***** Icing the Kicker

[Kwai San]

Yet again McClappy screws us again!!!!

[WEATHER DOT COM]

He is the ultimate loser 

[CircleTheWagons99]

That was a catch by diggs. Knee was already down. Happened to Bills vs i dont remeber. 

[MattM]

31 minutes ago, Kwai San said:

Yet again McClappy screws us again!!!!

Absolutely brutal. Why the heck do you do that when he's got a 60 yarder. Make him kick it in a rush.

 

Idiotic. A fireable offense, in my opinion, especially after he due the exact same thing vs the Broncos just 2 weeks ago.

[nedboy7]

Some real bad decisions by McDork.  I cant handle these Sundays anymore. 

[May Day 10]

Yeah, I think it's better for the kicker to call a time out in that situation.  They did him a favor

[NickelCity]

We didn't even ice him. Called it early. 

 

But who are we kidding we knew we'd lose.

[CapeBreton]

It would be cool to have a coach who wasn’t a complete idiot at crunch time. This guy crumbles under pressure. 

[since79]

7 minutes ago, MattM said:

Absolutely brutal. Why the heck do you do that when he's got a 60 yarder. Make him kick it in a rush.

 

Idiotic. A fireable offense, in my opinion, especially after he due the exact same thing vs the Broncos just 2 weeks ago.

How about knocking the ball loose on the third down play.  Well short of the first down to keep the clock running.  They would have really needed to rush the kick.  Stop clock let’s them settle some the we call a time out to give the kicker a few more swipes on the sideline in preparation.  
 

[wppete]

It didn’t make any sense. They were rushing to get on the field and set up. McDermott gave them time to settle down. Once again McDermott thinks he is the smartest guy in the room. The arrogance is off the charts. 

[Nextmanup]

47 minutes ago, Kwai San said:

Yet again McClappy screws us again!!!!

It's just such classic, stupid, idiotic, McDermott football.

 

I'm SO SICK OF THIS GUY WASTING JOSH'S CAREER.

 

Pegula, PLEASE, do something THIS YEAR.

 

 

[Buffarukus]

13 minutes ago, MattM said:

Absolutely brutal. Why the heck do you do that when he's got a 60 yarder. Make him kick it in a rush.

 

Idiotic. A fireable offense, in my opinion, especially after he due the exact same thing vs the Broncos just 2 weeks ago.

 

The idiot coaches need extra time to count to 11. 

[Livinginthepast]

3 minutes ago, since79 said:

How about knocking the ball loose on the third down play.  Well short of the first down to keep the clock running.  They would have really needed to rush the kick.  Stop clock let’s them settle some the we call a time out to give the kicker a few more swipes on the sideline in preparation.  
 

Thats one of the first times in the game  (and one of the few times this season) where our pass defense did that on a pass despite several possible chances and of course it was the best outcome for Philly! Why because even when we succeed we fail ! because we are the Bills!

[eSJayDee]

The only reason to do it is to make sure you don't F%##% up & have 12 men on the field giving them a potential 2nd try from 5 yds closer.  :DOH:

[RiotAct]

meh, probably would have still knelt it down even with 2 timeouts.  Plus, the Eagles kicker still would have made the FG, I have no doubt in my mind.

[Punch]

In this situation, he should've been thinking ahead to save the timeout for the final 20 seconds. I don't know the exact numbers, but I imagine in most instances the opposing coach will call a TO to ice the kicker, regardless of the fact I don't think statistics bear out its effectiveness.

[Jerome007]

4 minutes ago, Punch said:

In this situation, he should've been thinking ahead to save the timeout for the final 20 seconds. I don't know the exact numbers, but I imagine in most instances the opposing coach will call a TO to ice the kicker, regardless of the fact I don't think statistics bear out its effectiveness.

While it can , rarely, make sense, not here. Not when they have to rush to make a 59 yarder in the rain! Don't give them time to settle down. WTF! Not rocket science here.

[mannc]

2 hours ago, Kwai San said:

Yet again McClappy screws us again!!!!

It's a joke of a tactic that never works in the NFL, but it's all McDermott's got.  For him, it passes as high level strategery, along with bringing out the offense to run the "hard count" on 4th and 2 from the 50, taking a delay of game, then punting the ball into the end-zone. Loser.   

Edited November 27, 2023 by mannc

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Punch said:

In this situation, he should've been thinking ahead to save the timeout for the final 20 seconds. I don't know the exact numbers, but I imagine in most instances the opposing coach will call a TO to ice the kicker, regardless of the fact I don't think statistics bear out its effectiveness.

I’m with you.  I get the idea of letting the ball sit there and get wet.  But two timeouts and the ball at the 25 with roughly 20 seconds left can definitely get you into FG range.   Might even work with less than 20 seconds.  Like, say, 13 seconds. 

Edited November 27, 2023 by SectionC3

[Mark Vader]

3 hours ago, since79 said:

How about knocking the ball loose on the third down play.  Well short of the first down to keep the clock running.  They would have really needed to rush the kick.  Stop clock let’s them settle some the we call a time out to give the kicker a few more swipes on the sideline in preparation.  
 

Can't blame Poyer or the defense for doing what they are supposed to do in that situation.