Gabe Davis Miscommunication Plays this season

[CNYfan]

I have loved Gabe, but the drop that led to the interception in the Denver game was when I thought - "I don't think the Bills should give this guy his next contract".  

 

 

[JoshAllin]

Just replace Gabe with Shakir at this point, Shakir makes these plays that Gabe screw ups almost all day and put Gabe in Shakirs spot

[boater]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:12 AM, HappyDays said:

Yeah he is a dumb player, I don't know a more respectful way to say it.

 

If we had signed DeAndre Hopkins in the offseason I think we would have a minimum of 3 more wins right now. Brandon Beane completely failed his franchise's biggest investment.

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You don't know what went on between Beane and DeAndre Hopkins.

 

Though, you can surmise from how things have played out: DeAndre is WR1 in Tennessee, he had little interest in being Buffalo WR2, splitting touches with Diggs and whoever was going play slot-type WR (that turned out to be Kincaid).

  On 11/27/2023 at 9:36 AM, Dr.Sack said:

Gabe makes the right route he’s a hero. But Gabe came up small when his future was on the line. Someone will pay big $ for a guy who clearly lacks talent and now hate to say it, low football IQ. 

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I doubt it. A lot of GMs will see that missed route from last night.

[Spiderweb]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:16 AM, FireChans said:

At least once per game, except maybe last week when he didn't have a target.

 

Unreliable WR's are bad. Trent Sherfield and Gabe aren't it.

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Sherfield should never see the field again after yesterday.

[Wraith]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:58 AM, MikePJ76 said:

The d back had his back turned.  He was beat no matter where davis went, the play has a built in option if the safety vacates the area and there is pressure.

 

it was obvious as it gets, the eagles brought pressure, Allen has no time to wait for a corner route, with pressure and the safety out of the middle and the corner with his back turned the ball goes inside.  Every damn time.  

 

its no different than tight ends who run dig routes and the break goes to where they have leverage or an inside wr breaking off a route to a quick slant because of pressure leaving the middle of the field wide open.

 

It was elementary stuff.  That is why the damn option is built into those plays, for that exact situation.  As soon as allen snapped the ball and he saw pressure, the safety moved and the corners back to him he did what he was supposed to do.

 

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Thank you for this. It was an option route and the read is the safety, not the CB leverage. Going to the corner puts the CB between the receiver and the QB no matter what the leverage was but takes the safety out of the equation. As it was an all out blitz and the safety vacated the middle of the field Davis should have just ran a go route. Davis has a great game up to that point but he is prone to misreading the option routes and it burned them again this time. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

They talked about Gabe Davis miscommunications with Allen on WGR prior to the game. Unbelievable that it continues.

[C.Biscuit97]

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:34 AM, cgg716 said:

I think it's pretty clearly Gabe at fault here, cover zero vacates the middle. Josh threw to the vacancy. Football 101

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He was wide open in the corner of the end zone. I think Allen was rushed and through it right after Davis broke.   This is the downside of option routes.  Did they talk about it postgame?

 

and I know what Davis is. He’s an inconsistent number 3 who is forced be a number 2 who will get overpaid for what he is. My main point is there were plenty of other plays to be blamed and it seems a little harsh to pile on a guy who was one of the best players on the field because of an option route. 

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:13 PM, boater said:

You don't know what went on between Beane and DeAndre Hopkins.

 

Though, you can surmise from how things have played out: DeAndre is WR1 in Tennessee, he had little interest in being Buffalo WR2, splitting touches with Diggs and whoever was going play slot-type WR (that turned out to be Kincaid).

I doubt it. A lot of GMs will see that missed route from last night.

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Haha, do you think this is the only time an option route has been messed up? 

[cgg716]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:48 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

He was wide open in the corner of the end zone. I think Allen was rushed and through it right after Davis broke.   This is the downside of option routes.  Did they talk about it postgame?

 

and I know what Davis is. He’s an inconsistent number 3 who is forced be a number 2 who will get overpaid for what he is. My main point is there were plenty of other plays to be blamed and it seems a little harsh to pile on a guy who was one of the best players on the field because of an option route. 

Haha, do you think this is the only time an option route has been messed up? 

