Von Miller faces arrest in domestic violence case in Dallas

[Mark Vader]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

As the usual TBD suspects get their pitchforks and torches ready to go after yet another woman, I'll quote another reply I saw elsewhere that best articulates a good perspective to keep here...

 

"Its worth putting aside some disbelief for a moment to also think about how abusive relationships work. As a woman, particularly a pregnant one who is probably feeling extra vulnerable, there is always a lot of pressure to comply, or not report, or to smooth things over to avoid futher conflict and violence.

 

Imagine you have just seen a man the size of Von Miller angry enough to strike you, he is thousands of times richer and more powerful than you, more or less your entire well being relies on him at this point, and he or his lawyers just told you in very unpleasant terms your call to the police may have just cost him tens of millions of dollars in guaranteed money. Money that would have gone to you and your child, but maybe more scary money that the father of your child who already assaulted you now feels like you cost him.

 

Is this a highly toxic relationship? Probably. But please don't underestimate the pressure to capitulate in a situation like this, and try and have a little grace in your heart for this likely very scared and confused woman."

What I find very disturbing are all of the gross comments and tasteless jokes coming from everyone on this board regarding both people about this situation.

[uticaclub]

Just now, Mark Vader said:

What I find very disturbing are all of the gross comments and tasteless jokes coming from everyone on this board regarding both people about this situation.

First day on the internet?

[Mark Vader]

5 minutes ago, uticaclub said:

First day on the internet?

Jocularity, jocularity

[C.Biscuit97]

44 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

CB, @Bob Jones posted facts in the post above yours that seem pretty "full" to me. Von choked her, she bruised up, and as I said in an earlier post, women's bruises get worse on the following day. They also appear to have at least some controversial history. 

 

I am not against due process. Not at all  but I feel OK about judging Miller as a scumbag with fading skills. It would be nice to cut him and not get hurt so much by the salary cap hit.

At the absolute least, he is guilty of being in a very terrible situation that both should get out of, 

 

and the bills should be able to get out of his contract. Might be the worst one in the history of this team and that’s saying something. 

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

At the absolute least, he is guilty of being in a very terrible situation that both should get out of, 

 

and the bills should be able to get out of his contract. Might be the worst one in the history of this team and that’s saying something. 

 

I think this is like the 3rd incident with him and DV....he's been in these situations before.  Ugh, it really doesn't look good now but we have to wait until the facts come out.

 

Von took a selfie with my son and I last year and signed our poster board....he was so kind.  I hate having to think this about him now. 

[TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th]

Hypothetical Question:

 

Let's say von miller approached his GF and said "hey can you recant what you said... I'll give you a million dollars" 

 

Can the bills approach the GF and counter ? "Hey we will give you $5 million ! To keep your initial story and press charges"

 

I think paying $5 million would be a great deal to get vons contract off the books 🤷‍♂️ 

[TheFunPolice]

If you're someone who is upset about people "rushing to judgement" about Miller I have 3 simple questions:

 

1. How did the police become involved in a "no big deal" run of the mill argument between an NFL player and his pregnant girlfriend?

 

2. Related to #1, what is the innocent explanation for a 911 domestic violence call where police noted physical evidence and issued an arrest warrant?

 

3. How likely do you think it is that this is the FIRST and LAST time something like this happened/will happen in that relationship? They were apparently arguing over a trip for her birthday. 

 

Having spirited, intense, even angry and loud arguments is not a crime and doesn't make you a bad person. But when it gets physical it crosses a line.

Edited December 1, 2023 by TheFunPolice

[1onemangang7]

Wonder if he had the Gold leather suit on.

[stevestojan]

2 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Wonder if he had the Gold leather suit on.

Diggs should be pissed too since that commercial has to get pulled now. 

