Von Miller faces arrest in domestic violence case in Dallas

[Mango]

2 hours ago, Einstein said:

Yeah, bad decisions is part of the organizational issues that were mentioned.
 

We are currently $42M over the cap going into 2024.

Cutting White saves us $6M. 
Cutting Morse saves us $8.5M.
Cutting Harty saves us $3.9M.
Cutting Poyer saves us $5.5M.
Cutting Johnson saves us $7.7M.

Cutting these players brings us down to $10M over the cap.

We then have to replace those 4 starters too:

Average starting CB: $6M ($5,388,889)
Average starting S: $4M ($4,107,221)
Average starting Center: $6.7M
Average starting Nickel: $4.3M ($4,328,667)

That's $21M in replacements for average players.

There is no easy way out of this.
 

This would be a terrible mistake IMO.

 

The center is a pivotal part of the offensive line, both from calling out protections, to his relationship with the QB.

Cutting Taron would be dumb. He’ll get an extension to help alleviate his cap number.

[BuffaloBillyG]

15 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

 

 

$$$$$$$$$ if she doesnt testify the charges will be dropped......

With the evidence they found they may not even need her to testify.

[Mango]

It’s not so much the contract that’s killing us with Von. It’s his restructure. We should have an out this year and we don’t because of it. 
 

For all the talk of our record with “this roster”, we have one of the oldest teams in the league. We’ve been screaming towards this cliff for some time. 

[OZBILLS]

Knowing our luck, the NFL won't suspend him.

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, julian said:

Yeah the evidence of superficial injuries can and may seem damming, but I can’t help from going straight to the video on YouTube of the woman in a apartment complex accusing her spouse of assault but failing to realize inside the building’s elevator are security cameras where she was caught inflicting the injuries onto herself.

 

 Guess we’ll see where this goes.

Obviously that's awful to think someone would do that, though it's kind of the same with what Miller is accused of. That seems like the only way he has out of this thing but no idea how he'd even prove that in the event that was the case. Either way it doesn't look good for him really it's a bad situation.

 

As a rich guy he may be able to buy his way out of some of the trouble, but I don't see him staying here unless he clears himself.

[LDD]

9 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

Highly doubting Von actually gets in any legal trouble. I'd guess some sort of settlement, maybe even an under the table settlement, is on its way. Not sure what that means for his cap hit but it's probably not great. 

 

If any of this is true, I hope the woman and her baby get the protection and peace that they deserve. And I hope Von never has any type of role in the NFL ever again (front office included)

Eh, if it turns out that he committed physical acts of violence on her and the DA has solid evidence of such, which they appear to if they put a warrant out for his arrest, then Von might have some real trouble.  Another factor is the pregnancy.  Texas is a big right to life state and if the unborn child is injured or if the woman has a miscarriage because of the trauma and they can prove that these injuries caused it, he may have real big problems.  A victim in a felony assault doesn't necessarily need to testify.  The responding officers can certainly paint a damning picture and must have for them to put out a warrant.  I'm not sure of the threshold of a felony assault in Texas, but this appears to have some weight.  When you drive in to Texas all the signs don't say welcome, they say Don't Mess With Texas...there's a reason for that.  

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, OZBILLS said:

Knowing our luck, the NFL won't suspend him.

The issue would be the timeline, if this doesn't play out quickly enough it's possible even if they do eventually suspend him that it'll be after those cap hits are set.

[muppy]

42 minutes ago, RyanC883 said:

perhaps a cap person can weigh in here: if he has a morality clause, and we void the contract, does that void dead money, etc?  Or is it like cutting him without having to pay him the guaranteed money?  

@Tuco  thoughts mate?

[boyst]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

With the evidence they found they may not even need her to testify.

she could easily say they came from someone else or refuse to testify. women do this all the time in domestic issues, sadly. it's not for money - it's fear, conditioning, or other such things that make it a tragedy.

