Von Miller faces arrest in domestic violence case in Dallas

[C.Biscuit97]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:22 PM, SCBills said:

Literally the entire board, along with Bills Twitter, was saying yesterday … if he did what he’s accused of, he needs to be gone. 
 

Now his gf is backtracking and defending him and some of us are simply asking what anyone thinks the NFL/Bills are supposed to do in this situation. 

 

but go off…

 

 

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You know it won’t be the outrage of that other situation. You are a liar id you say otherwise. 
 

fans cared more about that than Joe Mixon and Tyreek Hill combined. 

[BritBill]

Just when all things about that punter nonce have gone quiet here comes something else. 

[C.Biscuit97]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:26 PM, Warriorspikes51 said:

Innocent until proven guilty.  People rushing to judgment to condemn is the new trendy "social justice" nonsense 

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Define the term “social justice” without looking it up. 

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:27 PM, Dablitzkrieg said:

This is not new.  She is notorious for going nuts on Instagram and accusing him of using cocaine and neglecting their kids.  Just an overall toxic relationship 

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So mango was right about coked Von! 
 

and if he did it, he’s a garbage human being and needs to go to prison. And not going to victim shame but maybe marry a stripper isn’t the best idea in the first place. No offense to the good hardworking ladies out there,

[Warriorspikes51]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:31 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

Define the term “social justice” without looking it up. 

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social media driven narratives that snowball and pressure groups / corporations / authorities to take action 

[JohnNord]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:31 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

Define the term “social justice” without looking it up. 

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He means “social media justice” but the overall point is correct.  Given the instant news cycle and social media, the second someone is accused of something they are automatically guilty in the court of public opinion.  

 

[Bob Jones]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:25 PM, Jauronimo said:

If he did it he should be gone.  BUT if he definitely did it but now the victim claims it was all a big misunderstanding after the fact because relationships are complicated, thats an entirely different fact set.  Get it?

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LMAO. Wut? She calls the cops on him, and when they show up, he's taken off, and most importantly, they see bruises on her body, to include marks on her neck.

 

Later, she realizes that Von may lose millions of dollars, and of course that will affect her & her kids, so she tries to brush off the situation.

 

So, "the fact set" never changed (she was assaulted by VM) but her mindset did because of the realization of losing millions of dollars, and consequently, likely losing her lavish lifestyle.

 

Get it?

[JohnNord]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:34 PM, Warriorspikes51 said:

social media driven narratives that snowball and pressure groups / corporations / authorities to take action 

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We know what you mean…and you are correct

[C.Biscuit97]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:35 PM, JohnNord said:

He means “social media justice” but the overall point is correct.  Given the instant news cycle and social media, the second someone is accused of something they are automatically guilty in the court of public opinion.  

 

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Yeah because isn’t it social justice what people complain about being too soft on crime? 
 

but instant reactions to any story without the full facts is very dumb. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:26 PM, Warriorspikes51 said:

Innocent until proven guilty.  People rushing to judgment to condemn is the new trendy "social justice" nonsense 

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Seems like 99% of the posts here are “wait for the details to be released, but if he assaulted her get rid of him.”

 

Being mindful of different behaviors that a DV victim can exhibit, how the NFL disregards DV situations, and being a “social justice warrior” are very different things. 

 

If the police/DA won’t investigate, the NFL still should, and if they won’t the Bills still should. The alleged allegations that are now allegedly being recanted are serious. Unless the affidavit is a complete lie, Miller doesn’t deserve to be rostered. 

[billsfanmd07]

Hopefully If she decides to not press charges this is still our golden parachute to let him go and get out of that contract that I think most on here by the way were ecstatic when he signed.

Edited December 1, 2023 by billsfanmd07

[Warriorspikes51]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:43 PM, billsfanmd07 said:

Hopefully If she decides to not press charges this is our golden parachute to let him go and get out of that contract that I think most on here by the way were ecstatic when he signed.

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Von was very good until he tore his acl.   Every big signing has risks 

[Jauronimo]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:35 PM, Bob Jones said:

LMAO. Wut? She calls the cops on him, and when they show up, he's taken off, and most importantly, they see bruises on her body, to include marks on her neck.

