JohnNord Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Oh I 100 percent agree . They need to upgrade at WR2 next year for sure And they will. WR2 was the biggest question going into the offseason. I don’t think it happened for a few reasons. First the Bills love Gabe and truly had hoped his inconsistent 2022 was related to the ankle injury. Second, they knew the team was likely out of range to land one of the top WR’s in the draft. Third, the team had limited cap space and needs at a few positions. They thought money was better spent on a player like McGovern. Basically they put a lot of faith in Gabe to take the next step it never happened. 1 1 1 Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 I prefer my WR’s to actually get yards and TD’s. We could put a lineman or TE out there if we are only concerned with blocking. 2 Quote
PBF81 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 minute ago, foreboding said: True. But reality is you can fire/demote a mid -round drafted wr alot easier than your hc...and Davis does drop alot of balls. Not the point. The point is the support for both. Imagine the story on Davis if we go on to win the SB that season. But McD has plenty of support, and he was the reason for the loss. He undid a great game by Davis and hasn't done anything otherwise in the playoffs. Yet, he's got quite a bit of support. Meanwhile, Davis, a second WR, not even a first or primary, takes a beating, while many of the same people support McD. Quote
JohnNord Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, PBF81 said: That perception would have been a whole lot different had we beaten KC in that game and gone on to the Super Bowl, likely to have won that. Funny, the support for McD who prevented that, but the hammering that Davis takes, who's the only reason we were in that game. This is changing the subject. The point was that fans expected to see more performances from Gabe like 13 seconds. He’s made some nice plays and had a few big games since but largely has been the same inconsistent receiver throughout his career 1 Quote
PBF81 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 Just now, JohnNord said: This is changing the subject. The point was that fans expected to see more performances from Gabe like 13 seconds. He’s made some nice plays and had a few big games since but largely has been the same inconsistent receiver throughout his career It wasn't changing my subject. That's the point I originally made. If you want to argue something else, then fine, but that's the point I made. Quote
BillsFan130 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, JohnNord said: And they will. WR2 was the biggest question going into the offseason. I don’t think it happened for a few reasons. First the Bills love Gabe and truly had hoped his inconsistent 2022 was related to the ankle injury. Second, they knew the team was likely out of range to land one of the top WR’s in the draft. Third, the team had limited cap space and needs at a few positions. They thought money was better spent on a player like McGovern. Basically they put a lot of faith in Gabe to take the next step it never happened. Ya i do wish they addressed it more in the off season. Although I know it’s tough. WRs are expensive and bills drafted Kincaid in the 1st Quote
oldmanfan Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 I can believe the new OC that has coached for years, or I can believe guys on a message board that may have topped out as high school players. Hmm… Think I’ll believe the coach. 3 2 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 Robert woods with a gray blocker, and he still caught the ball 2 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Governor said: Yeah and Tremaine Edmunds was an excellent LB. Yes. He was. 1 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: I prefer my WR’s to actually get yards and TD’s. We could put a lineman or TE out there if we are only concerned with blocking. Aside from his one legendary game, Gabe has been disappointing and inconsistent. And he's having a mediocre contract year. My WR2 needs to produce and I don't mean as a blocker. That ridiculous drop in the Denver game was the last straw. I want him phased out and wish him the best with another team. Maybe someday we'll actually field 2 competent wrs? 1 Quote
uninja Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 I see Gabe Davis as our Danny Amendola, rarely pops on the stat sheet, has a good game here and there and just has playoff games where you're like 'brah where you been this whole year?!' Quote
