Buffalo / Philly Postgame thread

[Meatloaf63]

How was there not a penalty when the d back cheap shots Diggs with a helmet to the back of his neck on the Allen touchdown run? That was a planned assault to injure. There is no other reason to hit him, the TD was already scored. It’s bad enough ignoring holding and pass interference, but a deliberate attempt to injure? That’s criminal activity in my book, Diggs could have been seriously injured.

[Matt_In_NH]

Davis “works his ass off no one works harder”.  Yet when the game is on the line and it is clear he is manned up presnap and they are blitzing he does not recognize it.  The drops are one thing but you have to be on the same page there.  And a guy who has been with Allen for 4 years….it just sucks.  

[BMWR100RT]

2 minutes ago, BillsFan2313 said:

 

They have a bye..

We got this!

[Billsatlastin2018]

1 hour ago, Success said:

 

We FOUND A WAY TO LOSE.  That's all there is to it. What games like this one has McD won?

EXACTLY!

 

When does the buffoon Clapper EVER win these critical games?

 

A: HE DOES NOT… NEVER… EVER… EVER!

 

GTG!

[Simon]

9 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Goodnight all. After more than 50 years of Bills fandom, I think the Bills have finally broken me. Its ridiculous to be as upset as I am about a stupid game.  

 

Send me $20 and I'll lock you out for 24 hrs..... 💲💲💲

[BillsDiehard]

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

and this after me getting him a nice bottle of scotch for a significant milestone birthday.

 

75 ? - )

 

 

[Toyo321]

12 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

“The #Bills are the 40th team since the 1970 Merger to have 500 yards, 10 third down conversions and a positive turnover margin in a game. They are the first team to lose in that scenario. Teams were 39-0 entering today“

 

THAT STINGS

 Yeah that is McD in a nutshell even when given such a game altering performance by JA17 his D calling lost this game.

[KOKBILLS]

50 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

That's ok, I got plenty.

 

That second half was the Bills coaching staff getting pantsed by the Eagles coaching staff who can actually adapt and craft plays to attack the Bills strategy of "we do what we do"

 

The Bills gameplan for the week was excellent I thought, save for the remnant 3rd-and-short shotgun draws. They kicked the crap out out Philly the entire first half and somehow (mainly refs) led by only 10. But the second half... oh the second half. There's at least a half dozen plays that were 100% scheme success by the Eagles coaches - mainly on offense but including the robber gamble on the INT probably dictated by the Bills tendencies and throttling of Josh to take the short throws. The outside corner completely abandoned his coverage based on the the formation and patterns, because as was said last season they "knew where the ball was going." That said, a lot of what the Bills did, the Eagles - a 9-1 Super Bowl team - had no answer for. When the Bills needed to throw, they threw. When they needed to run, they ran. If by some miracle they get into the playoffs and literally anyone makes gameday coaching decisions besides McDumdum they could easily go 7-seed-to-SB, but methinks they'll be tanked by the brass somewhere on the way. 

 

It takes an unbelievably bad head coach with a pathological need for his special unit - the defense - to be the star of the show even when he's getting killed by 2nd half adjustments. The concept of EV (expected value) or expected points per play, whatever - it's not a surprise the Bills are near the top in this category on Offense and Defense. if you look at the straight up numbers, they should be anywhere from 11-1 to 8-4 at the VERY worst. It's amazing they're top 5 in every stat that matters except win, where they're 10th... in the CONFERENCE.

 

The problem is coaching, and coaching decisions. Almost everything McDummy on game day does puts his thumb on the scale the wrong way. A game that plays out like today's game, the Bills win probably 8 out of 10 times. But McDummy takes away a couple percent here, a couple percent there with game time decisions every game, and continues running his scheme out like an invincible idiot once it's solved. Everyone knows McDummy is going to dial up pressure in key situation so have your blitz beaters ready, and the got beat over and over on the most critical, game-altering downs in the 2nd half.

 

It's unconscionable at this point that a franchise with a cheat code at the most critical position in sports can lose the games they've lost, in the way they've lost them, for 3 ***** years now. This is not an aberration; this is who McDummy is. He'd rather lose on the last play than win by 30 because "muh complementary football." It's time for him to go after he bumbles and mucks his way to an 8-9 season in the absolute prime of an unprecedented talent at QB, which is nigh impossible except for an arch-fool at the helm.

 

Pass the strawberries.

 

Folks who still want McD to stay should ask themselves a really simple question. How would McD fare with an average NFL QB and a GM that he does not control? He won the NFL HC lottery with Josh, and his GM gave him one Defensive piece after the other, after the other via the Draft and Free Agency. And we still get this this?

 

He's gotta go. He's just gotta go. We have to break this curse. 

Edited November 27, 2023 by KOKBILLS

[Ralonzo]

2 minutes ago, Simon said:

75 ? - )

 

50. But 75 on the old and grouchy scale.

[Success]

4 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Davis “works his ass off no one works harder”.  Yet when the game is on the line and it is clear he is manned up presnap and they are blitzing he does not recognize it.  The drops are one thing but you have to be on the same page there.  And a guy who has been with Allen for 4 years….it just sucks.  

