Can we have a conversation about Diggs?

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Buffalo03 said:

It was Brady's first game last week. He tried different things. He had short week and a condensed game plan. Today was a lot different and you could see it. Today was better than any game Dorsey called all season and outside of one drop today, Diggs looked normal. There are no separation issues with Diggs

Ok like I said man we will agree to disagree haha.

 

Respectfully, your opinion is not gospel and it’s a pretty subjective subject .

 

74 yards on over 55 drop backs with 1 drop and maybe 1-2 more he could have had, does not scream Diggs looked like his “normal” elite self

[Ya Digg?]

11 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Yeah, I want viable weapons and Diggs looks like he’s either 1) not trying anymore 2) washed after the first half of the season.  Either way, I’ll let go before I’m burned rather than hope a 30 yr old WR is going to turn over a new leaf.

Even so, him not “trying any more” is still better than anything else the Bills have and better than like 80-85% of the receivers in the league 

I understand the frustration that everyone has, I have it to, but to want to drive the best player on the team out of Buffalo is crazy 

[Jerome007]

37 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I think he is mentally done in Buffalo.  We saw it at the end of last year,heard about it in the offseason.  I think he, and Josh, don't believe they can win with McDermott as HC.

I keep seeing this  repeated on here... but is it just a parroted narrative or actual truth? 

 

Even if Diggs would be "mentally out", he has still played hard and he delivers. His drops have been rare, hence why they stand out. He's not the problem on the field! Sometimes I do wonder about his attitude as well though...

[Buffalo03]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

Ok like I said man we will agree to disagree haha.

 

Respectfully, your opinion is not gospel and it’s a pretty subjective subject .

 

74 yards on over 55 drop backs with 1 drop and maybe 1-2 more he could have had, does not scream Diggs looked like his “normal” elite self

Diggs is fine. He is elite. When either McD goes next year or he goes somewhere else. You will be proved wrong lol. I think he is personally checked out as has been the case since last season ended. 

[DuckyBoys]

i dont see it  Guys has still been fighting every game  No quit in diggs even though he knows his hc is anchor draging this team to the bottom of lake Erie

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Buffalo03 said:

Diggs is fine. He is elite. When either McD goes next year or he goes somewhere else. You will be proved wrong lol. I think he is personally checked out as has been the case since last season ended. 

I’m sorry but I am not going to go off your opinion of “Diggs is fine and he’s elite” with nothing to back that up haha.  
 

Especially when he has clear drop issues and his production has gone wayyyy down .

 

We shall see, we shall see

[BeastMaster]

This team will miss Diggs tremendously when he's gone

 

You will most likely not find a replacement of his caliber, either

 

Be very careful what you wish for

[Buffalo03]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

I’m sorry but I am not going to go off your opinion of “Diggs is fine and he’s elite” with nothing to back that up haha.  
 

Especially when he has clear drop issues and his production has gone wayyyy down .

 

We shall see, we shall see

Lmao. He was elite in week 6. He is elite now. The offense was the problem. When you don't have a number 2 and a predictable offense, it's gonna cause issues. But you believe what you want if it helps you sleep better

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

I’m sorry but I am not going to go off your opinion of “Diggs is fine and he’s elite” with nothing to back that up haha.  
 

Especially when he has clear drop issues and his production has gone wayyyy down .

 

We shall see, we shall see

You do remember in the New England game when he clearly beat his man on a deep ball and Allen misfired, right? Diggs went for 57 yards that game. If Allen hits Diggs in his hands, he goes for 120. Perfectly good example 

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said:

Lmao. He was elite in week 6. He is elite now. The offense was the problem. When you don't have a number 2 and a predictable offense, it's gonna cause issues. But you believe what you want if it helps you sleep better

Cool- show me a stat where his separation is still elite and I’ll stand corrected.

 

If not, we will agree to disagree as there’s no point arguing opinions with no data to back it up.

 

Have a good night 

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

Cool- show me a stat where his separation is still elite and I’ll stand corrected.

 

If not, we will agree to disagree as there’s no point arguing opinions with no data to back it up.

 

Have a good night 

I don’t need a stat. I watch the games. I also see that we had problems as a whole as an offense which effects things but you wanna disregard the offensive problems and use it to say Diggs has lost a step

[mead107]

The refs love to screw him

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Buffalo03 said:

I don’t need a stat. I watch the games. I also see that we had problems as a whole as an offense which effects things but you wanna disregard the offensive problems and use it to say Diggs has lost a step

Ok so you have a subjective opinion.

