BillsFanNC Posted March 20, 2024 Author Posted March 20, 2024 Undocumented American Asylum Seekers. Oh, they're not really asylum seekers? Let's just go with Undocumented Americans then. 2
Doc Posted March 20, 2024 Posted March 20, 2024 On 3/20/2024 at 12:03 PM, LeviF said: But that’s what I’m saying. “The people” has never meant anything but “citizens of the United States” in the context of the Constitution. You essentially believe that “the people” and “persons” means the same thing, though any fifth grader who has read any 18th century political literature can easily tell you otherwise. Expand Context isn't their strong suit... On 3/20/2024 at 12:32 PM, All_Pro_Bills said: To avoid Florida, Biden will initiate transportation of Haitians to Mexican border crossing points or directly to the US while leaving American citizens behind to fend for themselves. And I'm not joking. Rather thinking of the dumbest and most absurd thing possible and predicting these clowns will do it. Expand I thought Dems didn't like Haitians?
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 20, 2024 Posted March 20, 2024 On 3/20/2024 at 2:13 PM, Doc said: I thought Dems didn't like Haitians? Expand Now they do! 1
BillsFanNC Posted March 20, 2024 Author Posted March 20, 2024 (edited) Edited March 20, 2024 by BillsFanNC 1
Tommy Callahan Posted March 20, 2024 Posted March 20, 2024 I wonder if this guy or his followers realize how many guns are in Americans homes. 1
LeviF Posted March 20, 2024 Posted March 20, 2024 On 3/20/2024 at 5:22 PM, Tommy Callahan said: I wonder if this guy or his followers realize how many guns are in Americans homes. Expand The first one who gets shot trying to do this will get a statue, state funeral, and the entire weight of the state bearing down on his killer. This is policy for Dems. Btw this guy openly advocating for criminal behavior has 300k followers on TikTok and pro-White content is still banned on that platform.
LeviF Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 On 3/21/2024 at 6:11 AM, BillsFanNC said: Expand The concept of immigration judges and courts is a joke to begin with. ERO should be dumping these people into the Mexican desert without so much as a “how do you do.” 1
BillsFanNC Posted March 21, 2024 Author Posted March 21, 2024 Remember, it's not an invasion. You're racist if you say it is. 2
Tommy Callahan Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 Cloward–Piven strategy seems to be the playbook Wth 1
daz28 Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 On 3/20/2024 at 12:03 PM, LeviF said: But that’s what I’m saying. “The people” has never meant anything but “citizens of the United States” in the context of the Constitution. You essentially believe that “the people” and “persons” means the same thing, though any fifth grader who has read any 18th century political literature can easily tell you otherwise. Expand This isn't about what I "believe', but about the legal terminology. There's lots of discussion recently, but let's go back to the 18 century, and examine. Slaves were 100% NOT citizens, yet they were counted as 3/5 "people" and counted in the census towards representation. This dispels the notion that non-citizens are not "members of the political community" argument, which is probably the leading argument that immigrants aren't "people". If you think this argument is so easy a 5th grader, who can read, can know it, then you haven't done any research on the subject whatsoever.
The Frankish Reich Posted March 21, 2024 Posted March 21, 2024 On 3/21/2024 at 3:36 PM, B-Man said: Expand Chinese group, so I'm guessing knockoff counterfeit Canada Goose. But still ... folks I know who work in this field tell me every single new arrival has a smartphone.
LeviF Posted March 22, 2024 Posted March 22, 2024 On 3/21/2024 at 9:38 PM, daz28 said: Slaves were 100% NOT citizens, yet they were counted as 3/5 "people" and counted in the census towards representation. Expand It literally doesn’t say that.
daz28 Posted March 22, 2024 Posted March 22, 2024 On 3/22/2024 at 12:00 AM, LeviF said: It literally doesn’t say that. Expand Do you even research anything: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. Now ask yourself what did the 14th Amendment do: It gave slaves full citizenship.
LeviF Posted March 22, 2024 Posted March 22, 2024 (edited) On 3/22/2024 at 12:19 AM, daz28 said: Do you even research anything: Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. Now ask yourself what did the 14th Amendment do: It gave slaves full citizenship. Expand Now ask yourself why the 14th amendment needed to grant these persons citizenship. You fail to both distinguish between the Constitution’s usage of “people” and “persons” and understand why those words were chosen in each instance. For example the first paragraph of Article 1 Section 2 vs the paragraph you quoted above. Edited March 22, 2024 by LeviF
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