PromoTheRobot Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Special K said: I would hope there would be no dead cap hit given the circumstances. I don't think the NFLPA would go along with this. Now the league could suspend him. They done as much for players accused of offenses. Not sure what a suspension does for the Bills cap tho. Edited December 1, 2023 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, Chaos said: so no trial or due process? just kicked to the curb because he stands accused? You mean like this team did with the punt God? Precident is set. 2 1 1 Quote
Niagara Dude Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 No one knows for sure what happened but if that was his 7 year common law wife then it's bad 1 Quote
Chaos Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: You mean like this team did with the punt God? Precident is set. So once you make mistake, you must always repeat the same mistake? 1 Quote
Franchiseneedsme Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 I'll bet his contract has a morals clause in it. He's definitely going to jail.. .. so what's our salary cap situation look like without Von? I think we would get a extra 40M 2 Quote
Niagara Dude Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) About the Texas “No Drop” Policy Texas has passed legislation to make sure that domestic violence charges are taken very seriously. Our state’s “no drop” policy means that, even if someone in your household wants to drop domestic violence charges, they do not have the power to do so on their own. Domestic violence charges are brought by the prosecutor—not the alleged victim of domestic violence. Under Texas law, it’s the prosecutor’s decision whether to drop charges. Even if the alleged victim later changes their mind, they do not have the authority to drop charges on their own. Instead, the prosecutor must be persuaded to drop the assault charges. It’s not impossible to accomplish, but it requires specific legal action and strategy. Convincing a Prosecutor to Drop Domestic Violence Charges Your partner or household member can’t decide to drop charges on their own, so your lawyer may need to emphasize other facts of your case. Each case is different, but a lawyer may emphasize a client’s lack of any past criminal record. They may also look to the facts of the case to help convince prosecutors that the charges need to be dropped. Why Does Texas Have a “No Drop” Policy? Our state’s “no drop” policy is tied to psychological research about the nature of abusive relationships. Abusive relationships often follow a cycle of gradual escalation of violence until a dramatic and significant episode. That episode is often followed by a period of calm during which the abuser tries to make it up to their partner. Prosecutors are concerned that their clients will make statements directly after a violent episode, and then take them back when things are calm again—even though there’s likely to be a gradual escalation of violence in the future. Prosecutors are also concerned that abusive partners will pressure their victims into recanting out of fear. The state’s strict “no drop” policy is designed to protect against these situations. Von is in deep poop, he cannot just make this go away. Edited December 1, 2023 by Niagara Dude 2 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: About the Texas “No Drop” Policy Texas has passed legislation to make sure that domestic violence charges are taken very seriously. Our state’s “no drop” policy means that, even if someone in your household wants to drop domestic violence charges, they do not have the power to do so on their own. Domestic violence charges are brought by the prosecutor—not the alleged victim of domestic violence. Under Texas law, it’s the prosecutor’s decision whether to drop charges. Even if the alleged victim later changes their mind, they do not have the authority to drop charges on their own. Instead, the prosecutor must be persuaded to drop the assault charges. It’s not impossible to accomplish, but it requires specific legal action and strategy. Convincing a Prosecutor to Drop Domestic Violence Charges Your partner or household member can’t decide to drop charges on their own, so your lawyer may need to emphasize other facts of your case. Each case is different, but a lawyer may emphasize a client’s lack of any past criminal record. They may also look to the facts of the case to help convince prosecutors that the charges need to be dropped. Why Does Texas Have a “No Drop” Policy? Our state’s “no drop” policy is tied to psychological research about the nature of abusive relationships. Abusive relationships often follow a cycle of gradual escalation of violence until a dramatic and significant episode. That episode is often followed by a period of calm during which the abuser tries to make it up to their partner. Prosecutors are concerned that their clients will make statements directly after a violent episode, and then take them back when things are calm again—even though there’s likely to be a gradual escalation of violence in the future. Prosecutors are also concerned that abusive partners will pressure their victims into recanting out of fear. The state’s strict “no drop” policy is designed to protect against these situations. Von is in deep poop, he cannot just make this go away. I doubt he is in deep poop. This at best will probably plead down to a misdemeanor with a fine and no prison time. 2 Quote
