Buffalo / Philly Postgame thread

[Gregg]

Just a heads up. Don't watch the NFLN tonight 8:00. The game is being replayed at this time.

[Blank Stare]

13 minutes ago, Gregg said:

Just a heads up. Don't watch the NFLN tonight 8:00. The game is being replayed at this time.

[buffaloboyinATL]

12 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

My guess and my hope is Pegula is already on to Plan B here - fire McD and make a splash hiring at HC.  That would move sales big time.

 

 

Normally I would disagree, but I have to believe coaches would be lining up for a chance to coach Allen. A talent like his does not come around very often.  That said, I have no idea who would count as a "splash hire" these days.

[billieve420]

41 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Normally I would disagree, but I have to believe coaches would be lining up for a chance to coach Allen. A talent like his does not come around very often.  That said, I have no idea who would count as a "splash hire" these days.

 

Other than Harbaugh in Michigan not sure either. If Pegula decides to move on from McDermott. It should be finding the best offensive minded coach to pair with Allen. I would be willing to go with someone up and coming that has worked under some of the better offensive minded head coaches in the league. Philly outcoached this team and it starts with the head coach. 

Edited November 28, 2023 by billieve420

[st pete gogolak]

I think we need a young Alec Baldwin to come into the locker room to give his Glengarry Glenn Ross speech.  Always Be Closing!!!

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Normally I would disagree, but I have to believe coaches would be lining up for a chance to coach Allen. A talent like his does not come around very often.  That said, I have no idea who would count as a "splash hire" these days.

Harbaugh for sure.  The OC from Detroit would probably qualify.  Maybe Biennemy (before folks howl, the Chiefs do seem to miss him and he has gotten a lot out of Sam Howel), DaBoll if he became available.  I think Reich might qualify as a "splash hire" for a lot of Bills fans.

 

Now pair any of these guys with the likely available Saleh as DC.

 

 

[Bob Jones]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

Just a heads up. Don't watch the NFLN tonight 8:00. The game is being replayed at this time.

I recorded it on Sunday, and watched some of it last night after getting home from work. I zipped ahead on my DVR to the 2nd qtr, with about 7 minutes to go. From that point until halftime, the refs screwed the Bills over mercilessly....the head shot to Kincaid (no call); very next play, blatant holding by Slay right in front of an official who had the perfect angle to see it (no call); then of course the no call Horsecollar on JA, and even his half a$$ pass attempt was not grounding, as Davis was right there. And Romo was pointing out all these mistakes by the refs too. The 2nd half was a little better re "fairness", but the Bills still got the sh**ty end of the stick.

 

As I said in the GD thread, not sure how any unbiased observer would not be calling for the NFL office/Refs to be investigated for "fixing" a game. It was truly astounding. And no holding calls at all on Philly for the whole 1st half? Impossible.

[CincyBillsFan]

9 hours ago, Herc11 said:

And if the Bills unloaded to get CMC and he had another significant injury, you all would be out with pitchforks saying "I told you so." Injuries are an unpredictable part of the game. Stop being armchair GM's when it comes to players gettin injured.

Sure that would happen.  But if they took a chance on an offensive superstar who might have injury problems or who was approaching their "best by" date then it at least would show where the Bills priorities were.  The high risk signing of Miller, every bit as risky as signing CMAC, told the world that Bean & McD favored the D over the O big time.

 

Like I said, swinging for the fences on an offensive guy at least would have shown that the Bills had their priorities right.  Instead this organization is wasting Allen's prime years by skimping on the O and yet has failed to create anything approaching a championship caliber defense.  That alone is more then enough reason to part ways with Bean and McD.

 

 

 

[Warcodered]

1 minute ago, Bob Jones said:

And no holding calls at all on Philly for the whole 1st half? Impossible.

There were no holding penalties called on them at all, there were 4 penalties on them for 30 yards. Think about that 30 yards 4 penalties almost as if they wanted to increase the number with as few yards as possible. Hell the only serious yardage penalty they took was the roughing the passer one everything else was 5 yards.

[CincyBillsFan]

15 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

The Allen INT led to 7 pts 

So?  Was it a pick 6? Where did the Eagles get the ball?  Focusing on one mistake in a game in which Allen played spectacularly is weird.  If you want to play the "coulda, woulda, shoulda" game how abut 2 missed FG's, a dropped TD pass and a WR that screws up his pass route missing the game winning TD.

[Blank Stare]

32 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:

I think we need a young Alec Baldwin to come into the locker room to give his Glengarry Glenn Ross speech.  Always Be Closing!!!

