BillsFanNC Posted March 20 Author Posted March 20 Undocumented American Asylum Seekers. Oh, they're not really asylum seekers? Let's just go with Undocumented Americans then. 2
Doc Posted March 20 Posted March 20 2 hours ago, LeviF said: But that’s what I’m saying. “The people” has never meant anything but “citizens of the United States” in the context of the Constitution. You essentially believe that “the people” and “persons” means the same thing, though any fifth grader who has read any 18th century political literature can easily tell you otherwise. Context isn't their strong suit... 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: To avoid Florida, Biden will initiate transportation of Haitians to Mexican border crossing points or directly to the US while leaving American citizens behind to fend for themselves. And I'm not joking. Rather thinking of the dumbest and most absurd thing possible and predicting these clowns will do it. I thought Dems didn't like Haitians?
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 20 Posted March 20 1 minute ago, Doc said: I thought Dems didn't like Haitians? Now they do! 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20 Posted March 20 I wonder if this guy or his followers realize how many guns are in Americans homes. 1
LeviF Posted March 20 Posted March 20 4 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said: I wonder if this guy or his followers realize how many guns are in Americans homes. The first one who gets shot trying to do this will get a statue, state funeral, and the entire weight of the state bearing down on his killer. This is policy for Dems. Btw this guy openly advocating for criminal behavior has 300k followers on TikTok and pro-White content is still banned on that platform.
LeviF Posted March 21 Posted March 21 5 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: The concept of immigration judges and courts is a joke to begin with. ERO should be dumping these people into the Mexican desert without so much as a “how do you do.” 1
BillsFanNC Posted March 21 Author Posted March 21 Remember, it's not an invasion. You're racist if you say it is. 2
daz28 Posted March 21 Posted March 21 On 3/20/2024 at 8:03 AM, LeviF said: But that’s what I’m saying. “The people” has never meant anything but “citizens of the United States” in the context of the Constitution. You essentially believe that “the people” and “persons” means the same thing, though any fifth grader who has read any 18th century political literature can easily tell you otherwise. This isn't about what I "believe', but about the legal terminology. There's lots of discussion recently, but let's go back to the 18 century, and examine. Slaves were 100% NOT citizens, yet they were counted as 3/5 "people" and counted in the census towards representation. This dispels the notion that non-citizens are not "members of the political community" argument, which is probably the leading argument that immigrants aren't "people". If you think this argument is so easy a 5th grader, who can read, can know it, then you haven't done any research on the subject whatsoever.
The Frankish Reich Posted March 21 Posted March 21 6 hours ago, B-Man said: Chinese group, so I'm guessing knockoff counterfeit Canada Goose. But still ... folks I know who work in this field tell me every single new arrival has a smartphone.
LeviF Posted March 22 Posted March 22 2 hours ago, daz28 said: Slaves were 100% NOT citizens, yet they were counted as 3/5 "people" and counted in the census towards representation. It literally doesn’t say that.
daz28 Posted March 22 Posted March 22 14 minutes ago, LeviF said: It literally doesn’t say that. Do you even research anything: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. Now ask yourself what did the 14th Amendment do: It gave slaves full citizenship.
LeviF Posted March 22 Posted March 22 (edited) 4 hours ago, daz28 said: Do you even research anything: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. Now ask yourself what did the 14th Amendment do: It gave slaves full citizenship. Now ask yourself why the 14th amendment needed to grant these persons citizenship. You fail to both distinguish between the Constitution’s usage of “people” and “persons” and understand why those words were chosen in each instance. For example the first paragraph of Article 1 Section 2 vs the paragraph you quoted above. Edited March 22 by LeviF
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