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Under that pressure, Allen can't necessarily see open in the corner, what he does know though, is which area of the field that pressure vacates, which is where Gabe should be, he was not 

[C.Biscuit97]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:57 PM, cgg716 said:

Under that pressure, Allen can't necessarily see open in the corner, what he does know though, is which area of the field that pressure vacates, which is where Gabe should be, he was not 

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Again, and certainly not blaming Allen, I believe it was an option route. It seemed like the d back was inside leverage so Davis going outside, would have been a wide open td. 
 

I don’t listen to postgame but would love to hear the actual players and coach talk about what happened there. 

[thewookie1]

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:03 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

Again, and certainly not blaming Allen, I believe it was an option route. It seemed like the d back was inside leverage so Davis going outside, would have been a wide open td. 
 

I don’t listen to postgame but would love to hear the actual players and coach talk about what happened there. 

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The D had literally no one center of the field from what I saw on the replay. Gabe got past the DB who had stumbled and due to the blitz, the Eagles had 1 guy spying about 2 yards off the line.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Watched the play again. I think Allen is the one that made the wrong read.

 

[MrEpsYtown]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:58 AM, MikePJ76 said:

The d back had his back turned.  He was beat no matter where davis went, the play has a built in option if the safety vacates the area and there is pressure.

 

it was obvious as it gets, the eagles brought pressure, Allen has no time to wait for a corner route, with pressure and the safety out of the middle and the corner with his back turned the ball goes inside.  Every damn time.  

 

its no different than tight ends who run dig routes and the break goes to where they have leverage or an inside wr breaking off a route to a quick slant because of pressure leaving the middle of the field wide open.

 

It was elementary stuff.  That is why the damn option is built into those plays, for that exact situation.  As soon as allen snapped the ball and he saw pressure, the safety moved and the corners back to him he did what he was supposed to do.

 

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This is 100% the correct answer

[Jerry Jabber]

  On 11/27/2023 at 3:41 AM, Virgil said:

Dude is holding onto the past harder than Baby Billy 

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When I called out Davis in the offseason, those were some of the replies I got. Still gotta laugh at those 😂

 

Davis is what he is, a limited WR that can only run three routes and has inconsistent hands. There’s no way Davis should have been the Bills #2 WR for two years in a row. 

[cgg716]

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:03 PM, C.Biscuit97 said:

Again, and certainly not blaming Allen, I believe it was an option route. It seemed like the d back was inside leverage so Davis going outside, would have been a wide open td. 
 

I don’t listen to postgame but would love to hear the actual players and coach talk about what happened there. 

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But the DB isn't the read, the safety is

[MikePJ76]

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:27 PM, cgg716 said:

But the DB isn't the read, the safety is

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not to mention he had no leverage.  He was beat at the snap of the ball and was chasing davis with his back turned.

That is a recipe for a td or a PI.  The broncos did it to buffalo two weeks ago and got a cheap PI and ended up winning the game on that drive.

 

People keep using the word leverage and they are confusing it with position.  The db basically was beat and turned and was chasing. If davis goes inside he has an easy catch looking right at the ball and the d back is again, chasing with his back turned and would probably commit a PI or just be flat out late.

 

anyway, whatever I guess.

[Doc]

  On 11/27/2023 at 11:21 AM, CNYfan said:

I have loved Gabe, but the drop that led to the interception in the Denver game was when I thought - "I don't think the Bills should give this guy his next contract".  

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They won't.  Hopefully someone is dumb enough to give him a huge one for the comp pick...

Edited November 27, 2023 by Doc

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

  On 11/27/2023 at 2:31 PM, Doc said:

 

They won't.  Hopefully someone gives him a huge one for the comp pick...

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With the money that gets thrown at #2 WRs the Bills just can't afford and should not attempt to bring him back

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I think Gabe would’ve accepted blame if he made the wrong read.

[NoSaint]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:58 AM, oldmanfan said:

I wonder if Gabe was the hot read, or was it elsewhere.

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in this case, I use the terminology loosely for ease of typing and communicating concepts. He almost certainly needed to read the blitz and vacated center of the field. It would be surprising if he got that one right 

[Allen2Moulds]

  On 11/27/2023 at 1:18 AM, Alphadawg7 said:

Davis was at fault, he knew it and even reacted to his own mistake on the sideline.  It’s also why so many players went to console him.  It’s not a question of who was on fault 

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Yup. I will also add, that the safety bailed, and the middle of the field was completely open. Should've been an easy read and easy TD. I hate to say it, but it was beyond dumb by Gabe.