Poor man's Dick Jauron who lucked into the most physically gifted QB ever

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

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[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Based on the title I wasn’t sure if this was about Andy Ried or John Harbaugh 

[JerseyBills]

He doesn't deserve credit for developing a raw asf QB?

 

Ppl just love to pick and choose to fit their narrative 

[TFBillsfan]

IMO McDermott is more like Marvin Lewis and Marty Schottenheimer. Good coaches that can only take their teams so far. He’s done a great job turning the franchise around but does anyone have any confidence in him to make the right decisions in a close game against a quality opponent? 
 

His list of ways to give away games compared to quality wins isn’t even close. The Baltimore playoff game is probably his best big game win and that was with a hurt Lamar during half the game.

 

Does anyone see this team going 5-0 or 4-1 the rest of the season? They haven’t won more than two games in a row all season. They are just as likely to finish 8-9 as they are 10-7.

 

Nice guy but his time has run its course. 

[Maynard]

10 hours ago, Since1981 said:

This thread is correct and interesting. What would this McD team look like without Beane grabbing 17? And what would drought teams look like with 17?

 

It’s clear that McD is not the answer

I’ve always said McD would have already been fired without having 17. Maybe would have already churned through another HC by now as well. 

[Mr. WEO]

5 hours ago, Mark80 said:

 

You realize he took Tyrod Taylor to the playoffs, right?  Tyrod freaking Taylor.

 

The Bengals sent that incredibly mediocre team (being kind) to the playoffs---where McD was outcoached by Doug Marrone.  Doug freaking Marrone....

[streetkings01]

Look up Mike Sherman……him and McDermott are the same guy!

[margolbe]

McDermott has to go because he doesn't have the judgment to know that the strength of the team is the offense and he should do whatever he can to maximize the scoring.  The defense is terrible and the only way we will win is by running up the scoreboard and taking the risky, rather than safe play.

[EasternOHBillsFan]

25 minutes ago, streetkings01 said:

Look up Mike Sherman……him and McDermott are the same guy!

 

Well, he's coaching like Sherman from American Pie.

[PBF81]

1 hour ago, TFBillsfan said:

He’s done a great job turning the franchise around but does anyone have any confidence in him to make the right decisions in a close game against a quality opponent? 

 

Nice guy but his time has run its course. 

 

Yup!  So give him a fruit basket and a parting gift, as if four years of GM compensation won't be enough, and let's move on.  

 

 

[PBF81]

7 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Sad it took so long for so many of you to see McDermott was the problem. A vocal minority of us on this board have been trashed for seeing earlier what you all only now see.

 

6 hours ago, Billever76 said:

I've been suspended twice for doing what everyone else on this board does..SHARING MY OPINION 

 

I hear both you guys, and yeah, it's been a little rough to understate it, but at the end of the day, not sure it helps beating anyone over the head with this stuff.  

 

It seems as if the McD apologists are struggling enough within themselves emotionally over this all, seriously, and the realization that they were off, but at the end of the day we're all Bills fans.  

 

But it's also not as if we had any control over any of it besides spectating.  We show up at the stadium, even in siht weather, assuming we can get there, and do our part for sure.  At games we're all the same, even watching them on TV.  I have yet to see anyone sulking over watching the team live.  We're the best fans, as a collective, that any team could have.  We are now world renowned.  

 

Let's keep that image in mind.  

 

If people aren't beaten over the head when they're wrong, maybe next time they won't be as hard on skeptics and people with constructive criticism.  I'm hardly defending it, and I was a frequent victim of it myself, but It should all be about discussion and sharing of ideas, not who's right and who's wrong.  Who cares.  

 

We're all stuck in the same boat now as fans, one that has some holes in it.  

 

Let's see where she lands.  

 

While I know that there's a small subset of fans that simply want entertaining football regardless of the outcomes to the seasons, but at the end of the day most of us want a Lombardi.   

 

GO BILLS!!!  

 

 

[Thriftygamer83]

20 hours ago, Billever76 said:

I've been saying this for 3 years and have been suspended here twice for voicing my opinion on this bumbling moron of a coach....the biggest issue with the Bills is and always has been McDermott

Soft Serve Sissy Sean McFloormatt is burning thbprimes if the greatest team we've had in years.  Thirteen seconds and twenty seconds secured his legacy a cowardly limp wristed hire from the bowels of Innsmouth which is only possible due to his frat associations.  Many of those hires have fizzled and flamed out in Sabres and Bills circles.  Though it really gets under moderators skins on here.  