 

a non cooperative witness makes a case unable to prosecute. there have there have been cases where the accuser is paid and a settlement reached - literally a time where they sent the witness on a vacation when the court dates came up.

[Low Positive]

There still hasn't been a report of Von Miller turning himself in. 

[julian]

5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Obviously that's awful to think someone would do that, though it's kind of the same with what Miller is accused of. That seems like the only way he has out of this thing but no idea how he'd even prove that in the event that was the case. Either way it doesn't look good for him really it's a bad situation.

 

As a rich guy he may be able to buy his way out of some of the trouble, but I don't see him staying here unless he clears himself.

Oh yeah totally agree, that other dude was only saved by cameras, without that he woulda went down and if Miller has no such evidence then he’s in trouble.

 

 I’m happy that he’s no longer going to be taking snaps from Epenesa Floyd Rousseau or even Shaq, he’s been that ineffective.

[Mike in Horseheads]

1 minute ago, Low Positive said:

There still hasn't been a report of Von Miller turning himself in. 

He's back in Buffalo practicing lol

 

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

There still hasn't been a report of Von Miller turning himself in. 

he is likely organizing his surrender to police to mitigate his exposure, time spent incarcerated, etc.

 

more than likely the terms will have to be he can continue to work and travel freely, won't spend a minute in jail but pay a very high bail.

 

just another case of the haves and have nots.

[Low Positive]

Just now, Mike in Horseheads said:

He's back in Buffalo practicing lol

 

What you're saying is that after beating up his girlfriend, he went right to the airport, bought a one-way ticket to Buffalo, went right to OBD, and hit the sleds? Genius move. They'll never find him.

[strive_for_five_guy]

10 minutes ago, OZBILLS said:

Knowing our luck, the NFL won't suspend him.

It’s not as bad as pointing your finger at the opposing team on your way to a TD.

[stlbills13]

9 minutes ago, LDD said:

Eh, if it turns out that he committed physical acts of violence on her and the DA has solid evidence of such, which they appear to if they put a warrant out for his arrest, then Von might have some real trouble.  Another factor is the pregnancy.  Texas is a big right to life state and if the unborn child is injured or if the woman has a miscarriage because of the trauma and they can prove that these injuries caused it, he may have real big problems.  A victim in a felony assault doesn't necessarily need to testify.  The responding officers can certainly paint a damning picture and must have for them to put out a warrant.  I'm not sure of the threshold of a felony assault in Texas, but this appears to have some weight.  When you drive in to Texas all the signs don't say welcome, they say Don't Mess With Texas...there's a reason for that.  

 

I agree with all of this but really I'm just operating under the assumption that money talks. Even in justice-heavy states like Texas

[Jim]

25 minutes ago, Riverboat Ritchie said:

Just great.  If not showing up for 1/2 the year wasn’t enough, I’m gonna have to change some of my passwords with his number in it. I guess it’s best to keep with 12 83 34 or 78, or an occasional 67 58 or 97. 

Ya might wanna change any 97s. Might wanna read a bit about Biscuit. And 12, well, if we wanna talk about beating women, maybe take Jimbo out too.

[Bangarang]

So we’re looking at the possibility of him being suspended to start next season.

[billsfan_34]

33 minutes ago, wppete said:

Beane signed Von Miller to an insane guaranteed contract. Thats enough to get him fired. 

He sure did; just remember we were a dumpster fire before he got here. The grass isn’t always greener…

[Patrick Duffy]

12 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

With the evidence they found they may not even need her to testify.

Was going to mention basically about the same type of thing @boyst stated below. 

 

 

6 minutes ago, boyst said:

she could easily say they came from someone else or refuse to testify. women do this all the time in domestic issues, sadly. it's not for money - it's fear, conditioning, or other such things that make it a tragedy.

 

a non cooperative witness makes a case unable to prosecute. there have there have been cases where the accuser is paid and a settlement reached - literally a time where they sent the witness on a vacation when the court dates came up.