JaCrispy Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) The coaches are just probably trying to give Gabe some love because they know how much the media and fans have been ripping him… They probably just really like the guy because he’s a nice guy and a good teammate- similar to Trumaine… But like with Edmunds, they probably don’t like him enough to not upgrade the position- especially after how much McD praised the Eagles offense and all their weapons… I respect it, but it’s likely all just “coach speak”… Edited November 25, 2023 by JaCrispy 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Lost said: Having a WR2 whos only good quality blocking isnt gonna cut it. That's not is only good quality. He's terribly inconsistent. He makes big plays and difficult catches. He gets open for Allen when he scrambles. 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 1 hour ago, PBF81 said: Not the point. The point is the support for both. Imagine the story on Davis if we go on to win the SB that season. But McD has plenty of support, and he was the reason for the loss. He undid a great game by Davis and hasn't done anything otherwise in the playoffs. Yet, he's got quite a bit of support. Meanwhile, Davis, a second WR, not even a first or primary, takes a beating, while many of the same people support McD. Again, McD was not the reason for that loss. There is zero reason to think so. Levi Wallace made it plain they called the right play on D, but that the communication between himself and Poyer broke down and that resulted in that big hole for Kelce. It really was a great game by Davis and of course by Allen as well. I love what Brady said here. Clearly Davis wasn't the MVP, but equally he's doing a lot that goes under the radar and Brady is pointing that out and keeping the team together by spreading the praise. Good for him 3 1 1 Quote
billsfan89 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, JohnNord said: And they will. WR2 was the biggest question going into the offseason. I don’t think it happened for a few reasons. First the Bills love Gabe and truly had hoped his inconsistent 2022 was related to the ankle injury. Second, they knew the team was likely out of range to land one of the top WR’s in the draft. Third, the team had limited cap space and needs at a few positions. They thought money was better spent on a player like McGovern. Basically they put a lot of faith in Gabe to take the next step it never happened. I would suspect that Gabe will get priced out and the Bills would be wise to let him walk (take the comp pick and try to retain a defensive free agent with that money like AJE). The Bills would then be wise to spend a 1st rounder at WR to replace Gabe and given that Diggs will be 31 next season have an heir apparent ready long term (having Shakir, Kincaid and a rookie as the young guns with Diggs as the vet). 31 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Again, McD was not the reason for that loss. There is zero reason to think so. Levi Wallace made it plain they called the right play on D, but that the communication between himself and Poyer broke down and that resulted in that big hole for Kelce. It really was a great game by Davis and of course by Allen as well. I love what Brady said here. Clearly Davis wasn't the MVP, but equally he's doing a lot that goes under the radar and Brady is pointing that out and keeping the team together by spreading the praise. Good for him I like Brady trying to get a pivotal player (like or hate Gabe but the team needs at least some solid production from him) some kudos for doing the dirty work (blocking and run routes both things Gabe is good at) that doesn’t get on the stat sheet. I think this is a sign that Brady thinks holistically and he knows going into some tougher games he is going to need Gabe to have a bigger receiving impact and continue to do the dirty work as well. 1 Quote
Virgil Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 Driving up the that comp pick value Brady out there playing chess 2 Quote
Rockinon Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 This is a very underrated skill. Gabe happens to be excellent at it. His 1st couple of years as a number 3 WR, that's what he did....block. The result was big seasons for other reciever such as Brown, Beasley, Diggs and Knox. While he was busy doing all the dirty work, defenses pretty much forgot about him. Then Josh began feeding him the ball, with fantastic results. Hopefully, this can be duplicated. One of the things that has infuriated me this season is all of the forced throws to Diggs. Perhaps this method of getting the ball to other pass catchers, using Gabe in a way he obviously excels, is just the ticket. This offense is really good especially when Josh is spreading the ball around. Gabe makes that easier to do and it should not be underestimated. Just my two cent.... Quote
Shaw66 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 14 hours ago, JohnNord said: WR2 was the biggest question going into the offseason. No. Middle linebacker and offensive line were the two biggest questions, and the Bills seem to have gotten both correct. 3 1 Quote
Toyo321 Posted November 25, 2023 Posted November 25, 2023 13 hours ago, uninja said: I see Gabe Davis as our Danny Amendola, rarely pops on the stat sheet, has a good game here and there and just has playoff games where you're like 'brah where you been this whole year?!' Gabe will never be as good as Amendola was. Amendola was always clutch for Brady and that is never going to be what Gabe is to Josh. Quote
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