[Gary Marangi]

20 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

Jocularity, jocularity

 

[Dirtyd415]

5 minutes ago, TrentEdwardsCheckDownOn4th said:

Hypothetical Question:

 

Let's say von miller approached his GF and said "hey can you recant what you said... I'll give you a million dollars" 

 

Can the bills approach the GF and counter ? "Hey we will give you $5 million ! To keep your initial story and press charges"

 

I think paying $5 million would be a great deal to get vons contract off the books 🤷‍♂️ 

[julian]

2 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

If she doesn’t press charges, the case gets dropped and he very likely isn’t suspended under the NFLs PCP. 
 

This all shouldn’t stop the Bills from doing a thorough investigation into these allegations and eating the dead cap if it comes to that. 
 

Some things are more important than football, I don’t want ANY woman beaters on this team, dead cap be damned. 

“Birthing person beaters”

let’s not become abusive ourselves with outdated non inclusive language.

[Yobogoya!]

2 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

If you're someone who is upset about people "rushing to judgement" about Miller I have 3 simple questions:

 

1. How did the police become involved in a "no big deal" run of the mill argument between an NFL player and his pregnant girlfriend?

 

2. Related to #1, what is the innocent explanation for a 911 domestic violence call where police noted physical evidence and issued an arrest warrant?

 

3. How likely do you think it is that this is the FIRST and LAST time something like this happened/will happen in that relationship? They were apparently arguing over a trip for her birthday. 

 

Having spirited, intense, even angry and loud arguments is not a crime and doesn't make you a bad person. But when it gets physical it crosses a line.

 

I think a lot of people are overlooking the possibility she put hands on him first / as well. 

 

It's interesting that she phrased her response as "nobody assaulted anybody" and it's also interesting to me that he left the house. When a woman becomes physical against a man in these situations, often times he'll do what he can to restrain her/ get away and then his only real choice is to leave the situation because it's far easier for the man to do more serious damage and see much harsher ramifications. 

 

Not that it isn't also possible Miller is just a dirtbag. 

 

But considering the phrasing she used and the quick recanting, this situation seems just as plausible to be two toxic people who bring out the worst in each other as it is a guy who manipulates and controls his woman through fear and abuse. Gotta wait for more info and to see how it all plays out. 

[BillnutinHouston]

42 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said:

Another brilliant Beane head move...keep rolling your eyes maybe you'll find your brain. Why does Buffalo have to be the rejuvenation/retirement home where the guy can still be revered in greatness? A cast off cause he was a shell of himself after a productive career. I'll tell you why, cause Beane tries to appease fans instead of winning.

 

Show me where you said all this the day after the trade.  

[1onemangang7]

7 minutes ago, stevestojan said:

Diggs should be pissed too since that commercial has to get pulled now. 

And Beane lost his right hand man? He was teaching him how to build a superbowl roster 🤣

1 minute ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

Show me where you said all this the day after the trade.  

I might be able to find it. I had to change my moniker from back then

[PBF81]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Who cares what other teams do?  I care.  You really do want to be the only team that practices on bye weeks.  The players fought hard in the last CBA to have practice and contact reduced, you know, especially since another game was added in the regular season the last few years.  But lets punish our players for being 6-6 and tell them they have to stay and practice on their bye week like their a 1980's high school football team.

Buffalo will surely be desired destination for decent FA's.  

 

Well yeah, I'm not for doing what Chicago, Carolina, Arizona and other losing teams are doing.  Teams that are playing better than we are playing better than we are.  

 

We can go back and forth on this, but no, I don't see any reason for a full week off.  It's beyond clear that team needs more time in film study, and/or someone to do a better job of leading that training.  They could have spent a couple of extra days doing this.  

It's not as if this is the '60s and these guys make what many readers do and have to get regular jobs in the offeasons.   They make quite often insane amounts of money, at worst incredibly handsome livings.  Gabe Davis makes about $1M/year plus incentives/accelerators.  How many posters here do you think make $1M+ per year?  And we're told he sucks and is one of the primary reasons for our underachievement.    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯   ... and for anyone that actually believes that.  

 

I do know that I'd like to see us stop underachieving and being so inconsistent.  

