OrangeBills Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 12 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: The left supports dudes that start stabbing kids? That's how this works now? Btw. If that heroic teacher, then unarmed civilians didn't stop him. What would have stopped him from stabbing more? He would have felt constrained by societal norms? That's what I keep hearing from the (clueless) Biden Administration about just about everything The Pacification of America has spread to Europe (or, more likely, they've adopted the same view) 1
Irv Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, OrangeBills said: He would have felt constrained by societal norms? That's what I keep hearing from the (clueless) Biden Administration about just about everything The Pacification of America has spread to Europe (or, more likely, they've adopted the same view) Didn't Biden go over to Ireland a little while back and fell asleep there too? Biden botches another promoting this bull####. Has blood on his hands all over the planet due to his incompetence. What a mess.
BillsFanNC Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 But we're taking away freedoms for the common good! Well in that case.......no need to explain anything else.. We're now at the stage where commies tell you out in the open that they're gonna commie things up. Useful idiots still nod along, blissfully unaware that they too will soon be eaten by their comrades in power. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted November 27, 2023 Author Posted November 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: But we're taking away freedoms for the common good! Well in that case.......no need to explain anything else.. We're now at the stage where commies tell you out in the open that they're gonna commie things up. Useful idiots still nod along, blissfully unaware that they too will soon be eaten by their comrades in power. So she is referencing the terrorist that just started stabbing kids as not being for the common good?
B-Man Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 The cry of the leftists everywhere. (including PPP) 1
BillsFanNC Posted November 27, 2023 Posted November 27, 2023 🎯 But they'll never come for us...we're on the same side! Right, useful idiots? 2
Tommy Callahan Posted November 27, 2023 Author Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) France Edited November 27, 2023 by Tommy Callahan 1
Tommy Callahan Posted November 29, 2023 Author Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) Imagine if our government called black lives matter racist and criminal. Edited November 29, 2023 by Tommy Callahan 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 "Restricting freedom for the common good." What a radical notion. Radical when Thomas Hobbes thought of it in 1651, that is. Hobbes would be quite surprised to find that he is now a Marxist, at least according to some of the usual suspects right here. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted November 29, 2023 Author Posted November 29, 2023 It's kind of interesting how Ireland is having these troubles. When Ireland is the HQ for some of the largest US companies. a few of the S&P7
K D Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 The people will need to rise up and overthrow the government. We have done it before and it's going to have to happen again. People should not be scared of their government, the government should be scared of the people! 2
Orlando Buffalo Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: "Restricting freedom for the common good." What a radical notion. Radical when Thomas Hobbes thought of it in 1651, that is. Hobbes would be quite surprised to find that he is now a Marxist, at least according to some of the usual suspects right here. Taking away freedoms so government can lie is not a new concept. It has been done for at least several hundred years, and the same dolts keep supporting it. I think you thought this post was clever but it shows either a complete ignorance of history or complete ignorance of what Ireland is proposing. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted November 29, 2023 Posted November 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: Taking away freedoms so government can lie is not a new concept. It has been done for at least several hundred years, and the same dolts keep supporting it. I think you thought this post was clever but it shows either a complete ignorance of history or complete ignorance of what Ireland is proposing. There is nothing here about "lying." In fact, our commenters were shocked (shocked!) by the very concept of restricting freedoms for the common good. I'm just pointing out that that is the core of the idea of government. The devil is in the details of course - which freedoms, and in what way, and for what sense of the common good? Hobbes in the 17th century thought you needed an absolute monarch to restrict freedoms and impose order. Needless to say, he was not in favor of a dictatorship of the proletariat; he was no Marxist.
Orlando Buffalo Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: There is nothing here about "lying." In fact, our commenters were shocked (shocked!) by the very concept of restricting freedoms for the common good. I'm just pointing out that that is the core of the idea of government. The devil is in the details of course - which freedoms, and in what way, and for what sense of the common good? Hobbes in the 17th century thought you needed an absolute monarch to restrict freedoms and impose order. Needless to say, he was not in favor of a dictatorship of the proletariat; he was no Marxist. Are you trying to be clever or are you simply unaware of the Nazi and Communist destruction of any other messaging? Your history lesson is bizarre and completely off point, what Hobbes believed is unrelated to this topic except for in the most vague sense. Irelands government is trying to arrest people for nothing more than being pissed off over children being stabbed, what would Hobbes think of the government?
OrangeBills Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/26/2023 at 9:19 PM, Irv said: Didn't Biden go over to Ireland a little while back and fell asleep there too? Biden botches another promoting this bull####. Has blood on his hands all over the planet due to his incompetence. What a mess. It's not "Biden" He's merely a symptom. Unfortunately, as predicted by historians (because it happens throughout history), civilizations eventually become soft, forget what "got them there", then succumb to a Leftist slide into self-destruction (that is categorized miscorrectly as being conquered but that's not right). Biden is a symptom. The American and Global Left are the problem. Unequivocally. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted November 30, 2023 Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: or are you simply unaware of the Nazi and Communist destruction of any other messaging I don't even know what this means. People here seemed all hot and bothered about the general notion that governments restrict freedoms in service of the common good. I pointed out that that's what having a government is all about. It's the opposite of anarchy. You want to make it a crime for drag shows to allow teenagers to attend, even if it's with their parents express permission. In other words, you want to restrict the liberty of people to do what they damn well please in service of your idea of the common good.
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