RiotAct Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, PBF81 said: WTF's he doing in Dallas today? The way that this team's season has gone, McD should have given them a day or two off after Sunday, then been practicing again for @ Chiefs. Apparently the "winning culture" players coach side of McD figured given their 10th seed status that they've all earned a week off. SMFH ... players are only allowed to practice and have meetings like 10 hours per year or something, as per the most recent CBA… Quote
PBF81 Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Bray Wyatt said: a bye week must include at least four consecutive days off, including Saturday. Yeah, just saw that. https://overthecap.com/collective-bargaining-agreement/article/24/section/2 This happened on Wednesday, which means that given that their 4 days "over a Saturday and Sunday," would have been Thurs thru Sunday at mimimum. This occurred on Wednesday at 11 a.m. according to local Dallas news. So the original point stands. 1 Quote
Kincaid Kool-Aid Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Bruffalo said: This is wrong but my first thought is "Does he have a morality clause in his contract we can leverage?" EDIT: Just in case this needs to be said. Abusing anyone is wrong, but especially a loved one. It's horrific behavior that creates generational trauma. I'm not saying Miller is guilty, just that the act of domestic abuse is disgusting. Kind of messed up but that's exactly where my mind went too. Sure hope it's not true for everyone involved, most importantly the woman. Quote
PBF81 Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: It's in the CBA, genius. Regular Season and Postseason Practices Section 2 Bye Weeks "During any regular season bye week period occurring during the term of this Agreement, players will be given a minimum of four consecutive days off. Such four-day period must include a Saturday and a Sunday unless the Club is scheduled to play a game on the Thursday following the bye week, in which case players may be required to report to the Club on the Sunday preceding the Thursday game. In such an event, the four-day period shall be Wednesday through Saturday. Any injured player may be required to undergo medical or rehabilitation treatment during such four-day period provided that such treatment is deemed reasonably necessary by the Club’s medical staff." See my post on the next page, ... genius. Incident occurred on Wed. at 11 a.m. according to local Dallas news. 1 Quote
Bray Wyatt Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: Yeah, just saw that. https://overthecap.com/collective-bargaining-agreement/article/24/section/2 This happened on Wednesday, which means that given that their 4 days "over a Saturday and Sunday," would have been Thurs thru Sunday at mimimum. This occurred on Wednesday at 11 a.m. according to local Dallas news. So the original point stands. Sure whatever you think Quote
Heels20X6 Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, RobbRiddick said: Just when the season was going so well We're going to find out the altercation was because Josh is the real baby daddy, aren't we...? 1 Quote
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, PBF81 said: WTF's he doing in Dallas today? The way that this team's season has gone, McD should have given them a day or two off after Sunday, then been practicing again for @ Chiefs. Apparently the "winning culture" players coach side of McD figured given their 10th seed status that they've all earned a week off. SMFH ... They have a bye this week so no practice. Quote
PBF81 Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Low Positive said: There are rules about practice during the bye week in the CBA. They could have had single 3-hour non-padded practices on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, but no team does that. You would get a really bad reputation around the league amongst players for not giving them the whole bye week off. Most players go on vacation. I know that we want them to have fully-padded two-a-day practices with Oklahoma drills to punish them for our anguish over all the losing, but that's not how it works. That's fine, but a whole week off for this team seems to make zero sense. Let's see if it pays off. Just now, Bray Wyatt said: Sure whatever you think Or whatever it says given that the logic that the CBA explains this is invalid. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Einstein said: Not saying we can't. I'm stating that it's tough to swallow the thought of spending even more draft capital to rebuild half the defense. It's what we have been doing for years now. And their defense was bottom half of the NFL in points allowed. They won because of their offense. So draft 2 WR's and still draft 3 defensive starters? It's a lot to ask for is all i'm saying. A much better RT for one. Likely need a new LT at some point with Dawkins only having 1 year left on his contract (unless we are willing to spend huge money to re-sign Dawkins). A legitimate #2 (and drafted #2 WR's typically take a year or two to develop). If we release Dawkins, White, Johnson, Morse, Poyer, Harty, and Hines we can get down to almost $0 cap space. Then we will have to restructure a few players to get enough room just to sign the draft picks. If your cap numbers are correct, then my numbers of who to cut are off .. but I’m