st pete gogolak Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 I’m as pessimistic as any Bills fan but I’m thinking there is no way this guy is hitting a 59 yard FG in the rain and wind on grass. I think the consensus is that Vinitari’s 45 yard FG in the snow to send the “tuck” game into OT is the greatest, most difficult clutch FG in history. After yesterday, it’s in second place. 1 Quote
pocoboy Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, st pete gogolak said: I’m as pessimistic as any Bills fan but I’m thinking there is no way this guy is hitting a 59 yard FG in the rain and wind on grass. I think the consensus is that Vinitari’s 45 yard FG in the snow to send the “tuck” game into OT is the greatest, most difficult clutch FG in history. After yesterday, it’s in second place. If only some numbskull of a Head Coach hadn't have given him a beat to catch his breath... 4 1 1 Quote
DasNootz Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) It could have been harder had we made the tackle in bounds rather than stripped the receiver of the reception on the previous play. A running clock for that kick would have amped up the pressure. - I fully understand that the defender isn't thinking about this in the moment. Edited November 27, 2023 by DasNootz 1 2 1 Quote
CSBill Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 1 minute ago, DasNootz said: It could have been harder had we made the tackle in bounds rather than stripped the receiver of the reception on the previous play. A running clock for that kick would have amped up the pressure. That's precisely what I said in the moment: let him catch it. He would not gain any yards, making for a quick rush onto the field. Then again, who would that be harder for? Is it the team that just lost a game by sending 12 out there in the exact same scenario, or the team that seems to be prepared for anything? 2 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 It was a great kick but it was a regular season game against a team that might not even make the playoffs also, a HOF C commits two penalties in a row and he still hits that kick. The life of a Bills fan. 😞 4 Quote
cisco2403 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: I’m as pessimistic as any Bills fan but I’m thinking there is no way this guy is hitting a 59 yard FG in the rain and wind on grass. I think the consensus is that Vinitari’s 45 yard FG in the snow to send the “tuck” game into OT is the greatest, most difficult clutch FG in history. After yesterday, it’s in second place. Was at the game last night. Being in person and watching it on TV, you don't appreciate how bad the conditions are. It was a ricidulous kick. What is even more ridiculous though was taking a TO to ice him when we could have used it to drive for the winning FG in the event that he made it. 5 1 Quote
BBFL Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, pocoboy said: If only some numbskull of a Head Coach hadn't have given him a beat to catch his breath... Peculiar in two aspects. #1 AJ Brown should have been tackled on the play by Poyer… Don’t know why he decided to play the ball resulting in a stopped clock on a play that would have only netted 4 yards and kept the clock running, forcing a team to hurry up and kick a FG as they are unable to spike the ball without losing the game… That is solely on McD. You just came out of a TO and can relay that if they tackle someone in bounds the other team is panicking for a FG. #2 Like you said, why give a guy more time to settle the nerves. It wasn’t like he waited right until kicking the ball to call an “icing TO”. So that leaves what? He called the TO to make sure there was no blunders on another game winning FG try… Just like the Broncos? I honestly can’t think of any other reason… And if infact that is why then that’s a bigger coaching concern that you’re worried players, without being told, acknowledge and prevent that same blunder from happening again. Just a whole peculiar ending to regulation. Especially when you factor in just settling for a knee and OT with 20 seconds and a timeout left. 🤷♂️🤦♂️ 2 1 Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 Regular season game winning kicks really don't move the needle for me. Playoff and superbowl game winning kicks are more "clutch" imo. This kick is farther down the list 1 3 Quote
Charles Romes Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, DasNootz said: It could have been harder had we made the tackle in bounds rather than stripped the receiver of the reception on the previous play. A running clock for that kick would have amped up the pressure. - I fully understand that the defender isn't thinking about this in the moment. mcDermott would have called timeout to set the kick block defense 1 Quote
BillsFan2313 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 Pretty sure Mcd said he called a TO to get the right FG defense out there. That's ridiculous. 2 Quote
T.E. Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 That kick could've only been made against the Bills. Also, that was McDermott's second awful timeout that half, the other being on the drive where Allen was in the zone, the Philly defense was reeling, and he inexplicably called one when we were inside the 5. Killed all the momentum, before we miss a chip-shot FG. Infuriating. 2 Quote
Livinginthepast Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, DasNootz said: It could have been harder had we made the tackle in bounds rather than stripped the receiver of the reception on the previous play. A running clock for that kick would have amped up the pressure. - I fully understand that the defender isn't thinking about this in the moment. I've been screaming for Bills DBs to do this on passes all season and of course one of the few times they execute a knockdown on a pass perfectly, it actually works against them. Then McD helps out with a TO. Edited November 27, 2023 by Livinginthepast 1 2 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: I’m as pessimistic as any Bills fan but I’m thinking there is no way this guy is hitting a 59 yard FG in the rain and wind on grass. I think the consensus is that Vinitari’s 45 yard FG in the snow to send the “tuck” game into OT is the greatest, most difficult clutch FG in history. After yesterday, it’s in second place. Give me a list of kickers who never miss. Kickers are like hockey goalies. Amazing one season , awful the next. Quote
BBFL Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said: Pretty sure Mcd said he called a TO to get the right FG defense out there. That's ridiculous. Please link this… ’Cause if true; Quote
Your Brown Eye Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 It was impressive, I thought there was no chance he would make the kick 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 It was a good kick but I am not sure how high it really is in the history of the league...I mean it was meaningful for the Bills playoff chances but just another regular season win to maintain the 1 seed for the Eagles, it was not that big of a spot really. Yes it was a national window in an exciting game but this thread is blowing it out of proportion. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 week 12 game can't make it the most clutch ever. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 44 minutes ago, pocoboy said: If only some numbskull of a Head Coach hadn't have given him a beat to catch his breath... He has done this repeatedly. Both with kickers and offenses that have a running clock and are scrambling to get first downs with the game on the line. How he has not learned that you don’t bail out the opposing side is beyond me. Incredibly frustrating. 1 Quote
Simon Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 The inner life of a Bills fan: I figured there was about a 5-10% chance of anybody hitting that kick in those conditions. I had no doubt in my mind that he was going to make it. 4 3 3 1 1 Quote
djp14150 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 1 hour ago, st pete gogolak said: I’m as pessimistic as any Bills fan but I’m thinking there is no way this guy is hitting a 59 yard FG in the rain and wind on grass. I think the consensus is that Vinitari’s 45 yard FG in the snow to send the “tuck” game into OT is the greatest, most difficult clutch FG in history. After yesterday, it’s in second place. They gifted him a time out break before the kick. Quote
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