 

Later, she realizes that Von may lose millions of dollars, and of course that will affect her & her kids, so she tries to brush off the situation.

 

So, "the fact set" never changed (she was assaulted by VM) but her mindset did because of the realization of losing millions of dollars, and consequently, likely losing her lavish lifestyle.

 

Get it?

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You paraphrase my post and ask if I understand the situation??  You may want to read it again, Bob.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:43 PM, billsfanmd07 said:

Hopefully If she decides to not press charges this is our golden parachute to let him go and get out of that contract that I think most on here by the way were ecstatic when he signed.

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If she doesn’t press charges, the case gets dropped and he very likely isn’t suspended under the NFLs PCP. 
 

This all shouldn’t stop the Bills from doing a thorough investigation into these allegations and eating the dead cap if it comes to that. 
 

Some things are more important than football, I don’t want ANY woman beaters on this team, dead cap be damned. 

[SCBills]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:46 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

If she doesn’t press charges, the case gets dropped and he very likely isn’t suspended under the NFLs PCP. 
 

This all shouldn’t stop the Bills from doing a thorough investigation into these allegations and eating the dead cap if it comes to that. 
 

Some things are more important than football, I don’t want ANY woman beaters on this team, dead cap be damned. 

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Ok.. so the Bills can:

 

Read the police report ✅

 

Talk to Von / he’ll deny it ✅

 

Talk to the GF / she’ll deny it ✅

 

Then what…

[LabattBlue]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:46 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I don’t want ANY woman beaters on this team, dead cap be damned. 

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End of discussion.  👍🏻

[billsfanmd07]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:46 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

If she doesn’t press charges, the case gets dropped and he very likely isn’t suspended under the NFLs PCP. 
 

This all shouldn’t stop the Bills from doing a thorough investigation into these allegations and eating the dead cap if it comes to that. 
 

Some things are more important than football, I don’t want ANY woman beaters on this team, dead cap be damned. 

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good points. But would we still be paying him cash? He would get all his money and not even have to show up

[boyst]

  On 12/1/2023 at 1:29 PM, SCBills said:

It’s not even about being given a pass.. 

 

Why is it the leagues responsibility to take action on someone when the person who alleged something happened, hours later.. says it didn’t happen?

 

Sure, they’ll look into it, but I’m not sure what the NFL, who has the NFLPA to deal with, is supposed to do about something that allegedly happened … then… allegedly didn’t happen. 

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100% agree. who knows if something didn't happen or did. but the nfl will act because of the current culture we are in.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:49 PM, billsfanmd07 said:

good points. But would we still be paying him cash? He would get all his money and not even have to show up

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Depends if he’s suspended under the NFLs Personal Conduct Policy. If he is, it voids his 2024 guarantees and the team saves 17m.

 

If the NFL doesn’t but the Bills investigation shows he did (or likely did) assault her, they would have to eat his contract. 

[Warriorspikes51]

  On 12/1/2023 at 2:49 PM, boyst said:

100% agree. who knows if something didn't happen or did. but the nfl will act because of the current culture we are in.

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really? Then why are Tyreek and others taking the field? 

[DrDawkinstein]

As the usual TBD suspects get their pitchforks and torches ready to go after yet another woman, I'll quote another reply I saw elsewhere that best articulates a good perspective to keep here...

 

"Its worth putting aside some disbelief for a moment to also think about how abusive relationships work. As a woman, particularly a pregnant one who is probably feeling extra vulnerable, there is always a lot of pressure to comply, or not report, or to smooth things over to avoid futher conflict and violence.

 

Imagine you have just seen a man the size of Von Miller angry enough to strike you, he is thousands of times richer and more powerful than you, more or less your entire well being relies on him at this point, and he or his lawyers just told you in very unpleasant terms your call to the police may have just cost him tens of millions of dollars in guaranteed money. Money that would have gone to you and your child, but maybe more scary money that the father of your child who already assaulted you now feels like you cost him.

 

Is this a highly toxic relationship? Probably. But please don't underestimate the pressure to capitulate in a situation like this, and try and have a little grace in your heart for this likely very scared and confused woman."