 

As well do I

 

Difference is I’m not that rude to just say you’re “wrong” when we disagree lol

 

Have a good night sir 

[Buffalo03]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

Ok so you have a subjective opinion.

 

As well do I

 

Difference is I’m not that rude to just say you’re “wrong” when we disagree lol

 

Have a good night sir 

It's not an opinion. He has no issues with separation 

[Punch]

7 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I’m sorry but I am not going to go off your opinion of “Diggs is fine and he’s elite” with nothing to back that up haha.  
 

Especially when he has clear drop issues and his production has gone wayyyy down .

 

We shall see, we shall see

Diggs is (once again) amongst the NFL leaders in receptions, yards and TDs. 

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Buffalo03 said:

It's not an opinion. He has no issues with separation 

Ok then show me a stat that backs that he’s an elite separator this year.

 

Not “trust me bro, you’re wrong “

 

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

Ok then show me a stat that backs that he’s an elite separator this year.

 

Not “trust me bro, you’re wrong “

 

Have WRs never had a couple bad games in a row? Jamarr Chase has been crap the last 2 weeks. Is that issues with Separation? What about AJ Brown? 1 catch for 8 yards last week and only 20 yards receiving this week. AJ Brown looks slow and can't separate. He had a drop on the last drive. He's not elite. He's 26. Starting to get a little over the hill. The offense has to do with it. Not the player. His only issues recently is drops. Not separation

[BillsFan130]

Just now, Buffalo03 said:

Have WRs never had a couple bad games in a row? Jamarr Chase has been crap the last 2 weeks. Is that issues with Separation? What about AJ Brown? 1 catch for 8 yards last week and only 20 yards receiving this week. AJ Brown looks slow and can't separate. He had a drop on the last drive. He's not elite. He's 26. Starting to get a little over the hill. The offense has to do with it. Not the player. His only issues recently is drops. Not separation

I never once said Diggs is over the hill.

 

I just don’t think he’s played his best football the last 6 games or so and his production clearly reflects that. (Not just a Ken Dorsey problem)

 

Drops objectively he has had a lot more than usual.

We seem to disagree on the separation aspect which again is fine man haha.

 

[mannc]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

I will probably get flamed for this thread, but here goes - can we have a real conversation about Diggs' drop off this year? He has not been his usual special self since the London game. He's dropped a bunch of passes recently and now has two INTs on the year that were ripped out of his hands. I miss the days when Diggs was putting CBs like Marshon Lattimore and Jalen Ramsey on skates. This year he is getting locked down pretty easily by true #1 CBs.

 

I mean just to be clear Diggs is far from our biggest problem on offense, but when the ancillary weapons are so below average you really need your #1 guy to be at the top of the elite tier and Diggs just hasn't been that guy this year. I worry that he is reaching that age where WRs start to hit a wall, and once it starts it can get bad fast.

 

Flame away.

Agree 100%.  Just another reason we need to draft a guy in the first round who can step in immediately as WR2 and take over as WR1 the next year.  Digg's is 30 years old...there's gonna be a dropoff.

[Buffalo03]

1 minute ago, BillsFan130 said:

I never once said Diggs is over the hill.

 

I just don’t think he’s played his best football the last 6 games or so and his production clearly reflects that. (Not just a Ken Dorsey problem)

 

Drops objectively he has had a lot more than usual.

We seem to disagree on the separation aspect which again is fine man haha.

 

He has no issues with separation. He like any other elite WR has bad weeks here and there and they have been more prevalent in what was a bad offense as a whole for 6 weeks. So, what you're saying is Diggs hasn’t been able to separate in the same time our offense became completely predictable and sputtered? I don't think it's coincidence. The offense has been the problem 

4 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I never once said Diggs is over the hill.

 

I just don’t think he’s played his best football the last 6 games or so and his production clearly reflects that. (Not just a Ken Dorsey problem)

 

Drops objectively he has had a lot more than usual.

We seem to disagree on the separation aspect which again is fine man haha.

 

And by the way, saying someone can't separate and isn't elite anymore is basically saying he's over the hill without saying he's over the hill lol

[BillsFan130]

1 minute ago, Buffalo03 said:

He has no issues with separation. He like any other elite WR has bad weeks here and there and they have been more prevalent in what was a bad offense as a whole for 6 weeks. So, what you're saying is Diggs hasn’t been able to separate in the same time our offense became completely predictable and sputtered? I don't think it's coincidence. The offense has been the problem 

Yes i am saying he looks a little less twitchier than usual in his reps and has had issues with drops on top of that.

To confirm- Diggs is still a very good receiver.

I am just not seeing a dominant receiver anymore