Who’s the best QB prospect in the ‘24 draft class?

[bills6969]

This is the most loaded QB class that I can remember:

 

Caleb Williams

Drake Maye

Michael Penix

Bo Nix

Jayden Daniels

JJ McCarthy

Shadeur Sanders

Quinn Ewers

Dillon Gabriel

Sam Hartman

 

Tons of potential franchise QBs on this list. Unfortunately the Pats are going to get one of the guys at the top.

 

IMO,  Bo Nix will be the best of the bunch.  I also like Penix, he has a cannon.

[coloradobillsfan]

I'm going to hijack this thread just to mention that Division II Colorado School of Mines quarterback John Matocha is pretty darn good.  I just got back from my 4th game of the season, and in every one he has exhibited composure and talent.  He recently broke Case Keenum's all time NCAAF record for total touchdowns.  CSM hasn't had a player drafted since 1940 (aside from a 9th round kicker in '75) so we're hoping someone will give him a shot  

[Mark Vader]

2 hours ago, coloradobillsfan said:

I'm going to hijack this thread just to mention that Division II Colorado School of Mines quarterback John Matocha is pretty darn good.  I just got back from my 4th game of the season, and in every one he has exhibited composure and talent.  He recently broke Case Keenum's all time NCAAF record for total touchdowns.  CSM hasn't had a player drafted since 1940 (aside from a 9th round kicker in '75) so we're hoping someone will give him a shot  

Good to know.

 

Maybe he'll get an invite to the Shrine Game and/or the Senior Bowl. Would be good to see him play.

[Bill from NYC]

I haven't seen enough of many of them to say who is the best prospect, but I must say that Jayden Daniels looks GREAT. He is a sharp passer with a strong arm and he can run, and throw on the run.

[BBFL]

14 hours ago, coloradobillsfan said:

I'm going to hijack this thread just to mention that Division II Colorado School of Mines quarterback John Matocha is pretty darn good.  I just got back from my 4th game of the season, and in every one he has exhibited composure and talent.  He recently broke Case Keenum's all time NCAAF record for total touchdowns.  CSM hasn't had a player drafted since 1940 (aside from a 9th round kicker in '75) so we're hoping someone will give him a shot  

Torn as to whether or not Caleb Williams will succeed in the NFL. He’s had some really rough games against mediocre teams, has an ego this year that’s above everybody and any situation he said he’ll find himself in; confidence is one thing but his comments have been brazen with no accountability. 
 

Overall, going into the draft, it’s a loaded class for QBs. 
 

Maye is great at getting the ball downfield but misses some easy throws in the short game, that can be schemed and play called for him to succeed more. Kid is also an awesome runner and seems to dominate there when he does. 
 

Penix Jr., very similar to Maye in those regards but seems to process his reads quicker. 
 

Daniels is a wild card, dude is a great mobile quarterback who’s shown amazing progression over the past few years. Still a project but has the arm talent to spread the ball anywhere on the field. 

 

The rest, I haven’t watched enough football over the past few years to give any opinion. 
 

but if I’m taking a QB I’d got for Maye, Daniels, Williams in that order. 

[FireChans]

this class is going to be a case study of “does staying in school 6 years make you a better NFLQB”

[Liberal Bob]

Don't forget Spencer Rattler S Carolina. His numbers are not great due to a poor line in front of him but he can throw and run. He was the number 1 qb prospect coming out of high school.

[May Day 10]

I think this is a great class if you are a team with a lower/middle pick.  It is a deep class, but I don't see any blue chip top, cant miss QBs now that the  luster has fallen off of Williams.   .  Actually reminds me a bit of the Darnold/Mayfield/Allen/Jackson/Rudolph/Rosen class. 

 

I think it will come down to who gets selected into good situations, and they get insulated with good coaching and an offense that puts him in a position to succeed.

 

[Buffalo716]

10 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

I think this is a great class if you are a team with a lower/middle pick.  It is a deep class, but I don't see any blue chip top, cant miss QBs now that the  luster has fallen off of Williams.   .  Actually reminds me a bit of the Darnold/Mayfield/Allen/Jackson/Rudolph/Rosen class. 

 

I think it will come down to who gets selected into good situations, and they get insulated with good coaching and an offense that puts him in a position to succeed.