 

I mean, that was the game right there.

 

Plenty of blame to go around.  But Allen's frustration after that play, and I think Davis threw his helmet on the sideline.  Just a lapse at the worst possible time.

 

[Cheektowaga Chad]

2 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Folks who still want McD to stay should ask themselves a really simple question. How would McD fare with an average NFL QB and a GM that he does not control? He won the NFL HC lottery with Josh, and his GM gave him one Defensive piece after the other, after the other via the Draft and Free Agency. And we still get this this?

 

He's gotta go. He's just gotta go. We have to break this curse. 

Honestly I think he would be about .500. he is a coach that needs to coach bad teams

 

He is absolutely clueless how to coach a team that is better than the opposing team 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

What'd the ginger ####### have to say at his press conference? Mumble mumble complementary 

[zow2]

17 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Goodnight all. After more than 50 years of Bills fandom, I think the Bills have finally broken me. Its ridiculous to be as upset as I am about a stupid game.  

 

I came home for Thanksgiving weekend, watched with some other out of town relatives.  As soon as Hurts ran in said we all said collectively, can’t  wait to leave this loser sports city.   But i’ll still watch.  I like getting emotionally abused i guess. 

[EasternOHBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:

 

Folks who still want McD to stay should ask themselves a really simple question. How would McD fare with an average NFL QB and a GM that he does not control? He won the NFL HC lottery with Josh, and his GM gave him one Defensive piece after the other, after the other via the Draft and Free Agency. And we still get this this?

 

He's gotta go. He's just gotta go. We have to break this curse. 

 

WE ARE IN FULL AGREEMENT, SIR!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ralonzo]

Just now, KOKBILLS said:

 

Folks who still want McD to stay should ask themselves a really simple question. How would McD fare with an average NFL QB and a GM that he does not control? He won the NFL HC lottery with Josh, and his GM gave him one Defensive piece after the other, after the other via the Draft. And we still get this this?

 

He's gotta go. He's just gotta go. We have to break this curse. 

 

Clappy carried a lot of water for the franchise. I'm not flipping out unreasonably for a botch or two. This is maybe a dozen games now where basically, all the gameday coach has to do is: not ***** everything up. But he keeps doing it, over and over, losing to bums, getting embarrassed by his opposing number.

 

i could see a scenario where the Bills playing like they did today go 4-0 in the next month winning impressively every week, and get themselves to a win-and-in in Miami, beat their asses up and down the field, and somehow this dipstick will find a way to lose in the last minute to end the season.

 

I sound like a broken record saying this for the past couple of years, but I think it's becoming obvious to EVERYONE now that McDermott is a coach that will do exactly what is required to lose the game: no more, and no less. I have no more slack to give him. This is who he is. If you need the Bills to win "one before you die" sooner than later, you need him gone sooner than later.

[Comebackkid]

32 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

Explain how a perfectly schemed wheel route for an easy touchdown to Cooke (dropped) was Brady's fault?  Of two missed FG's.  Players execute those 3 routine plays and we're winning 30-7 at halftime.  I don't even think McChoke and lose that lead??

how many first down drives and 3rd down conversion were negated in the 1st have repeatedly trying to run up the gut after

announcers saying thats the strength of the philly O-line. ?   I know the first drive we hit 3rd down, dorsey takes over and we go no where up the gut.'

next drive 3rd down, Dorsey comes back and we go no where again up the gut.   

[NoSaint]

23 minutes ago, Fan in San Diego said:

I’m finding it very hard to defend McD. But the refs screwed us more than mcD did.

those can both be major issues

[Livinginthepast]

McD has had a few great "Statement wins" but its now gotten to the point that the "statement losses" have eclipsed those games. In fact I would argue that these type of losses have been so psychologically devastating that McD cannot continue. 13 seconds, the Houston playoff loss, the crushing Bengals playoff loss (where they were totally unprepared), the Minni fumble on the 1 loss, the Peterman 5 INT loss and this Philly game among others that I have mercifully forgotten. I cannot believe that any team can still believe in their coach when they have experienced even one of these losses let alone multiple ones. I think McD has always been an anchor on this team and they have won DESPITE him. He needs to go now!

[QLBillsFan]

13 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

First thing my Steelers-fan friend said "that's 8 games in a row he throws a pick, he lost that game"

 

We almost came to blows, seriously. He knows jack and ***** about football, that was all about the Eagles coaches recognizing a Bills formation/pattern tendency and running a robber with their boundary corner jumping a slot route. If Allen had saw that instead of throwing the rhythm pass as coached, that's probably a walk-in score since the outside man was completely unmarked. Trying to explain that fact simply escalated the situation and it degenerated from there. We grunted at each other leaving the watch party... and this after me getting him a nice bottle of scotch for a significant milestone birthday.

Your friends team is not good..his qb is bad.. they will be a short visitor if they get to the playoffs