machine gun kelly Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 7 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: The Dolphins are three games ahead of the Bills. A week 17 win still requires 2 more Dolphin losses to tie them. They play Titans, Jets, Ravens,Dallas,and Bills. They could drop 2 of those but 4 of 5 are at home including Dallas. More realistic shot is a WC and they will still need some help. Ethan, they only have to drop to the Cowboys and Baltimore. We beat them and we win the head to head as we’re both 11-6 with us sweeping them. Not four. 6 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Well they destroyed the Colts today and the Vikings are trash without Cousins so... Hows that? Are you assuming Miami loses 3 games, one of them being us out of the next 5? It's unlikely they lose to the Titans or Jets. Maybe the Cowboys and Ravens but I think the Ravens are paper tigers. Yep, I’m guessing if we beat the Cowboys, then we win throughout, and I don’t see the Fish beating the Ravens and Cowboys. So yes, we can finish both 11-6. Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Ethan, they only have to drop to the Cowboys and Baltimore. We beat them and we win the head to head as we’re both 11-6 with us sweeping them. Not four. Yep, I’m guessing if we beat the Cowboys, then we win throughout, and I don’t see the Fish beating the Ravens and Cowboys. So yes, we can finish both 11-6. Heck, Dolphins could lose tonight or next week against the Jets! 1 1 Quote
DBilz2500 Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Head to head might not come in to play if it’s at three or four team tie at the end. but ultimately, I don’t think we’re gonna be winning any tiebreakers at all. Especially if we beat Dallas this week. That put us at four and one out of conference. Meaning our in-conference record is going to be one of the worst between all of the teams tied. but if we beat Dallas, at that point, just win out and don’t let tiebreakers come in to play. If we win just our remaining AFC games our conference record will be 7-5 which actually isn’t too bad. Could help us win a 3 or 4 team tiebreaker Quote
Gregg Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Heck, Dolphins could lose tonight or next week against the Jets! If Zach plays next week like he did the 2nd half yesterday, then maybe an upset can happen. That defense will keep them in it if they get help from the offense. 1 1 Quote
ngbills Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: If we win just our remaining AFC games our conference record will be 7-5 which actually isn’t too bad. Could help us win a 3 or 4 team tiebreaker We lose head to head to den and cin. If we are tied with pit, cle or ind they likely have a better conf record or else there would not be a tie breaker needed. Quote
Gregg Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Three games this Saturday on the NFLN and all of them are of interest to Bills fans. Minnesota at Cincinnati. Go Vikings Pittsburgh at Indianapolis. Not sure who we want here. Denver at Detroit. Go Lions 2 Quote
ngbills Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Gregg said: Three games this Saturday on the NFLN and all of them are of interest to Bills fans. Minnesota at Cincinnati. Go Vikings Pittsburgh at Indianapolis. Not sure who we want here. Denver at Detroit. Go Lions Maybe Pit. Indy has an easier schedule so need this loss. Pit has games vs cin, sea and bal so could lose one of those. 4 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Head to head might not come in to play if it’s at three or four team tie at the end. but ultimately, I don’t think we’re gonna be winning any tiebreakers at all. Especially if we beat Dallas this week. That put us at four and one out of conference. Meaning our in-conference record is going to be one of the worst between all of the teams tied. but if we beat Dallas, at that point, just win out and don’t let tiebreakers come in to play. Not necessarily, if we win the rest of our AFC games(LA,NE,Miami) our conference record will be 7-5 and that is actually a very typical record for a WC team. Thats why people are saying that the Dallas game is the least important of the games left. If the Bills lose this one, its not a deathblow but beating the Cowboys and then going 2-1 against the AFC teams will be much tougher. Edited December 11, 2023 by gonzo1105 1 Quote
Process Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Gregg said: Three games this Saturday on the NFLN and all of them are of interest to Bills fans. Minnesota at Cincinnati. Go Vikings Pittsburgh at Indianapolis. Not sure who we want here. Denver at Detroit. Go Lions Wow, didn't realize all those games were on Saturday. Definitely want Pittsburgh to win. They have a tough schedule and should lose at least 2. If Herbert is done for the year the Broncos have a very easy last 3 games. Need them to lose to Detroit. Edited December 11, 2023 by Process 1 Quote
Gregg Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Process said: Wow, didn't realize all those games were on Saturday. Definitely want Pittsburgh to win. They have a tough schedule and should lose at least 2. A triple header on the NFL Network. The Vikings-Bengals game is at 1:00. The Steelers-Colts is 4:30. The Broncos-Lions is 8:15. 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 57 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Ethan, they only have to drop to the Cowboys and Baltimore. We beat them and we win the head to head as we’re both 11-6 with us sweeping them. Not four. Yep, I’m guessing if we beat the Cowboys, then we win throughout, and I don’t see the Fish beating the Ravens and Cowboys. So yes, we can finish both 11-6. Yes the Cowboys and the Ravens and us we would take the division. Im just not so sure they lose to the Ravens. I know they have a great record but I seen some of their play and I dont think they are as good as their record. Quote
