1onemangang7 Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 Gruden says he will "burn the house down" speaking of the NFL if his lawsuit doesnt pan out. Numerous individuals claim his superbowl win was rigged including the mvp of the game and jerry rice. The NFL is concerned. We'll see how this pays out. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: Gruden says he will "burn the house down" speaking of the NFL if his lawsuit doesnt pan out. Numerous individuals claim his superbowl win was rigged including the mvp of the game and jerry rice. The NFL is concerned. We'll see how this pays out. someone rigged Jerry Rice? 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 I hope not, but I wouldn’t be surprised. The NBA did it. 1 Quote
damj Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 I used to think so, but I don't anymore. Now, I know it is 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 12:29 AM, Buffalo_Stampede said: You can’t do it. Too many people involved. But you can have 1-2 bad apples and they can do enough damage. But no, I don’t believe the NFL is fixed. Officiating isnt getting worse, it’s always been bad. We just have more rules and more cameras now. Rules complicate an already difficult job. Cameras show every mistake they make in 4k ultra slow motion. Not that I think it’s fixed at all but how many people would it really take? League office/goodell himself and refs really. Its not like you need players or coaches involved or anything Quote
HopefulFuture Posted December 10, 2023 Posted December 10, 2023 Yes, I do believe the league is fixed, by gambling. 2 Quote
prissythecat Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 You can definitely tell the game is fixed from all the fake calls going against the Chiefs tonight . Quote
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 So everyone knows they are gonna blitz Glad we took cook out of the game Quote
1onemangang7 Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 in the college games balls dont doink off the posts, or its very rare. The pros muff punts. College kids dont. Quote
Locomark Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 America seems to have a heightened sense of conspiracy which is lame. Sometimes reality is that the officials just suck just like some of our players may suck.for a game. Rarely do the officials decide a game. The 5 big plays a game that each team has is usually what causes a team to lose. It’s why the nom-impact of Miller is hurting us. 2 1 1 Quote
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 17, 2023 Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) So there’s this thing where human beings are *terrible* at keeping secrets. If referees were being instructed by the league to impact games in specific ways there’s a 100% chance that one of the hundreds of people involved would have squawked about it by now. What I do believe is that the gambling industry is more than capable of getting to individuals, either in a shady back room kind of way or simply by one of the refs becoming a problem gambler. I also think refs can be motivated by dumb things like which players they like better on a personal level. But yeah this “fixing” concept, as in the sport is like pro wrestling…absolutely not. The risk/reward for the NFL to do that makes no sense. Edited December 17, 2023 by SageAgainstTheMachine 1 Quote
1onemangang7 Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 Tirico said he was stepped on again last night and we know it's not true as the video shows and is posted in this thread. Still they drag the story our all the while Trevor is no worse for wear. Quote
nedboy7 Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/17/2023 at 4:41 AM, SageAgainstTheMachine said: So there’s this thing where human beings are *terrible* at keeping secrets. If referees were being instructed by the league to impact games in specific ways there’s a 100% chance that one of the hundreds of people involved would have squawked about it by now. What I do believe is that the gambling industry is more than capable of getting to individuals, either in a shady back room kind of way or simply by one of the refs becoming a problem gambler. I also think refs can be motivated by dumb things like which players they like better on a personal level. But yeah this “fixing” concept, as in the sport is like pro wrestling…absolutely not. The risk/reward for the NFL to do that makes no sense. There are levels of fixing and massaging games. It does not have to be at the top level like some mob-boss slitting and deciding who wins every game. To think where there are millions of dollars there is no foul play ever is just not realistic. 5 Quote
zow2 Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 I do not think the league is fixed. I do think the NFL is a massive TV show worth billions (TV revenue, advertising revenue, franchise values, etc.) It's entertainment and the ultimate reality TV. And what the NFL wants are to have the best players and best teams in the tournament. I do believe as some have suggested they can't control outcomes but may try to steer the games in certain directions. For example, I do believe the league wants Buffalo in there. JA is the face of Madden for goodness sakes. He alone is a national brand and great for entertainment, the Bills avg. 30+ pts per game lately. After the Eagles debacle, I think the officiating has been very favorable to Buffalo. The calls in our favor have increased and some non calls on Buffalo for nitpicky crap have gone away. The procedural stuff will always be enforced, it's obvious. But they've swallowed the whistles on judgement plays that were called earlier this season. I expect that to continue through the end of the regular season. 1 Quote
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, nedboy7 said: There are levels of fixing and massaging games. It does not have to be at the top level like some mob-boss slitting and deciding who wins every game. To think where there are millions of dollars there is no foul play ever is just not realistic. Aren’t we more or less saying the same thing? I have no doubt there have been individual bad faith actors. Refs, coaches, players, you name it. But some people talk about it like it’s the other thing - the league office or some proxy handing down orders. Quote
1onemangang7 Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 11:48 PM, 1onemangang7 said: You can watch this one ya just have to click the link. Diggs catch yesterday was real. Hail Murray wasn't Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 6:02 PM, 1onemangang7 said: in the college games balls dont doink off the posts, or its very rare. The pros muff punts. College kids dont. Quote
1onemangang7 Posted December 18, 2023 Posted December 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: There's 2 in college over what time frame? The NFL has fun and makes it a theme. Multiple in a week. Kinda like offensive Offside. Quote
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