Mikie2times Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 You heard the announcers discussing how the Eagles "just know how to win". We have seen teams like the Chargers most recently that are the complete opposite. We are now 7-14 in game decided by 7 points or less since 2021. Against good teams we will be in a lot of these games. Hell, nobody even sniffed a Super Bowl unless that record was flip flopped. A lot of people here blame McD and yes, he owns a lot of this, but it seems like how it happens runs deeper than just one area. Is it the sometimes untimely turnovers? Is it the defensive scheme itself? Then addition the poor clock management overlaid on top of it. I get it, winners just win. But what is it in our recipe that doesn't make us "winners"? At a bit of a loss as I'm sure many of you're. Here are just some of the games that we have either blown or nearly blown in very improbable fashion. We have won some close games as well, but as the record shows, few and far between. Houston Playoff Wild Card 2019 Bills are outscored 22-3 to finish the game and lose in OT Indianapolis Playoff Wild Card 2020 Bills are outscored 14-3 in the final twelve minutes. Colts fizzle out on the final drive. Bills hold on. New England Week 8, 2020 Cam Newton fumbles on the Bills 19 yard line with 37 seconds left preserving the win Arizona Week 10, 2020 Hail Murray Tennessee Week 6, 2021 Bills are outscored 17-7 to end the game. Bills stopped on 4th and 1 at Tennessee 3 yard line. Tampa Bay Week 14 2021 Bills come roaring back with a chance to win on the last drive, instead it goes to OT. Bills lose in OT Kansas City Divisions Championship 2021 13 seconds Minnesota Week 19 2022 Epic implosion fresh on our minds NY Jets Week 1 2023 Jets outscore Bills 16-3 in the 4th quarter and OT, Bills lose NY Giants Week 6 2023 Bills avert complete disaster with a likely no call on the final play Denver Week 10 2023 Bills do everything to gift wrap the game, fold at the end. Philadelphia Week 12 2023 You just saw it 3 1 3 Quote
Low Positive Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 The Eagles are filled with national champions. We have guys with traits. We also don’t have HS state champions. Winners know how to win. 1 1 Quote
Dr.Sack Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 Eagles are better organization with younger players, a better kicker, a better OL, a better DL, and better WRs. Only thing we had going was Josh Allen. If QBs were switched it would have been 3-70. 1 1 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Most of these losses . ( Tampa Bay and 13 seconds aside) … the Bills have had a two score lead and couldn’t hold on … Edited November 27, 2023 by Aussie Joe Quote
mrags Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: You heard the announcers discussing how the Eagles "just know how to win". We have seen teams like the Chargers most recently that are the complete opposite. We are now 7-14 in game decided by 7 points or less since 2021. Against good teams we will be in a lot of these games. Hell, nobody even sniffed a Super Bowl unless that record was flip flopped. A lot of people here blame McD and yes, he owns a lot of this, but it seems like how it happens runs deeper than just one area. Is it the sometimes untimely turnovers? Is it the defensive scheme itself? Then addition the poor clock management overlaid on top of it. I get it, winners just win. But what is it in our recipe that doesn't make us "winners"? At a bit of a loss as I'm sure many of you're. Here are just some of the games that we have either blown or nearly blown in very improbable fashion. We have won some close games as well, but as the record shows, few and far between. Houston Playoff Wild Card 2019 Bills are outscored 22-3 to finish the game and lose in OT Indianapolis Playoff Wild Card 2020 Bills are outscored 14-3 in the final twelve minutes. Colts fizzle out on the final drive. Bills hold on. New England Week 8, 2020 Cam Newton fumbles on the Bills 19 yard line with 37 seconds left preserving the win Arizona Week 10, 2020 Hail Murray Tennessee Week 6, 2021 Bills are outscored 17-7 to end the game. Bills stopped on 4th and 1 at Tennessee 3 yard line. Tampa Bay Week 14 2021 Bills come roaring back with a chance to win on the last drive, instead it goes to OT. Bills lose in OT Kansas City Divisions Championship 2021 13 seconds Minnesota Week 19 2022 Epic implosion fresh on our minds NY Jets Week 1 2023 Jets outscore Bills 16-3 in the 4th quarter and OT, Bills lose NY Giants Week 6 2023 Bills avert complete disaster with a likely no call on the final play Denver Week 10 2023 Bills do everything to gift wrap the game, fold at the end. Philadelphia Week 12 2023 You just saw it 1 6 Quote
vincec Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 What’s makes it really strange is that Bills have a money QB, which is one of the things you usually associate with teams that are good in close games. In Allen’s defense, he does leave the field with the lead a lot. 4 3 1 Quote
billsfanmiamioh Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 Loser coaches and loser mentality. Time for something new 9 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 Knowing how to win is just a cliche being trotted out by NFL announcers with air time to fill. Pretty much meaningless. The bottom line is this : Most NFL games are close. The Bills lose them because their HC is consistently too conservative in crunch time. It’s not about him knowing how to win- it’s about him being too afraid to try. So he makes choices that he thinks won’t lose in the moment. The problem is, it eventually gives the opponent a better chance to defeat you. In the close ones, they usually do. His record speaks for itself. 3 4 1 Quote