Gregg Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: Yes the Cowboys and the Ravens and us we would take the division. Im just not so sure they lose to the Ravens. I know they have a great record but I seen some of their play and I dont think they are as good as their record. The Dolphins game with the Ravens is in Baltimore. I am guessing the Ravens will be a slight favorite in that one. 1 Quote
mannc Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 45 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Heck, Dolphins could lose tonight or next week against the Jets! I'm calling it now. The Dolphins will lose at least one of the next two games, probably against the Jets. You folks are forgetting that the Dolphins have zero homefield advantage late in the season. Northern teams love to go down there to play in December and January. 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Process said: Wow, didn't realize all those games were on Saturday. Definitely want Pittsburgh to win. They have a tough schedule and should lose at least 2. If Herbert is done for the year the Broncos have a very easy last 3 games. Need them to lose to Detroit. It's not likely but it is still possible for Denver to take the division over the Chiefs. The Chiefs would have to lose to a bad team though I think as they have a cupcake schedule. If that happened it would take Denver out of the head to head and we have the head to head on the Chiefs. I haven't really simulated that to see how it would work out. Just something I thought of checking out. 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: The Dolphins game with the Ravens is in Baltimore. I am guessing the Ravens will be a slight favorite in that one. Yeah I agree they would be. That game is a coin flip imo. 3 minutes ago, mannc said: I'm calling it now. The Dolphins will lose at least one of the next two games, probably against the Jets. You folks are forgetting that the Dolphins have zero homefield advantage late in the season. Northern teams love to go down there to play in December and January. I hope they do. Any given Sunday... or whatever day they are playing those teams. Maybe the Titans even pull off the fluke tonight. Im not counting on it but I can still root for it. Nothing I would love more right now than killing the Dolphins fans cockyness of thinking they have the division locked by beating them again and taking it back. (obviously a superbowl I would love more but short term thats my hope) I hate Dolphin fans with a passion. Edited December 11, 2023 by Scott7975 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Dallas is beating someone in the AFC East, so hopefully it's Miami after we beat them this weekend and send them into "must win" mode for playoff seeding. All we need is to beat Dallas and take care of 2 cupcakes. If we do that, it could very well come down to a game in Miami to determine the division title. 2 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said: If we win just our remaining AFC games our conference record will be 7-5 which actually isn’t too bad. Could help us win a 3 or 4 team tiebreaker The silver lining if the dolphins win the division is they could possibly be resting starters in week 18 in which case I’d feel very good about finishing at least 3-1 with a loss to the cowboys if things don’t go our way for the division it’s almost better that Miami has the 1 seed locked up in week 18 lol Edited December 11, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: It's not likely but it is still possible for Denver to take the division over the Chiefs. The Chiefs would have to lose to a bad team though I think as they have a cupcake schedule. If that happened it would take Denver out of the head to head and we have the head to head on the Chiefs. I haven't really simulated that to see how it would work out. Just something I thought of checking out. If Denver caught the Chiefs, wouldn’t that be something? 8 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Dallas is beating someone in the AFC East, so hopefully it's Miami after we beat them this weekend and send them into "must win" mode for playoff seeding. All we need is to beat Dallas and take care of 2 cupcakes. If we do that, it could very well come down to a game in Miami to determine the division title. I’m traveling down to Miami for the game. Thinking we’re going to some pretty solid fan representation there. Would be so awesome to have the division on the line and be there to watch us win. 1 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Who cares? Let's beat the Cowboys first. One game at a time. It will all shake out. 1 Quote
Gregg Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Who cares? Let's beat the Cowboys first. One game at a time. It will all shake out. I know upsets happen all the time. Just look at who the Bills lost to this year so nothing is guaranteed. But I do believe if the Bills beat the Cowboys, then they will be 10-6 going into the Dolphins game. Will it be for the division I don't know but the Bills will beat the Chargers and Pats IMHO. 1 Quote
mannc Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: Who cares? Let's beat the Cowboys first. One game at a time. It will all shake out. No one on this forum is playing against the Cowboys on Sunday. We can look ahead as much we want... 1 Quote
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