Who should coach this team in 2024?

[Milanos Milano]

5 hours ago, Beast said:

Jim Harbaugh went to a Super Bowl with Kaepernick as his QB.

 

Give me him all day. Dig another well, Terry. Do whatever it takes.

This is all you need to know. Results speak for themselves. Harbaugh 100% needs to be our coach. 

[Pete]

It's obvious we need a coach who can make the right calls during the game, that can make this team a winner.  No more McMedicore please.  Trying to ice the kicker on a 59 yard FG, when we have 20 seconds and Josh Allen, is a typical idiotic McMediocre play. 

 

For the first time in history, The Bills are the only team to lose a game when they gained over 500 yards, won turnover battle, and had more than 10 first downs.  Teams were 39-0.  Now they are 39-1.  Great job McMediocre.  Now get lost.

 

Who are some good coaching candidates for 2024 Bills?

[4th&long]

Right now I would take Joe Brady if he brought in a good DC. 

[Roundybout]

Frank Reich for OC please and thanks. Brady can get an HC shot if he earns it but otherwise I want someone with experience on staff. 

[Mailman]

30 minutes ago, Pete said:

It's obvious we need a coach who can make the right calls during the game, that can make this team a winner.  No more McMedicore please.  Trying to ice the kicker on a 59 yard FG, when we have 20 seconds and Josh Allen, is a typical idiotic McMediocre play. 

 

For the first time in history, The Bills are the only team to lose a game when they gained over 500 yards, won turnover battle, and had more than 10 first downs.  Teams were 39-0.  Now they are 39-1.  Great job McMediocre.  Now get lost.

 

Who are some good coaching candidates for 2024 Bills?

I slept on it.  Still feel the same. Absolutely disgusted with McJauron's turtling in the brightest moments. We are always the punchline in other teams jokes and needs to change.

[BillMafia716ix]

McDermott is not getting fired. It’s wasted energy. This is his first bad season during his tenure. They found something with Brady. McDermott will be Coach and Joe Brady will be the OC. They waited too long to fire Dorsey. They should’ve canned him before the season started. His inept offense cost the Bills at least 3 games. With Brady running the show the Bills are 9-3. At worst 8-4 right now. 

[Gregg]

25 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

McDermott is not getting fired. It’s wasted energy. This is his first bad season during his tenure. They found something with Brady. McDermott will be Coach and Joe Brady will be the OC. They waited too long to fire Dorsey. They should’ve canned him before the season started. His inept offense cost the Bills at least 3 games. With Brady running the show the Bills are 9-3. At worst 8-4 right now. 

 

I think you are probably right. It's only been 2 games, but Brady has done a great job as OC and against 2 very good defenses in the Jets and Eagles. He also has Allen playing at an elite level. But if Terry does make a change and Bill becomes available then give me the six-time Super Bowl championship winning coach who also went to nine Super Bowls with an elite level QB. He is also a much better DC than McDermott whose defenses can come up with key stops in big moments. The INT at the goal line in the Super Bowl vs the Seahawks. Beating the Rams in the Super Bowl 13-3. Or how about in game adjustments something McDermott doesn't know anything about. Trailing the Falcons 28-3 in the Super Bowl. Bill makes adjustments and they shut them out the rest of the way for a 34-28 OT. 

 

As an added bonus Bill will want to stick it to Kraft next year so he will want to curb stomp the Pats twice. He already hates the Jets and has made them his personal "B". What is it 16 straight wins against them or something like that. 

Edited November 27, 2023 by Gregg

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

It's obvious we need a coach who can make the right calls during the game, that can make this team a winner.  No more McMedicore please.  Trying to ice the kicker on a 59 yard FG, when we have 20 seconds and Josh Allen, is a typical idiotic McMediocre play. 

 

For the first time in history, The Bills are the only team to lose a game when they gained over 500 yards, won turnover battle, and had more than 10 first downs.  Teams were 39-0.  Now they are 39-1.  Great job McMediocre.  Now get lost.

 

Who are some good coaching candidates for 2024 Bills?

 

Obviously. Now who's the obvious super bowl winning replacement? The next Robert Salah or Brian Daboll if you will?

[FireChans]

6 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Your argument falls apart when you realize that we lost 3 games this year to teams that we are CLEARLY more talented than. CLEARLY - Jets, Pats, and Broncos. Jags I would say maybe equal talent? But I also think Josh is at least two full tiers higher than Lawrence as a QB so to me that gives us a slight edge over them. For argument's sake we'll call it a wash. Bengals are (were, before Burrow's injury) slightly more talented, and Eagles are moderately more talented.

 

So putting the discussion about point differential aside, we have a team that is only 6-3 against teams they are clearly MORE talented than. We are then 0-3 against teams that have equal or greater talent than us.

 

How again is this an argument in favor of McDermott? I think you've lost the plot a bit here by pulling in teams like the Ravens and 49ers who we haven't even played. Our record compared to our actual schedule is clearly well below par. And yeah that is obviously a coaching issue.

 

I mean how many teams ahead of us in the AFC standings are clearly more talented than us? Maybe just the Ravens and not even by a landslide?

 

The truth is we are lagging far behind most of the conference in coaching, not in talent.

 

Barring Allen, I think the Broncos have a little bit more talent on defense.

[Gregg]

[BuffaloBillyG]

29 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

McDermott is not getting fired. It’s wasted energy. This is his first bad season during his tenure. They found something with Brady. McDermott will be Coach and Joe Brady will be the OC. They waited too long to fire Dorsey. They should’ve canned him before the season started. His inept offense cost the Bills at least 3 games. With Brady running the show the Bills are 9-3. At worst 8-4 right now. 

You may be 100% correct about that. You could also be way wrong. We will find out after the season. But, you and I don't know what's in Pegula:s head right now. 