Best Williams Available Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 Because we’re coached by a loser. Not hard. 1 4 Quote
mrags Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, vincec said: What’s makes it really strange is that Bills have a money QB, which is one of the things you usually associate with teams that are good in close games. In Allen’s defense, he does leave the field with the lead a lot. Yup. It’s amazing actually that as good as Allen is. This absolutely horrific coach has screwed up one of the most talented QBs ever. 1 2 Quote
Marcus Aurelius Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 Because Bills Stadium is built on sacred Indian burial ground? 1 1 2 Quote
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 Can't fight these guys: 4 1 2 Quote
Mikie2times Posted November 27, 2023 Author Posted November 27, 2023 I think the over dependence on Josh, who even in his greatness can make some mistakes at times (although clearly the only reason we are in these games). We did run the ball well towards the end, but 50 attempts. Then older players, not a lot of youth or even playmakers. Diggs is a great WR1 but he’s not a true home run hitter. Than our defense which never dictated to anybody. It has always been a bend but don’t break. McD has brought way more pressure packages, but still. We play a very vanilla defense at the end of games. Time management is obviously a huge issue and that’s on McD. Last, but not least. We just don’t execute the kill shots. Not during or at the end of games and our pass centric offense doesn’t extend drives bleeding the clock and allows plenty of time for our warts to eventually show. I don’t know where we go from here. Wish I did. Josh was insane. His best game since 13 seconds as far as will to win. It was basically the same type of game. Same devastating outcome. 1 Quote
Best Williams Available Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Knowing how to win is just a cliche being trotted out by NFL announcers with air time to fill. Pretty much meaningless. The bottom line is this : Most NFL games are close. The Bills lose them because their HC is consistently too conservative in crunch time. It’s not about him knowing how to win- it’s about him being too afraid to try. So he makes choices that he thinks won’t lose in the moment. The problem is, it eventually gives the opponent a better chance to defeat you. In the close ones, they usually do. His record speaks for itself. This is a really good point and diagnostic. McD doesn’t make catastrophic blunders of coaching that make even the casual viewer say “what an idiot he should be fired!” But he makes many small yet bad choices that amass to skew the winning probability in favor of the opponent. This happens so frequently his winning % in close games like OT defy randomness. 2 Quote
Big Blitz Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, Low Positive said: The Eagles are filled with national champions. We have guys with traits. We also don’t have HS state champions. Winners know how to win. Great point Quote
BananaB Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Mikie2times said: You heard the announcers discussing how the Eagles "just know how to win". We have seen teams like the Chargers most recently that are the complete opposite. We are now 7-14 in game decided by 7 points or less since 2021. Against good teams we will be in a lot of these games. Hell, nobody even sniffed a Super Bowl unless that record was flip flopped. A lot of people here blame McD and yes, he owns a lot of this, but it seems like how it happens runs deeper than just one area. Is it the sometimes untimely turnovers? Is it the defensive scheme itself? Then addition the poor clock management overlaid on top of it. I get it, winners just win. But what is it in our recipe that doesn't make us "winners"? At a bit of a loss as I'm sure many of you're. Here are just some of the games that we have either blown or nearly blown in very improbable fashion. We have won some close games as well, but as the record shows, few and far between. Houston Playoff Wild Card 2019 Bills are outscored 22-3 to finish the game and lose in OT Indianapolis Playoff Wild Card 2020 Bills are outscored 14-3 in the final twelve minutes. Colts fizzle out on the final drive. Bills hold on. New England Week 8, 2020 Cam Newton fumbles on the Bills 19 yard line with 37 seconds left preserving the win Arizona Week 10, 2020 Hail Murray Tennessee Week 6, 2021 Bills are outscored 17-7 to end the game. Bills stopped on 4th and 1 at Tennessee 3 yard line. Tampa Bay Week 14 2021 Bills come roaring back with a chance to win on the last drive, instead it goes to OT. Bills lose in OT Kansas City Divisions Championship 2021 13 seconds Minnesota Week 19 2022 Epic implosion fresh on our minds NY Jets Week 1 2023 Jets outscore Bills 16-3 in the 4th quarter and OT, Bills lose NY Giants Week 6 2023 Bills avert complete disaster with a likely no call on the final play Denver Week 10 2023 Bills do everything to gift wrap the game, fold at the end. Philadelphia Week 12 2023 You just saw it You forgot Mac Jones final td drive 1 Quote
Kaenon Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 Answer me this... What is McDermott's head coaching record in OT? 1 Quote
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