Edited November 28, 2023 by Thriftygamer83

[Chaos]

2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:

He doesn't deserve credit for developing a raw asf QB?

 

Ppl just love to pick and choose to fit their narrative 

He claims to have no responsiblity for offense. He had nothing to do with developing Allen, other than start Peterman over him in his rookie season. 

[Buffalo Junction]

3 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:

IMO McDermott is more like Marvin Lewis and Marty Schottenheimer. Good coaches that can only take their teams so far. He’s done a great job turning the franchise around but does anyone have any confidence in him to make the right decisions in a close game against a quality opponent? 
 

His list of ways to give away games compared to quality wins isn’t even close. The Baltimore playoff game is probably his best big game win and that was with a hurt Lamar during half the game.

 

Does anyone see this team going 5-0 or 4-1 the rest of the season? They haven’t won more than two games in a row all season. They are just as likely to finish 8-9 as they are 10-7.

 

Nice guy but his time has run its course. 

If they miss the playoffs I’d rather them get a better draft pick and make a HC change. This team needs a playmaker and an injection of optimism. I’d imagine all the top coaching prospects would love to luck into a job with Allen at QB. 

[Governor]

Most of us agreed before the season that McD would need to make it to the AFC championship game to survive another year.

 

That obviously isn’t happening. Injuries aren’t an excuse. Isn’t that why he has 17 defensive linemen? He can’t blame it on a coordinator that HE hired. He has no DC to blame.

 

Edited November 28, 2023 by Governor

[Dr.Sack]

Josh Allen > Cam Newton but sadly Newton made the Bowl in year 5. Allen is in year 6 and might not even get the chance to go dancing. I’ve been a McD defender, thought Beane held him back, but McD is making bad decisions in critical moments putting it all on line on defense but not letting Allen go for it in same situation. Like after the throw to Gabe, why not at least line up and draw them offside? Worse case take a TO dial up a banger and go get it. 

[jlgarsh]

12 hours ago, Mark80 said:

 

You realize he took Tyrod Taylor to the playoffs, right?  Tyrod freaking Taylor.

Jauron went 13-3 in Chicago one year. His QBs were Jim Miller & Shane Matthews. McDermott is Jauron without Josh Allen

[Yobogoya!]

13 hours ago, Chaos said:

He claims to have no responsiblity for offense. He had nothing to do with developing Allen, other than start Peterman over him in his rookie season. 

 

Are you trying to say Allen didn't learn anything from Peterman during those two quarters against the Ravens where he posted a 0.0 passer rating? 😂

[The Wiz]

So listening to WGR and talking about the bills and one score games I was curious.  They are 17-17 in one score games.  The chiefs are 29-10.  Yes that may have to do with luck and officiating but I figured I would take a look and see what this year looked like.

 

This years one score games for the bills (8 games).

OT Loss: NYJ 16-22  (punt returned for TD)

Loss: Jaguars 20-25 (kick returned to mid field and 3 and out.  Bills get the ball with 21 seconds left on their own 5)

Win: NYG 14-9 (PI not called against Bills)

Loss: Patriots 25-29 (unable to stop mac jones)

Win: Bucs 24-18 (hail mary failure because Bucs WRs are blind) 

Loss: Bengal 18-24 (unable to stop the offense)

Loss: Broncos 22-24 (12 men)

OT Loss: Philly 34-37 (letting them march down the field for the game tying FG)

 

The only time the defense was able to stop someone was in the Jags game when they were losing.  Otherwise, while they were ahead, the defense went soft and allowed the other team to get down the field and put the points they needed on the board to win (including the 2 games that they probably should have lost that they won).

 

And I don't believe they "stopped" philly before the 59 yard fg.  Philly just got as far as they could before time was against them.  Then they took 2 penalties and couldn't risk another play with only 23 seconds left and no TOs.

Edited November 28, 2023 by The Wiz

[Mark80]

19 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

The Bengals sent that incredibly mediocre team (being kind) to the playoffs---where McD was outcoached by Doug Marrone.  Doug freaking Marrone....

 

I mean, you just doubled down on my point, thanks.  Tyrod was horrible.  Horrible every where he has played.  Yet, somehow we made the playoffs with him and an "incredibly mediocre team."  Tyrod's horrendous, "I'm afraid to throw to anyone who isn't open by 5 yards mentality" lost that game for us vs the Jags more than anything.