 

See, here's the issue. You say it's his first bad season. I say it's not. The season is only as good as how you finish. The last "good" season the Bills had was the year they overachieved a bit and ended up in the AFCCG. Since then we had the 13 seconds debacle. We had the meltdown at home against the Bengals. In between we have had quite a few games like last night and the game against Minnesota.

 

Sure, his regular season record is great. But this isn't a team that can be content with winning the regular season. The Bills beat up on a lot of bad teams during his tenure here. The games McDermott wins the Bills blow people out. When we lose its normally a close game. Games like that are often won and lost by.... Coaching Decisions. 

 

You say "they" waited too long to fire Dorsey. "THEY" IS MCDERMOTT!!!  Same guy that HIRED that inept tool. Same guy that brought him back. McDermott has preached "run it back" with coaches and players for so long that fans are blind to it. Where does that have us? With an aging and expensive roster that was never quite good enough to overcome the constant coaching blunders. We are in what, year 7? And he still doesn't know when to challenge a play or how to use time outs. 

 

Real change is needed in the organization. Both with players AND the coaching staff. Let's not waste yet another year on a coach that is a great person, just not a great HC.

[Gregg]

Just now, BuffaloBillyG said:

You may be 100% correct about that. You could also be way wrong. We will find out after the season. But, you and I don't know what's in Pegula:s head right now. 

 

See, here's the issue. You say it's his first bad season. I say it's not. The season is only as good as how you finish. The last "good" season the Bills had was the year they overachieved a bit and ended up in the AFCCG. Since then we had the 13 seconds debacle. We had the meltdown at home against the Bengals. In between we have had quite a few games like last night and the game against Minnesota.

 

Sure, his regular season record is great. But this isn't a team that can be content with winning the regular season. The Bills beat up on a lot of bad teams during his tenure here. The games McDermott wins the Bills blow people out. When we lose its normally a close game. Games like that are often won and lost by.... Coaching Decisions. 

 

You say "they" waited too long to fire Dorsey. "THEY" IS MCDERMOTT!!!  Same guy that HIRED that inept tool. Same guy that brought him back. McDermott has preached "run it back" with coaches and players for so long that fans are blind to it. Where does that have us? With an aging and expensive roster that was never quite good enough to overcome the constant coaching blunders. We are in what, year 7? And he still doesn't know when to challenge a play or how to use time outs. 

 

Real change is needed in the organization. Both with players AND the coaching staff. Let's not waste yet another year on a coach that is a great person, just not a great HC.

 

This team has been declining since 13 seconds and getting further and further away from a Super Bowl. I mentioned this in another thread, but I would love to hear from Terry Pegula. We will have to wait until after the season most likely.

[UKBillFan]

51 minutes ago, BillMafia716ix said:

McDermott is not getting fired. It’s wasted energy. This is his first bad season during his tenure. They found something with Brady. McDermott will be Coach and Joe Brady will be the OC. They waited too long to fire Dorsey. They should’ve canned him before the season started. His inept offense cost the Bills at least 3 games. With Brady running the show the Bills are 9-3. At worst 8-4 right now. 

 

I'd be careful with saying they've found something with Brady. I hope you're right but remember Dorsey's first two games in charge? They put up 31 over the reigning Super Bowl champions and 41 against the Titans. It's early days and will be interesting to see what happens when DCs have had a chance to study the tape. Fingers crossed Brady can adjust better than his predecessor.

[From Roc to Ky bills fan]

11 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

jeez every other week I gotta answer this??

 

freshhhhh.....

Yes 

[GunnerBill]

Ben Johnson is the outstanding candidate partly because I don't actually believe he is this super creative offensive whizz kid the reputation paints him as. I think he has success not because he does anything super innovative (certainly not in the pass game at least) but because he absolutely knows what his players can do and what they can't and he leans into that and designs an offense accordingly. That translates much better to successful Head Coach than an Xs and Os genius. Gives me much more confidence that he can lead effectively because he understands who his players are. 

 

The rest of the market is thoroughly uninspiring to me. But you don't decide whether to keep your coach based on who is or isn't available. You evaluate whether your coach should be fired first and then you move onto the 2nd question if you decide to can him. 

[Spiderweb]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

It's obvious we need a coach who can make the right calls during the game, that can make this team a winner.  No more McMedicore please.  Trying to ice the kicker on a 59 yard FG, when we have 20 seconds and Josh Allen, is a typical idiotic McMediocre play. 

 

For the first time in history, The Bills are the only team to lose a game when they gained over 500 yards, won turnover battle, and had more than 10 first downs.  Teams were 39-0.  Now they are 39-1.  Great job McMediocre.  Now get lost.

 

Who are some good coaching candidates for 2024 Bills?

This team is in serious need of a quality DC. McD and his vanilla zone defenses let us down every time in crunch time. He is not the answer and we all blamed our lapses defensively on Frazier. He may have been a strong contributor but this year has shown that McD is the primary reason himself.

[thenorthremembers]

Before anyone says Bobby Slowik do you really trust your team to a guy who was coaching defense five years ago?   

[UKBillFan]

1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

Before anyone says Bobby Slowik do you really trust your team to a guy who was coaching defense five years ago?   

 

Maybe he could help with both sides of the ball. 😆

[K D]

Daboll for OC, Frazier for DC, AI analytics computer for head coach. McClappy can be outsourced 

[BuffaloBillyG]

19 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

This team has been declining since 13 seconds and getting further and further away from a Super Bowl. I mentioned this in another thread, but I would love to hear from Terry Pegula. We will have to wait until after the season most likely.

Declining in some aspects I agree. However the real fall out from that game to me was McDermott and Beane believing they were closer than they actually were and playing the "run it back" game instead of actively making changes to improve.