Bills took the best team in the NFL to OT…

[mrags]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Moral victory season!!! Hang the banner for a hard-fought loss against a good team!! Congrats to all involved in the narrow defeat!!

He must be experiencing PTSD from the drought era or he’s someone that just jumped in the bandwagon a few years ago like so many and doesn’t really know what’s it’s like when your head coach sucks. 

[ExWNYer]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Moral victory season!!! Hang the banner for a hard-fought loss against a good team!! Congrats to all involved in the narrow defeat!!

 

This cat is delusional. He's spitting into the wind with this LAMP 'moral victory' thread and calling out people who have an issue with McDermott as 'entitled'.

[nucci]

21 minutes ago, appoo said:

While having a huge chunk of their salary cap on IR or basically washed 

 

whole fighting the refs in a horrifically officiated game 

 

while at a decided talent disadvantage on both sides of the ball 

 

on the road 

 

and y’all want to fire the head coach who’s has had nothing but 10+ win seasons for like 4 years in a row now?

 

It took the Eagles kicking a SIXTY YARD FG IN THE RAIN to get to OT. The Eagles had a better DVOA than the Bills.

 

There was no reasonable analysis that had the Bills winning this football game before the snap. 
 

Literally demanding the HC be fired for EXCEEDING expectations 

 

Nah this ain’t it 

 

[QB Bills]

I can't believe that after everything we've seen from this guy that there are still McDermott fans here. The drought really has given some of you lifelong PTSD.

[mrags]

1 minute ago, appoo said:

so does McDermott get full credit for Josh Allen in your world? And all the other hits from the draft? Or just the ones that don’t immediately pan out well?

Um…. He is the luckiest coach ever to get handed one of the most talented QBs to ever play the game. And yet he still finds ways to steal wins away from him. 

1 minute ago, ExWNYer said:

 

This cat is delusional. He's spitting into the wind with this LAMP 'moral victory' thread and calling out people who have an issue with McDermott as 'entitled'.

I think I figured it out. We’re being trolled by a true McDermott hater. He’s just bringing it up so that we get all riled up and start a riot. Maybe by the end of the day we will be lined up outside the stadium with torches and pitchforks demanding McDildos head. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

When do we raise the "Moral Victory" banner? 

[Ray Stonada]

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

All that’s left now is for a certain veteran poster to come on and tell us it doesn’t matter because McDs heart is in the right place. 

 

"McDermott and Beane are smart football guys, smarter than you and me. That's why we never question what they do."

[Einstein]

10 minutes ago, appoo said:

Beane much moreso than McDermott. Even then Beane and McDermott don’t control injuries. And the primary issue has been injuries to the D, and then of course Dorsey struggling 

 

If you think injuries are why the Bills lost yesterday, then I completely disagree.

 

We completely shut their offense down in the first half - injuries didn’t seem to be a problem then. And then the defense got steamrolled in the second half. The Eagles scored on 5 of their last 6 drives. 4 of those 5 were touchdowns.

 

The key was that the Eagles coaching staff made adjustments in the second half. McD either didn’t, or his adjustments were not helpful. That’s not injuries - it’s coaching.

 

 

 

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Edited November 27, 2023 by Einstein

[appoo]

Yea this ain’t about MvDermott the human being or moral victories. 
 

Want to know what makes a coach a great coach in the NFL? It’s not Xs and Os. That happens your coordinators.  It’s not player development. That happens with your S&C program and position coaches. 
 

It’s their ability to hire good coaches and then manage a locker room of multi-millionaires with massive amount of diversity in personality and backgrounds, and getting them to actually give a crap about each other and getting on the same page and sacrificing for each other. I mean the reason the Bills have Diggs is because that Head Coach COULDNT do that in Minnesota 
 

And yea game management matters and McDwrmott actually struggle some with that, but he’s not that far off from most teams in the league - all fam bases seem to hate this about their coach.

 

This is purely practical. The odds of the Bills UPGRADING McDemott are not great. The odds of them getting worse is much higher.

 

Ive gotten used to winning with Buffalo. I’ve seen engines coaches in the NFL over 35 years to risk that crap when I know the coach here is enough to get the bills where they need to go with a good roster 

[Ray Stonada]

28 minutes ago, appoo said:

While having a huge chunk of their salary cap on IR or basically washed 

 

whole fighting the refs in a horrifically officiated game 

 

while at a decided talent disadvantage on both sides of the ball 

 

on the road 

 

and y’all want to fire the head coach who’s has had nothing but 10+ win seasons for like 4 years in a row now?