 

I don't know why people are saying the luster has fallen off Williams LOL

 

He is literally USC's team... Is carrying them and actually has better stats than last year in areas

 

A better rating, a higher completion percentage,  and better yards per attempt

 

On a weaker team

 

11.9 attempts per TD last year, 12.9 this year ... Basically the same 

 

He just hasn't thrown 500 times this season 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Buffalo716

[mannc]

On 11/28/2023 at 12:22 PM, Buffalo716 said:

I don't know why people are saying the luster has fallen off Williams LOL

 

He is literally USC's team... Is carrying them and actually has better stats than last year in areas

 

A better rating, a higher completion percentage,  and better yards per attempt

 

On a weaker team

 

11.9 attempts per TD last year, 12.9 this year ... Basically the same 

 

He just hasn't thrown 500 times this season 

Watch him play.  He holds on to the ball forever and he turns it over a lot, just like another recent QB bust from USC.

[Buffalo716]

4 hours ago, mannc said:

Watch him play.  He holds on to the ball forever and he turns it over a lot, just like another recent QB bust from USC.

That's a product of his defense giving up 38 points a game

 

You can't dink and dunk down the field for 40 a game

 

Giving up five yard completions to push the ball down the field is part of the game plan...

 

he can easily take a check down if he wants and he's nothing like darnold

 

There's a reason why scouts are comparing him to a mahomes and Allen skill set... He's built for the modern NFL

 

he's definitely better than CJ Stroud

 

And he's literally playing Superman because Riley can't put a competent team around him .. something that CJ Stroud or Bryce young or Tua or Burrow didn't have to do... 

 

Hes used to having to do everything... Like Allen... There's not one college quarterback with as much on their shoulders as he has

 

I've watched him play a bunch hence why I've said he's the number one quarterback since he was a freshman at Oklahoma

 

He would have been the number one pick unquestioned last year

 

He has a stronger arm than Joe burrow... He could extend a play like Josh Allen... Throws on the run like Josh... Breaks sack attempts in and outside the pocket... Throws a tight spiral and a very catchable ball... And does more with less than his peers... 

 

He's under more scrutiny than any quarterback since Peyton Manning... 

 

I went to the high school All-American game years ago to watch Trevor Lawrence as a scout.... He was the best 17-year-old quarterback I had ever seen

 

But he had the team and the people around him to help alleviate the pressure... Caleb is literally playing with the world on his shoulders which a college athlete shouldn't have to do

 

The pressure the University and fans are putting on him is more than any player I've seen since Peyton Manning

 

 

 

 

Edited December 1, 2023 by Buffalo716

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Just based solely off tonight’s game:

 

Penix can spin it from the pocket. Although I wonder what he would look like without guys running wide open and good pass pro. Doesn’t seem to have that natural ability to create. 
 

I don’t see anything elite from him. 
 

 

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

Just based solely off tonight’s game:

 

Penix can spin it from the pocket. Although I wonder what he would look like without guys running wide open and good pass pro. Doesn’t seem to have that natural ability to create. 
 

I don’t see anything elite from him. 
 

 

Penix is also a 6th year senior ....

 

He is gonna get drafted top 4 rounds but he has severe injury history 

[YoloinOhio]

Prolly Daniels. 

[BuffaloRebound]

Not a big fan of Penix.  I like Nix, but not sure he does anything elite.  

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

Not a big fan of Penix.  I like Nix, but not sure he does anything elite.  

Both are prototypical college QBs 

 

Very nuanced in their system..  good at a lot of things , not great at anything

 

Alot of average traits ... But developable

 

I wouldn't take a first on them but they have developmental ability 

[BuffaloRebound]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Both are prototypical college QBs 

 

Very nuanced in their system..  good at a lot of things , not great at anything

 

Alot of average traits ... But developable

 

I wouldn't take a first on them but they have developmental ability 

I actually think Penix has the physical traits to be an NFL starter.  Just something off about him to me.  Not sure why doesn’t use his legs more.  It’s like he’s trying too hard  to prove he’s a pocket passer.  But I thought same thing about Hurts coming out of college and now he’s one of best QB’s in NFL.  

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said:

I actually think Penix has the physical traits to be an NFL starter.  Just something off about him to me.  Not sure why doesn’t use his legs more.  It’s like he’s trying too hard  to prove he’s a pocket passer.  But I thought same thing about Hurts coming out of college and now he’s one of best QB’s in NFL.  

Probably because penix has a terrible injury history 

 

Torn 2 acls with a bad shoulder surgery

 

He has been in college forever 

[Simon]

I'd guess Jayden Daniels.

Tyler Shough was going to be my sleeper pick until he broke his leg early and decided to play another year.

 

[4merper4mer]

On 11/30/2023 at 8:16 PM, mannc said:

Watch him play.  He holds on to the ball forever and he turns it over a lot, just like another recent QB bust from USC.

I know time flies and all and I hate to be the one to break it to you but Rob Johnson wasn’t ll that recent.