wondering if the cap numbers you used aren’t factoring in projected cap increase? Because I’ve read $29M over … and $40M+ would be a reckoning that not even another JA restructure can fix. Regardless.. we can enter next season with something like this offense: Allen Dawkins / Brown McGovern / Morse / Torrence Cook / Johnson Kincaid / Knox Diggs / Shakir / RD1 WR Epenesa 4 year deal (backloaded) Floyd 2 year deal (w void years) Jones 2 year deal (w void years) RD2 DT RD3 S RD4 Slot Corner RD5-7 DT, S, OL That’s once again pushing $$$ down the road on the DL, but to years where we’re out of the Von & White deals with an ever-increasing salary cap. Defense will have to start some rookies in the Secondary, but that Offense … on paper, is elite … and the Bills DL and LB’s would be top tier. And maybe it comes down to Von vs Floyd, depending how this plays out. If we can get out of some of Von’s deal, we can keep Floyd … if not, and this fades away, we have to hope Von still has some juice in the tank. 1 Quote
WotAGuy Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 McDummy leaning back in his chair, hands clasped behind his head, deep sigh and a whispered “Thank you Von”. 3 Quote
BillsFan2313 Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Back2Buff said: Will Beane ever be held accountable? This contract was one of the worst things I have ever seen from the minute it was signed. Was it? Quote
PBF81 Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Mike in Horseheads said: They have a bye this week so no practice. Again, let's see whether that pays off. Seems to have been wise to at least have some extra video time or something. Particularly for the D. 1 Quote
RobbRiddick Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Simon said: Depending on the outcome, that might be the end of his plan to become an NFL GM down the road. On the plus side he's now perfectly qualified to be an owner 3 Quote
Bray Wyatt Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, PBF81 said: That's fine, but a whole week off for this team seems to make zero sense. Let's see if it pays off. Or whatever it says given that the logic that the CBA explains this is invalid. You said, "The way that this team's season has gone, McD should have given them a day or two off after Sunday, then been practicing again for @ Chiefs. " So after Sunday they would have had Monday and Tuesday off (per you) you wanted McD to have them practice on Wednesday? And that would accomplish what exactly? 1 Quote
TheBrownBear Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 So, will he still be able to lead this week's players only meeting? 1 Quote
alluro Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 Can his contract be completely voided? Quote
SCBills Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: Was it? In retrospect yea, but at time it made sense. What was the Rams offer? 2 yrs / 40M? Ours was essentially one more year at 3 / 60 plus some fluff that we restructured to make it a 4 year commitment. The restructure and reasons we went after Von are blemishes for Beane, but the contract itself .. I don’t know. I was good with it at the time. Edited November 30, 2023 by SCBills Quote
Einstein Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: If your cap numbers are correct, then my numbers of who to cut are off .. but I’m wondering if the cap numbers you used aren’t factoring in projected cap increase? Because I’ve read $29M over … and $40M+ would be a reckoning that not even another JA restructure can fix. Regardless.. we can enter next season with something like this offense: Allen Dawkins / Brown McGovern / Morse / Torrence Cook / Johnson Kincaid / Knox Diggs / Shakir / RD1 WR Epenesa 4 year deal (backloaded) Floyd 2 year deal (w void years) Jones 2 year deal (w void years) RD2 DT RD3 S RD4 Slot Corner RD5-7 DT, S, OL That’s once again pushing $$$ down the road on the DL, but to years where we’re out of the Von & White deals with an ever-increasing salary cap. Defense will have to start some rookies in the Secondary, but that Offense … on paper, is elite … and the Bills DL and LB’s would be top tier. And maybe it comes down to Von vs Floyd, depending how this plays out. If we can get out of some of Von’s deal, we can keep Floyd … if not, and this fades away, we have to hope Von still has some juice in the tank. My cap numbers are including the cap increase. But i don't want to clutter this thread anymore. Please move discussion here: Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, PBF81 said: See my post on the next page, ... genius. Incident occurred on Wed. at 11 a.m. according to local Dallas news. So you've never flown home the night before a day off after work? Tuesday night flight after work. Quote
Nephilim17 Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 IF this is true, and it might now be, it's very interesting that Von has this totally zen "I'm gonna be calm and at peace and control what I can control" demeanor that he presents to the football press. If he beats pregnant women — and history is full of both false criminal accusations against wealthy people and athletes who think they're above the law — then that demanor is A) either a total facade. or B) He's chill when it comes to football but a psycho in his personal life. The latter would be truly scary. 1 Quote
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