 

It took the Eagles kicking a SIXTY YARD FG IN THE RAIN to get to OT. The Eagles had a better DVOA than the Bills.

 

There was no reasonable analysis that had the Bills winning this football game before the snap. 
 

Literally demanding the HC be fired for EXCEEDING expectations 

 

Nah this ain’t it 

 

Bills took the Eagles to OT, where McD has the WORST record in the HISTORY of the NFL (coaches with at least 7 OT games ).

 

He got them right where he wanted them... lol

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

Actually they took us to OT.

 

😆 🤣 

[JGMcD2]

5 minutes ago, mrags said:

Um…. He is the luckiest coach ever to get handed one of the most talented QBs to ever play the game. And yet he still finds ways to steal wins away from him. 

Look, I’m at the point where I’m ok with moving on from McDermott. You’re spewing off in other threads about how he has total control and is calling the shots… well if that’s the case he made the decision to draft Josh Allen. You can’t have it both ways.  
 

You’re in every thread this morning just running your mouth. You’re on pace to post in like 20 different threads in less than an hour with nothing of substance other juvenile comments like “McDildo” How old are you 35-40? I mean Jesus Christ. 

[jlgarsh]

16 minutes ago, appoo said:

He took Tyrod Taylor to 9 wins and the playoffs man

Dick Jauron went 13-3 one year too. Breaking the drought doesn't get him a lifetime hall pass. 

 

Without Josh Allen, McDermott would have been canned long ago.

[appoo]

3 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

If you think injuries are why the Bills lost yesterday, then I completely disagree.

 

We completely shut their offense down in the first half - injuries didn’t seem to be a problem then. And then the defense got steamrolled in the second half. The Eagles scored on 5 of their last 6 drives. 4 of those 5 were touchdowns.

 

The key was that the Eagles coaching staff made adjustments in the second half. McD either didn’t, or his adjustments were not helpful. That’s not injuries - it’s coaching.

 

 

 

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Its scheme and depth. The bills D will always fade in the 2nd half because they have almost no depth any more.  They do well in the first half because McDermott has just enough fresh talent at the right spots to get stops. 
 

Lqte 3rd and 4th and OT the Bills pass rush turned completely non existent because of that lack of depth and other pieces. For example they don’t have a good blitzing backer without Milano. 
 

That matters. Eventually McDermott turns desperate with his blitzes which is why you suddenly crazy plays like playing cover 0 in the red zone 

[dgrochester55]

18 minutes ago, appoo said:

He took Tyrod Taylor to 9 wins and the playoffs man

 

It is possible to both acknowledge and appreciate what he did in it past and at the same time realize that what he is doing in not working anymore.   It is time to move on from him.

[boater]

I agree with OP's analysis.

 

Such a viewpoint will be deeply unpopular and will garner many critical replies. There's probably three of us on the board thinking the same way.

[appoo]

1 minute ago, jlgarsh said:

Dick Jauron went 13-3 one year too. Breaking the drought doesn't get him a lifetime hall pass. 

 

Without Josh Allen, McDermott would have been canned long ago.

Yes because all NFL coaches will win without some kid of elite talent either at QB or at every where else on the roster 

[Mrbojanglezs]

0-6 in overtime 

[Bruffalo]

2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:

Look, I’m at the point where I’m ok with moving on from McDermott. You’re spewing off in other threads about how he has total control and is calling the shots… well if that’s the case he made the decision to draft Josh Allen. You can’t have it both ways.  
 

You’re in every thread this morning just running your mouth. You’re on pace to post in like 20 different threads in less than an hour with nothing of substance other juvenile comments like “McDildo” How old are you 35-40? I mean Jesus Christ. 

McDermott thought Nate Peterman was not only a rosterable QB, but starting caliber. 
 

So I would say luck definitely has something to do with finding our way to Allen. 

[appoo]

1 minute ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

It is possible to both acknowledge and appreciate what he did in it past and at the same time realize that what he is doing in not working anymore.   It is time to move on from him.

What would you expect differently out of a different coach with this specific roster and injury situation?