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Just now, ILBillsfan said:

The bad read on the zero blitz really hurt …… probably 90% of WR’s know the route is to the inside there where the blitzers vacated

The corner had more leverage to the inside.  Josh was rushed and had to get the ball out.  He made a call, Davis made a call.

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42 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Yeah he is a dumb player, I don't know a more respectful way to say it.

 

If we had signed DeAndre Hopkins in the offseason I think we would have a minimum of 3 more wins right now. Brandon Beane completely failed his franchise's biggest investment.


if we signed Hopkins, Floyd would be gone which also would’ve hurt. 
 

that said, Davis hurts to watch and the idea he got a game ball on zero targets is awful.

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SoCal Deek laughs at my comment that the corner had more leverage inside.  Both the WR and QB had to make a judgment.  Neither was right or wrong.  And we don’t come as close as we did today without Davis and his effort.

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47 minutes ago, Virgil said:

I don’t know if this can be statistically looked up, but how many times this season has there been an incorrect route run, where Josh throws the ball to nowhere, and Gabe was the intended receiver.   
 

I don’t care about the 13 second game or how many yards and TD he has.  On this one topic, is it disproportionately Gabe Davis vs everyone else?  
 

It definitely feels that way 

His career as a Bill will be over in 5 games.  I’m not even going to get worked up about him.  Season is over anyways. 

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1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

The corner had more leverage to the inside.  Josh was rushed and had to get the ball out.  He made a call, Davis made a call.


the zero blitz not the leverage is very likely the read there though. Think of a hot read coming before a downfield read like that.

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Just now, NoSaint said:


the zero blitz not the leverage is very likely the read there though. Think of a hot read coming before a downfield read like that.

I wonder if Gabe was the hot read, or was it elsewhere.

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36 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yeah because Allen never makes dumb plays. Prety messed up to call a guy dumb when you have no idea who was at fault. Davis was wide open and the d back was playing inside. 

The d back had his back turned.  He was beat no matter where davis went, the play has a built in option if the safety vacates the area and there is pressure.

 

it was obvious as it gets, the eagles brought pressure, Allen has no time to wait for a corner route, with pressure and the safety out of the middle and the corner with his back turned the ball goes inside.  Every damn time.  

 

its no different than tight ends who run dig routes and the break goes to where they have leverage or an inside wr breaking off a route to a quick slant because of pressure leaving the middle of the field wide open.

 

It was elementary stuff.  That is why the damn option is built into those plays, for that exact situation.  As soon as allen snapped the ball and he saw pressure, the safety moved and the corners back to him he did what he was supposed to do.

 

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1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

if we signed Hopkins, Floyd would be gone which also would’ve hurt. 

 

I think we could have signed both. Harty, Ford, Hines, Poyer. Those are the albatross contracts. And I know we would have had to sell out a bit on our future to fit Hopkins in. But now here we are having a conversation about cleaning house anyways. So we took no risk and got no gain out it.

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At that point in the game why not burn a time out and discuss the zero blitz? That is bad coaching, you have their back against the wall why rush to make a bad call when you can win the game… it’s so sickening.

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2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

SoCal Deek laughs at my comment that the corner had more leverage inside.  Both the awards and QB had to make a judgment.  Neither was right or wrong.  And we don’t come as close as we did today without Davis and his effort.

Oldman….you know I respect you….but football is a complicated game. Gabe screwed up! He knew it. Josh knew it. Romo knew it. Diggs knew it. 

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5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

The corner had more leverage to the inside.  Josh was rushed and had to get the ball out.  He made a call, Davis made a call.

the corner had no leverage.  He was beat with his back turned.  His best bet would have been to run directly into davis had davis made the correct adjustment and get a PI.  

 

Davis blew it and then McDermotts defense blew it again.  

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Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Oldman….you know I respect you….but football is a complicated game. Gabe screwed up! He knew it. Josh knew it. Romo knew it. Diggs knew it. 

No we don’t know that.

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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

I think we could have signed both. Harty, Ford, Hines, Poyer. Those are the albatross contracts. And I know we would have had to sell out a bit on our future to fit Hopkins in. But now here we are having a conversation about cleaning house anyways. So we took no risk and got no gain out it.


The Harty contract was, and continues to be, a terrible signing 

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1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

I think we could have signed both. Harty, Ford, Hines, Poyer. Those are the albatross contracts. And I know we would have had to sell out a bit on our future to fit Hopkins in. But now here we are having a conversation about cleaning house anyways. So we took no risk and got no gain out it.

 

I mean, yea, I’m among the biggest advocates of being able to kick the can. 
 

That said, I was commenting from a practical matter on what was within the realm of this regimes decision tree

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Just now, MikePJ76 said:

the corner had no leverage.  He was beat with his back turned.  His best bet would have been to run directly into davis had davis made the correct adjustment and get a PI.  

 

Davis blew it and then McDermotts defense blew it again.  

He was a step or two behind and to the inside.  A throw to the inside brings him more into the play.  
 

That play could have won the game.  But it didn’t lose the game.

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