Game Ball: Shawn Hochuli

[Big Turk]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

it was legitimately one of the worst officiated games I’ve seen. Not just a bad call or two but systematically awful the whole way.

he was trying hard to smooth it out without looking dumb himself but there were just so many blatant bad calls that it was a struggle

 

Even Gene Sterratore was openly wondering what the hell was going on...the missed horsecollar put him over the edge

[LeGOATski]

1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Bills lost the game... Literally lost the game straight up because nobody knows what a catch is.

 

That ain't on the Bills.

I used to think like that, but it's getting absurd. I'm not making excuses for this league and it's refs when the smaller leagues with significantly less money can do it right.

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, LeGOATski said:

I used to think like that, but it's getting absurd. I'm not making excuses for this league and it's refs when the smaller leagues with significantly less money can do it right.

Yeah. Just want to see fairness. 

 

I hope in someway it effects economics.  God bless JA17 for making us relevant and exposing this crap.

[Big Turk]

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/refs-missed-horse-collar-josh-allen-bills-eagles-video-nfl-fans-reaction

 

https://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/2023/11/nfl-officiating-drawing-heavy-criticism-in-buffalos-matchup-vs-eagles-what-beef-does-sean-hochulis-crew-have-against-the-bills.html

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/11/26/josh-allen-jersey-ripped-referees-miss-penalty-bills-eagles

 

 

 

Edited November 27, 2023 by Big Turk

[Jeffbigalls]

2 hours ago, Zag20 said:

What are the odds that a former referee’s little boy is one of the most qualified people in the world to also be an NFL referee, and to get promoted to that role right after daddy’s retirement.

Probably because he's been doing it for a long time and worked his way up after all this is his 10th season in the NFL 

[Ralonzo]

I personally enjoyed the face mask on the Bills punt return called during the commercial break, that was funny.

 

But just on it's own, it would not be as indicative of how "flags for thee but none for me" slanted it was without the flagrant block in the back by the Eagles springing their return guy. 

[dave mcbride]

3 minutes ago, Jeffbigalls said:

Probably because he's been doing it for a long time and worked his way up after all this is his 10th season in the NFL 

There’s a word for this: nepotism.

[Zag20]

6 minutes ago, Jeffbigalls said:

Probably because he's been doing it for a long time and worked his way up after all this is his 10th season in the NFL 

“He entered the league in the 2014 NFL season and was promoted for 2018 from back judge to referee, following the retirement of his father, longtime referee Ed Hochuli” 

[Jay_Fixit]

I give the game ball the Josh Allen’s TERRIBLE interception and Bass’s 2 missed field goals.

 

Maybe 1 since the other was blocked.

 

Would that make you cry less?

[Ralonzo]

2 hours ago, Yobogoya! said:

This kind of thing should seriously be looked into. 
 

Those calls today were.. it’s weird, he was almost cocky the way he was announcing them. Like “I know it’s BS but you can’t stop me.” 

 

[BobbyC81]

2 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said:

Pathetic display of officiating. Nothing to do with being a Bills fan either.

Honestly, yes there were MANY calls that went against the Bills but there were a lot of key plays in the game and Philly just found a way to make enough of them to win the game.

[Dan]

I had Dolphins fans texting me asking why the league wants Buffalo to lose.  That says all you need to hear.  It’s not just Bills fans.. the football world knows we got screwed on multiple calls and should have won that game. 

[DapperCam]

My favorite was the most textbook blatant block in the back I've ever seen on a punt return 10 feet in front of the ref that went uncalled.

Even blatant special teams penalties (which they called at least 2 on the Bills) weren't getting called on the Eagles! It kept the game close when I feel like we really could have pulled away.

I think the second false start on Kelce was BS, and the roughing the passer in OT was an Allen flop. But if the officiating was even from the start I don't think it would have gotten to that anyway.

[BobbyC81]

I was shocked the refs actually called the roughing the passer penalty in OT.  Since there was some acting by Josh, I wouldn’t have been surprised for there to be no roughing but Josh called for unsportsmanlike conduct for the acting.

 

it honestly seemed like the refs were on the take or were afraid to call penalties against the home team in Philly.

[henry jones]

2 hours ago, Mynamemike said:

Sure is and I agree they were bad but they ain’t the reason we lost.  McDermott shouldn’t be given a pass for it.  He shoulda been tearing into the refs on multiple calls, but just like his defense he has not balls and took it on the chin.  His qb gets ragdolled on a horse collar and he just stands there with his thumb up his ass. 

Totally agree.  Officiating was a disaster in the first half.  I think it officially was 12-1 at one point.  Also agree that McClappy should have lost his sh$t on that crew.  There’s a time and place for getting worked up and he blew it.  Who cares if he gets fined.  I’m sure Bills Mafia would cover him.  And it might actually affect a few close calls coming back our way.  

[LABILLBACKER]

42 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

it was legitimately one of the worst officiated games I’ve seen. Not just a bad call or two but systematically awful the whole way.

he was trying hard to smooth it out without looking dumb himself but there were just so many blatant bad calls that it was a struggle

He couldn't cover up all the damage he did in the 1st half.  The NFL has it's objectives, we're just not part of it.

[NewEra]

A different referee grew and we win 99/100 times.

 

That may have been the worst officiated game I can remember.  
 

It should be unacceptable….. but it’s accepted.  
 

enjoy the next two weeks ladies and gents.  

 

You just can’t make this stuff up.  It’s truly unbelievable how 3 units worked together to change the outcome of this game.  

 

The officials robbed us.  The Bills players robbed us.  The Bills coaching staff robbed us.  
 

We deserve better.  
 

 

[LABILLBACKER]

6 minutes ago, henry jones said:

Totally agree.  Officiating was a disaster in the first half.  I think it officially was 12-1 at one point.  Also agree that McClappy should have lost his sh$t on that crew.  There’s a time and place for getting worked up and he blew it.  Who cares if he gets fined.  I’m sure Bills Mafia would cover him.  And it might actually affect a few close calls coming back our way.  

The way McD reacted made me sick to my stomach.  He wasn't willing to fight for his players with a head ref who clearly had an agenda. Like I said in the game thread, that was the worst officiated Bills game I've ever seen in my lifetime. 

Edited November 27, 2023 by LABILLBACKER

[BobbyC81]

1 minute ago, henry jones said:

Totally agree.  Officiating was a disaster in the first half.  I think it officially was 12-1 at one point.  Also agree that McClappy should have lost his sh$t on that crew.  There’s a time and place for getting worked up and he blew it.  Who cares if he gets fined.  I’m sure Bills Mafia would cover him.  And it might actually affect a few close calls coming back our way.  

Exactly.  From what we could see from the broadcast, he was calmer than I expected.  Yes, he should’ve complained enough to get a penalty and fine.   In my opinion, there were too many key plays in this game to blame it on one call, but that was blatant.  Should Josh have tried to throw that ball? Of course not, but common sense is not being used on there grounding calls this season.  On that play, Josh was in the grasp and being spun around.  Of course the ball isn’t going to go where intended.  
 

QB throws deep, receiver stops and that’s grounding?  Ridiculous!  I hope the Competition Committee addresses this in the off-season. 

[steven50]

I think the two or three times I saw them tackling our Wide receivers with a ref right there was just as bad if not worse and that was just with me watching on TV. I have to wonder how many times it happened and I didnt see the ref standing idly by

Edited November 27, 2023 by steven50