The AJ Brown OT catch was a fumble!!!!

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1 minute ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Ball was not tucked though, he was in the process of tucking when the ball came loose.  Bolded/underlined below is from the rule, time is part of the rule.

 

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-video-rulebook/completing-a-catch/

 

COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS

A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds:

a. secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and

b. touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and

c. after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.

 A stationery receiver catches the ball in the EZ but does not take a step nor do any of the other football acts.  After a healthy period of time a defender pokes the ball out.  Of course it's a catch and a TD.  There was possession of the ball for enough time to have done an act common to the game although in this case there was no reason to do so.  That's what the bolded means.   

 

There is no minimum time to establish possession in the rule.  It's only time enough to do a football act of which they list 6 examples, tucking being the first one given.  Now you say that the process of tucking the ball wasn't finished.  He caught the ball above his head and brought it down to his side, covering the second 1 on his jersey.  How much lower was he going with the ball?  It was in the tucked position.  No player takes the ball any lower.  So when does the tucking process end?

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On 11/26/2023 at 7:35 PM, Simon said:

Either call would have been both right and wrong.

Glad they didn't let a call decide the game. 🤷‍♂️

 

Very true but with all the calls that went against the Bills in that game i would have gladly took that one !

 

It seems that the Bills are always on the short end of it when it comes to bad calls being made it is very lop sided when it comes to bad calls against the Bills in games .