Ramza86 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 They have been aiding high rated teams for years for viewership. Now more than ever its noticable. Especially with NFL and gambling together now. 1 1 2 Quote
L Ron Burgundy Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 I never wondered this for even a moment. Now, idk. Last night to me was insanity. I've never seen any sporting event called so one-sided. I've always thought the league wouldn't do it because if they get caught that's it. People would completely stop watching. But could the refs have money on the game? It was so bad that I don't think it can simply be an inept crew. 1 Quote
pocoboy Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 It certainly has the feeling of payback for doing the Eagles dirty in last year's Super Bowl on that DPI. Like, "ok, we won't admit we were wrong, but every tough opponent you get in 2023 we'll make sure you're taken care of." Quote
CapeBreton Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 I've watched a decent amount of Eagles games over the past two years and it's ridiculous how many calls they get in their favour, it's pretty sickening and I definitely question how legit the officiating is. Side note: my dad complains about NHL refs affecting the games but I tell him they've got nothing on the NFL, I'm glad he doesn't watch much football. Quote
JJGauna Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 They fixed a World Series over 100 years ago, surely society and people have advanced beyond that and we live in a perfect utopian future by now. (Opens up the internet) Nope never mind. 1 Quote
Billever76 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: If it was rigged .. wouldn’t they want the Bills to win this game? Eagles are 9-1 and cruising home .. Bills still have some big games coming up.., so now they are going be “out” already…? No they want to guarantee philly gets homefield..they want the kelce butt brother bowl and kelce gf serenading him for the halftime show duh Quote
Aussie Joe Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Billever76 said: No they want to guarantee philly gets homefield..they want the kelce butt brother bowl and kelce gf serenading him for the halftime show duh Why should homefeld be important ? Just rig the playoff game to get them into the SB Edited November 27, 2023 by Aussie Joe Quote
Buffalo Super Fan Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 No I don’t think the NFL is fixed. Think about it logically with social media today that would get out and spread like wildfire on social media. There is always someone that would be a whistleblower and spill the beans if the NFL games were fixed. So no I don’t think the NFL games are fixed. The Buffalo Bills were one kick in Super Bowl 25 from being Super Bowl champions. If the NFL games were fixed there is no way the NFL would let the Buffalo Bills near one Super Bowl much less four Super Bowls in a row as such a small market. The problem with the Buffalo Bills are we aren’t good enough. Noticed the Philadelphia Eagles made mistakes yesterday too but they are championship tested like the old 1990’s Bills teams. The reality the Eagles found a way to win and the Bills just aren’t at that level right now unfortunately to overcome the referees bad calls. It has nothing to do with NFL games being fixed. The 1990’s Bills were like the current Eagles last night they found a way even when they aren’t at there best. The current Bills team is lacking that in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 I wonder if there's a correlation to the NFL getting in on sports betting & the apparent rise in poor officiating? 1 1 Quote
1onemangang7 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 10 hours ago, Nelius said: Agreed that it would be way too complex. Way too many moving pieces. These people prove themselves to be regularly incompetent, you can't then assume that they're such maniacal geniuses that they could pull something like that off in front of millions. I think that's largely what you're seeing with the refs - just regular every day incompetence and stupidity. Although with the extreme rise in gambling you could get a few more bad apples Tim Donagy style. Not enough to fix anything, but lone wolf enough to do some weird damage to a game's outcome. Too complex? The game is almost always won on momentum. Momentum can be manipulated. Rouges acting independently get caught. "Vegas" is the worlds best watchdog. 10 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: I wonder if there's a correlation to the NFL getting in on sports betting & the apparent rise in poor officiating? The NFL was founded by shady types and a tight knit club. Sports betting has always been there. You can just see it now. 13 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: I wonder if there's a correlation to the NFL getting in on sports betting & the apparent rise in poor officiating? They been doing this since Namath somehow upset the Colts Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 18 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: No I don’t think the NFL is fixed. Think about it logically with social media today that would get out and spread like wildfire on social media. There is always someone that would be a whistleblower and spill the beans if the NFL games were fixed. So no I don’t think the NFL games are fixed. The Buffalo Bills were one kick in Super Bowl 25 from being Super Bowl champions. If the NFL games were fixed there is no way the NFL would let the Buffalo Bills near one Super Bowl much less four Super Bowls in a row as such a small market. The problem with the Buffalo Bills are we aren’t good enough. Noticed the Philadelphia Eagles made mistakes yesterday too but they are championship tested like the old 1990’s Bills teams. The reality the Eagles found a way to win and the Bills just aren’t at that level right now unfortunately to overcome the referees bad calls. It has nothing to do with NFL games being fixed. The 1990’s Bills were like the current Eagles last night they found a way even when they aren’t at there best. The current Bills team is lacking that in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo I normally think this but that first half yesterday was something else entirely. They threw every ticky tacky penalty they could at us and we still mostly overcame them but easily could’ve had 7-10 more points from more even officiating alone. of course we had our chance to win it anyway despite that and couldn’t execute but that doesn’t excuse the horrendous officiating imo 2 Quote