BillsDiehard Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 This is crazy...her account after the incident my g different than the 911 call! https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/buffalo-bills-nfl-von-miller-faces-arrest-in-dallas-texas-domestic-violence-case/287-2904617b-5d0d-4252-a321-28d8f61807f0 Quote
MasterStrategist Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: About the Texas “No Drop” Policy Texas has passed legislation to make sure that domestic violence charges are taken very seriously. Our state’s “no drop” policy means that, even if someone in your household wants to drop domestic violence charges, they do not have the power to do so on their own. Domestic violence charges are brought by the prosecutor—not the alleged victim of domestic violence. Under Texas law, it’s the prosecutor’s decision whether to drop charges. Even if the alleged victim later changes their mind, they do not have the authority to drop charges on their own. Instead, the prosecutor must be persuaded to drop the assault charges. It’s not impossible to accomplish, but it requires specific legal action and strategy. Convincing a Prosecutor to Drop Domestic Violence Charges Your partner or household member can’t decide to drop charges on their own, so your lawyer may need to emphasize other facts of your case. Each case is different, but a lawyer may emphasize a client’s lack of any past criminal record. They may also look to the facts of the case to help convince prosecutors that the charges need to be dropped. Why Does Texas Have a “No Drop” Policy? Our state’s “no drop” policy is tied to psychological research about the nature of abusive relationships. Abusive relationships often follow a cycle of gradual escalation of violence until a dramatic and significant episode. That episode is often followed by a period of calm during which the abuser tries to make it up to their partner. Prosecutors are concerned that their clients will make statements directly after a violent episode, and then take them back when things are calm again—even though there’s likely to be a gradual escalation of violence in the future. Prosecutors are also concerned that abusive partners will pressure their victims into recanting out of fear. The state’s strict “no drop” policy is designed to protect against these situations. Von is in deep poop, he cannot just make this go away. We shall see. Deep poop if the she continues and stays consistent with her story/collaborated with the supposed recording she started on her phone (as the situation progressed). The optics look horrible, so if she sticks with her story (and we haven't heard Von's yet), then it will be a PR issue and likely lead to his release. Quote
Arkady Renko Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsDiehard said: This is crazy...her account after the incident my g different than the 911 call! https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/buffalo-bills-nfl-von-miller-faces-arrest-in-dallas-texas-domestic-violence-case/287-2904617b-5d0d-4252-a321-28d8f61807f0 What? Quote
muppy Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Preds said: BILLSY no Billsy isn't Criminal. We are way beyond billsy here. Say what you will about the Bills but this type of situation is just the worst on so man y more deeper levels than billsy..imo 2 2 Quote
Warcodered Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Arkady Renko said: What? I guess she had a different story later by text, but there's still the injuries, and it's very common in that kind of situation for someone to suddenly say nothing happened. 🤷♂️ Quote Reached by text message by WFAA, Miller's girlfriend downplayed the incident. "We’re fine," she wrote. "Things were blown way out of context. This is actually outrageous!" She called the incident "a huge misunderstanding" and described it as "a verbal disagreement." "No one assaulted anyone," she texted. "This is insane. And sad." Edited December 1, 2023 by Warcodered Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: About the Texas “No Drop” Policy Texas has passed legislation to make sure that domestic violence charges are taken very seriously. Our state’s “no drop” policy means that, even if someone in your household wants to drop domestic violence charges, they do not have the power to do so on their own. Domestic violence charges are brought by the prosecutor—not the alleged victim of domestic violence. Under Texas law, it’s the prosecutor’s decision whether to drop charges. Even if the alleged victim later changes their mind, they do not have the authority to drop charges on their own. Instead, the prosecutor must be persuaded to drop the assault charges. It’s not impossible to accomplish, but it requires specific legal action and strategy. Convincing a Prosecutor to Drop Domestic Violence Charges Your partner or household member can’t decide to drop charges on their own, so your lawyer may need to emphasize other facts of your case. Each case is different, but a lawyer may emphasize a client’s lack of any past criminal record. They may also look to the facts of the case to help convince prosecutors that the charges need to be dropped. Why Does Texas Have a “No Drop” Policy? Our state’s “no drop” policy is tied to psychological research about the nature of abusive relationships. Abusive relationships often follow a cycle of gradual escalation of violence until a dramatic and significant episode. That episode is often followed by a period of calm during which the abuser tries to make it up to their partner. Prosecutors are concerned that their clients will make statements directly after a violent episode, and then take them back when things are calm again—even though there’s likely to be a gradual escalation of violence in the future. Prosecutors are also concerned that abusive partners will pressure their victims into recanting out of fear. The state’s strict “no drop” policy is designed to protect against these situations. Von is in deep poop, he cannot just make this go away. That's some really good information. Thank you for sharing that. Of course that sounds pretty locked. However, Von has the money for a locksmith. The right political "donation" is all it takes. 1 1 Quote
