible in talent/character identification. 

For reference here is a quote from Rick Spiellman after knowing Adrian Peterson for 8 years, after seeing pictures of what he did to his 4 year old boy with a stick.  6 years later AP was so abusive to his wife on an airplane they had to land it early and escort him off in handcuffs. He was charged with yet another felony. 
 

Quote

“I'll just stick by with what I said. I know that Adrian is a good person, just being around him. I know he's done a lot of good in this community. What he did – he just came out and said he made a mistake. As Zim had stated earlier, he has to get all that in order and then we'll proceed from there.”

 

https://www.startribune.com/spielman-defends-petersons-character-wants-his-return-but-cant-guarantee-it/288575771/

 

Just to be clear, Adrian Peterson is a reprehensible, no good, terrible human being who deserves absolutely nothing. He should have been banished for eterinity after what he did to his kid. But hey...Rick said he was a good guy and he knew him for how long? Technically he was never actually found "guilty" of anything since he pleaded no contest. Amirite? 

 

Edited December 6, 2023 by Mango

[Boatdrinks]

7 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

So you rather raping a child over hitting an adult woman. I think they are both wrong but feel that the rape is way worse.

They’re both reprehensible acts. 

[WotAGuy]

1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:

They’re both reprehensible acts. 

Maybe Schoop and the Bulldog will have a Reprehensible Acts draft!

[Boatdrinks]

Just now, WotAGuy said:

Maybe Schoop and the Bulldog will have a Reprehensible Acts draft!

Hahahahaha, it wouldn’t surprise me. 

[chongli]

1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said:

At the least, this is the perfect excuse to plaster Von to the inactive list. Guy is a detriment to the team at his current level of play. 

 

Not sure if you can make someone of Von's level and reputation inactive. It would be like benching LeBron James, sort of. Besides, he might be angry this week and have something to prove. He'll be motivated. We need him for KC. Until the NFL suspends him at least, which they haven't done.

Edited December 6, 2023 by chongli

[Beast]

5 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

Not sure if you can make someone of Von's level and reputation inactive. It would be like benching LeBron James, sort of. Besides, he might be angry this week and have something to prove. He'll be motivated. We need him for KC. Until the NFL suspends him at least, which they haven't done.

Or, his mind may be elsewhere and he is even more useless than he has been since coming back.

 

I wish he’d just be sent home.

Edited December 6, 2023 by Beast

[Fallser]

Make him a healthy scratch. This game is tough enough without having that distraction. 

[Returntoglory]

19 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

Not sure if you can make someone of Von's level and reputation inactive. It would be like benching LeBron James, sort of. Besides, he might be angry this week and have something to prove. He'll be motivated. We need him for KC. Until the NFL suspends him at least, which they haven't done.

Or he may "re-injure" himself to bypass any potential punishment or voiding of contract 🤔

[balln]

1 minute ago, Fallser said:

Make him a healthy scratch. This game is tough enough without having that distraction. 

If he’s cleared of everything. No charges no nothing. Then you look bad as an organization for presuming guilt and paying him to sit on sideline when he’s “innocent.”

 

it’s a no win position for bills honestly. It happens to all the teams.