Great scene in cinema!

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

47 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said:

I think we need a young Alec Baldwin to come into the locker room to give his Glengarry Glenn Ross speech.  Always Be Closing!!!

McDermott took it as “Closing Super Bowl windows”

[Bob Jones]

1 hour ago, st pete gogolak said:

I think we need a young Alec Baldwin to come into the locker room to give his Glengarry Glenn Ross speech.  Always Be Closing!!!

For us older guys, I think they need to bring in somebody like General Savage (Gregory Peck) from the late 1940s war movie, "12 O'Clock High", to give them a motivating speech for the rest of the year. 😉 Here's a snippet for those of you who have never seen that movie (I changed a few words to fit the situation):

 

"I’ve been sent here to take over what has come to be known as a hard luck group. Well, I don’t believe in hard luck. So we’re going to find out what the trouble is. Maybe part of it’s your coaching so we’re going back to fundamentals. But I can tell you now one reason I think you’ve been having hard luck. I saw it in your faces last night. I can see it there now. You’ve been looking at a lot of air lately… and you think you ought to have a rest. In short, you’re sorry for yourselves. I don’t have a lot of patience with this, “What are we fighting for?” stuff. We’re in a war, a war to get into the playoffs. We’ve got to fight. And some of us are going to die. I’m not trying to tell you not to be afraid. Fear is normal. But stop worrying about it and about yourselves. Stop making plans. Forget about going home. Consider yourselves already dead. Once you accept that idea, it won’t be so tough. Now if any man here can’t buy that… if he rates himself as something special, with a special kind of hide to be saved… he’d better make up his mind about it right now. Because I don’t want him in this group. I’ll be in my office in five minutes. You can see me there."

 

LOL

 

[DrDawkinstein]

1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Harbaugh for sure.  The OC from Detroit would probably qualify.  Maybe Biennemy (before folks howl, the Chiefs do seem to miss him and he has gotten a lot out of Sam Howel), DaBoll if he became available.  I think Reich might qualify as a "splash hire" for a lot of Bills fans.

 

Now pair any of these guys with the likely available Saleh as DC.

 

 

 

Oof, that's an ugly list.

 

Reich, absolutely not.

Bienemy likely isnt making it out of Washington and will promoted to HC

 

Harbaugh is a douche, has bad blood with Jim Kelly, and I'm not sure who his OC would be or what type of Offense he brings considering he's historically been a Greg Roman guy.

 

Dabol is interesting. As is Ben Johnson.

[Behindenemylines]

The more I stew on this the more I get frustrated. How is it possible we lost that game?  The only true answer is coaching.   Players will always miss plays, make errors, or cause penalties. They also make plays that create points, gain yardage, make interceptions, and cause fumbles. All of this is part of game play. 
 

coaching is the consistent portion and controllable part of the game.   Our defense was soft under Frazier, and now it’s more aggressive but still playing stupid under McD (bad coaching)Our Offense was scattered and lifeless and now seems to be creative and energized  (good coaching-small sample)

 

overall game planning and game time decisions are poor.  That’s HC coaching 

 

Gabe Davis consistently running wrong routes-poor coaching and discipline

 

the list goes on….

 

Time to move on I’ve seen enough

[BillsfaninCT]

Imagine Bellicheck with this team, lol, undefeated.

[BeavercreekBillsFan]

21 hours ago, MarkyMannn said:

3 of us in a room  All 3 said it's going in. Cursed

100% knew in my soul it was going right down the middle

[WideNine]

On 11/27/2023 at 9:35 AM, Warcodered said:

To be fair to Bass he missed one long kick in poor conditions, it really ***** sucks and people are building a narrative against him, but that ***** happens, nothing he can do about a blocked kick.

 

He was shanking some chip shots earlier this year and that did cost us.

 

I feel like he is hitting them better now.

 

Kickers have these ups and downs, but Bass has been pretty consistent for us overall.

 

With so many tight games where we let teams close on any lead we have late, those points lost on kicks get magnified.

 

 

 

 

[Tenhigh]

5 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

McDermott took it as “Closing Super Bowl windows”

It's too soon.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

6 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

So?  Was it a pick 6? Where did the Eagles get the ball?  Focusing on one mistake in a game in which Allen played spectacularly is weird.  If you want to play the "coulda, woulda, shoulda" game how abut 2 missed FG's, a dropped TD pass and a WR that screws up his pass route missing the game winning TD.

Hold your rant: 

 

I was correcting his assertion that it resulted in 3 points