 

Which team in the AFC has better talent than we do on offense?   

 

I don't see one, but help me out.  

 

If we weren't on par with teams like the Broncos (which we lost to), the Raiders, or Texans looking in, then maybe my perspective would be different.  

 

I'm grasping at why TF this team isn't 10-2 or even 11-1 given the gimme schedule that we've had for the most part, instead of 6-6 and hoping to run the table simply to secure the 7th seed.  

 

 

Edited December 1, 2023 by PBF81

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said:

 

I think a lot of people are overlooking the possibility she put hands on him first / as well. 

 

It's interesting that she phrased her response as "nobody assaulted anybody" and it's also interesting to me that he left the house. When a woman becomes physical against a man in these situations, often times he'll do what he can to restrain her/ get away and then his only real choice is to leave the situation because it's far easier for the man to do more serious damage and see much harsher ramifications. 

 

Not that it isn't also possible Miller is just a dirtbag. 

 

But considering the phrasing she used and the quick recanting, this situation seems just as plausible to be two toxic people who bring out the worst in each other as it is a guy who manipulates and controls his woman through fear and abuse. Gotta wait for more info and to see how it all plays out. 

No one is wanting to be the person who lays out that hypothetical, but it’s absolutely plausible. 
 

And as you allude to, Von could also just be a woman beater. 
 

But if a woman attacks you, and you restrain her/push her off you.. she could absolutely bruise, trip, fall etc.. 

 

It doesn’t sound like there were any allegations that he hit her.  So we’re left to decipher injuries concurrent with applying pressure and shoving someone. 
 

Of course she also gave a statement, of which it seems she’s disavowing.. so I’m just speaking about her actual injuries in a vacuum. 

[PBF81]

2 hours ago, JohnNord said:

It’s funny how the narrative is that signing Von was a terrible move.  Everyone was so excited when they made the move and into the season it seemed to pay off. 

 

Forums do a lot of thinking with their ***** when signings like this are made.  

 

 

2 hours ago, JohnNord said:

Now since we lost Von Miller and he’s struggled to recover this season, everyone is saying what a bad deal it’s been.  And for the most part it has but it’s more of a result of injuries than anything else

 

His signing was an enormous risk to begin with, and the reason for Beane having to sign him was because at that time and after four of his drafts prior to that, he was unsuccessful at securing an impact edge-rusher for us.  

 

Anyone thinking that it was a stupid and far too risky signing was chastised, which supports your first statement replied to above.  

 

At the end of the day, Beane took an enormous risk to overcome his poor draft production.  He's getting quite a pass on that acquisition.  

 

Either way, that ridiculous risk has played out, and that was far from a reach in terms of occurring, between injury and age diminishment, and the performance part of that deal has not worked out, nearly at all except for 10 games.  

 

Given how much money he's gotten, that's an absurd amount of money per game.  

 

It's highly questionable as to why he deserved a week off.  

 

 

 

[Mister Defense]

The Bills should just pay her more than Miller did, 5 million?, to get her to follow through and press charges.

 

That could be a great investment, well worth it!

 

Dead weight now, but one of the highest paid defensive players in the league.

[Nextmanup]

28 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

If you're someone who is upset about people "rushing to judgement" about Miller I have 3 simple questions:

 

1. How did the police become involved in a "no big deal" run of the mill argument between an NFL player and his pregnant girlfriend?

 

2. Related to #1, what is the innocent explanation for a 911 domestic violence call where police noted physical evidence and issued an arrest warrant?

 

3. How likely do you think it is that this is the FIRST and LAST time something like this happened/will happen in that relationship? They were apparently arguing over a trip for her birthday. 

 

Having spirited, intense, even angry and loud arguments is not a crime and doesn't make you a bad person. But when it gets physical it crosses a line.

Apparently it is well documented that there have been MANY such instances between these 2 going back over a period of years.  It's a rather toxic relationship and these 2 probably should NOT be together.

 

Amazing a guy like Von could be this stupid.