1onemangang7 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: No I don’t think the NFL is fixed. Think about it logically with social media today that would get out and spread like wildfire on social media. There is always someone that would be a whistleblower and spill the beans if the NFL games were fixed. So no I don’t think the NFL games are fixed. The Buffalo Bills were one kick in Super Bowl 25 from being Super Bowl champions. If the NFL games were fixed there is no way the NFL would let the Buffalo Bills near one Super Bowl much less four Super Bowls in a row as such a small market. The problem with the Buffalo Bills are we aren’t good enough. Noticed the Philadelphia Eagles made mistakes yesterday too but they are championship tested like the old 1990’s Bills teams. The reality the Eagles found a way to win and the Bills just aren’t at that level right now unfortunately to overcome the referees bad calls. It has nothing to do with NFL games being fixed. The 1990’s Bills were like the current Eagles last night they found a way even when they aren’t at there best. The current Bills team is lacking that in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo There is and it does. Ever hear of Jerry Rice? Dwight Smith? Rasheed Wallace. People don't pay attention to that. They put Cook on their fantasy team 🤡 Quote
Rubes Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 I don't know...if the refs/NFL really wanted Philly to win so badly, I can't imagine them really making that roughing-the-passer call against Josh in overtime. I mean, that was a serious acting job, and it was (er, should have been) a huge game-influencing penalty on the Philly side of the field. 1 Quote
KeLLy1278 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 The NFL is not rigged against Buffalo. The NHL is not rigged against Buffalo. Yet fans still think that there is a script.. they then proceed to watch every game and still complain which I can’t get my head around. You watch a sporting even that is supposedly already decided. You supposedly already know and accept this. Then you complain about it while putting money in NHL and NFL owner pockets. Queue the Twilight Zone theme. This theory that sports leagues are hellbent on not allowing Buffalo to win are so rampant and widely accepted by our fanbase that some people should get together and film a documentary about it. 1 Quote
1onemangang7 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, KeLLy1278 said: The NFL is not rigged against Buffalo. The NHL is not rigged against Buffalo. Yet fans still think that there is a script.. they then proceed to watch every game and still complain which I can’t get my head around. You watch a sporting even that is supposedly already decided. You supposedly already know and accept this. Then you complain about it while putting money in NHL and NFL owner pockets. Queue the Twilight Zone theme. This theory that sports leagues are hellbent on not allowing Buffalo to win are so rampant and widely accepted by our fanbase that some people should get together and film a documentary about it. The NHLs Blues winning the cup that year they won would be like the Giants winning it all in the NFL this year. Out of nowhere just not mathematically toast. Any sport with a betting line has some level of chicanery. Quote
dgrochester55 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) I do not think that it is fixed, but that the officiating is more involved in the games than needed. It isn't impossible for the other team to win when this happens, but I think that for example, when you play the Chiefs in a prime time game, you have to play well enough to win by 10 in order to offset the calls that they will get. My opinion is that some refs are just incompetent, but others like Shawn Hochuli have an extended history of favoringthe larger team and need to be investigated. Edited November 27, 2023 by dgrochester55 Quote
msw2112 Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 I don't think the games are outright fixed, but I do think there's a bias that influences officials' decisions. Yesterday's game was extremely poorly officiated and the Bills almost overcame it. The one call they did get was the roughing the passer late in the game. Up to that point, it was horribly one-sided. If it was properly officiated, the Bills probably would have had the game well in hand. I give the Bills a ton of credit for overcoming it, but they still fell short in the end. Quote
frostbitmic Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 I have a feeling the refs got a call from the shield at halftime and were told not to be so blatant, so obvious in the second half. Then again, watch any NFL game and it's always the same, the officiating is dreadful in every game. By not improving the officiating it seems like they want it that way. Other sports leagues would fix a problem, not the NFL. 2 Quote
Preds Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 11 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Completely agree. Been saying this since the Brady years. The NFL can very easily steer games in any direction. And they've been doing it for years. 10 penalties to 1 half way through the 2nd qtr. Seriously? and several egregious non calls on Philly 1 Quote
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