SCBills Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BillsDiehard said: This is crazy...her account after the incident my g different than the 911 call! https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/buffalo-bills-nfl-von-miller-faces-arrest-in-dallas-texas-domestic-violence-case/287-2904617b-5d0d-4252-a321-28d8f61807f0 “This is blown out proportion. It’s actually crazy. No one assaulted anyone” Ok then… And the “no drop” rule does make sense, however … assuming it got heated/maybe blown out of proportion and she truly wants to drop the case … this now could cost him, and by association her.. tens of millions of dollars. Edited December 1, 2023 by SCBills Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: That's some really good information. Thank you for sharing that. Of course that sounds pretty locked. However, Von has the money for a locksmith. The right political "donation" is all it takes. Yeah, all the prosecutor has to do is say "we don't have enough evidence" and down the drain it goes... Quote
wppete Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 We will never see him on the field with the Bills or any team again. He can kiss goodbye his GM fantasies also. Quote
Bangarang Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, Niagara Dude said: About the Texas “No Drop” Policy Texas has passed legislation to make sure that domestic violence charges are taken very seriously. Our state’s “no drop” policy means that, even if someone in your household wants to drop domestic violence charges, they do not have the power to do so on their own. Domestic violence charges are brought by the prosecutor—not the alleged victim of domestic violence. Under Texas law, it’s the prosecutor’s decision whether to drop charges. Even if the alleged victim later changes their mind, they do not have the authority to drop charges on their own. Instead, the prosecutor must be persuaded to drop the assault charges. It’s not impossible to accomplish, but it requires specific legal action and strategy. Convincing a Prosecutor to Drop Domestic Violence Charges Your partner or household member can’t decide to drop charges on their own, so your lawyer may need to emphasize other facts of your case. Each case is different, but a lawyer may emphasize a client’s lack of any past criminal record. They may also look to the facts of the case to help convince prosecutors that the charges need to be dropped. Why Does Texas Have a “No Drop” Policy? Our state’s “no drop” policy is tied to psychological research about the nature of abusive relationships. Abusive relationships often follow a cycle of gradual escalation of violence until a dramatic and significant episode. That episode is often followed by a period of calm during which the abuser tries to make it up to their partner. Prosecutors are concerned that their clients will make statements directly after a violent episode, and then take them back when things are calm again—even though there’s likely to be a gradual escalation of violence in the future. Prosecutors are also concerned that abusive partners will pressure their victims into recanting out of fear. The state’s strict “no drop” policy is designed to protect against these situations. Von is in deep poop, he cannot just make this go away. There’s little to no chance the DA tries to prosecute if the girlfriend does not want to cooperate. 2 Quote
muppy Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) sincere question for the board. Of all the domestic violence incidents recorded by NFL players. Is Von Millers' offense deemed so much worse due to she being pregnant? Is that the tipping point of this? Frankly the NFL and their stance on these issues is somewhat murky. Case by case basis..? Is a conviction the tipping point? If he settles or she renegues on her statement then he is deemed vindicated? can someone help a sister out here Thanks. m Edited December 1, 2023 by muppy Quote
Scott7975 Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Quote The girlfriend tried to gather her belongings, but Miller grabbed her phone, threw her laptop on the floor and stomped on it, the affidavit said. When she tried to get her laptop from the floor, Miller "pulled her by her hair, ultimately pulling a chunk of hair out and causing her to fall to the ground," the affidavit said. At this point, according the the affidavit, the girlfriend began filming the incident on her phone own phone, which she put in her pocket. The affidavit said Miller then grabbed her and pushed her onto the couch, again placing pressure around her neck with both hands. Something missing between these two things. Quote
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