Kelly to Allen Posted Monday at 01:48 AM Posted Monday at 01:48 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: This is probably far-fetched because the left has lost its mind but I have to wonder if this judge purposely gave such an outrageous and ridiculous order that it in essence gave Trump and the executive branch a green light to disobey or at least abstain from what the judiciary was saying. In other words you create a dialectic that's so outrageous in one direction, that when it's disobeyed it has moral legitimacy from the people. this in some sense would empower the executive branch to ignore other aspects of the judiciary because it's so out of control. If the judiciary can be ignored here, it can be ignored on other issues. If you wanted to undermine the judiciary this is exactly the excuse you would create for the executive branch to take more power.... I'm not sure if its fundamentally a good or bad thing because at the end of the day the branches are equal but have different enforcement mechanisms. Edited Monday at 01:50 AM by Kelly to Allen
Kelly to Allen Posted Monday at 02:05 AM Posted Monday at 02:05 AM 3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Omg The Democrats used to believe in Strong Unions Economic nationalism Civil rights for American citizens Strong borders Strong military A very liberal expanded view of free speech And some type of legal rights for gay Americans that wanted to be on the same insurance or whatever. It was also an anti war party They are completely off the rails now. I don't agree with everything on the left but I would beg for the ted Kennedy's of the world to return the Democrats to sanity. I would much rather be debating the school lunch program rather than some lunatic yelling at my kids that maybe they're a different gender It's nuts 1
Roundybout Posted Monday at 12:16 PM Posted Monday at 12:16 PM Trump is now ignoring court orders in his desperate attempt to 1) remove brown people from the country and 2) meet his quota that he’s missed so far. Seems bad!
All_Pro_Bills Posted Monday at 12:36 PM Posted Monday at 12:36 PM (edited) 20 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Trump is now ignoring court orders in his desperate attempt to 1) remove brown people from the country and 2) meet his quota that he’s missed so far. Seems bad! No doubt the circumstances of some of these deportation cases require further investigation. But mixing them together with defending narco-terrorists and foriegn criminal gang organization members isn't going to play well. The 'court order' comes from the same judge that I believe let J6 riot agitator and instigator and government confidential informant Ray Epps off he hook along with giving him an apology from the court for putting him through the stress of a court trial. Edited Monday at 12:37 PM by All_Pro_Bills
Roundybout Posted Monday at 12:45 PM Posted Monday at 12:45 PM 8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: No doubt the circumstances of some of these deportation cases require further investigation. But mixing them together with defending narco-terrorists and foriegn criminal gang organization members isn't going to play well. The 'court order' comes from the same judge that I believe let J6 riot agitator and instigator and government confidential informant Ray Epps off he hook along with giving him an apology from the court for putting him through the stress of a court trial. MAGAs lump all immigrants in with the MS-13 gang members, so it’s definitely going to play well there. The only hope is enough people wake up to figure out that the president ignoring court orders is a de facto dictatorship.
JDHillFan Posted Monday at 12:55 PM Posted Monday at 12:55 PM 37 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Trump is now ignoring court orders in his desperate attempt to 1) remove brown people from the country and 2) meet his quota that he’s missed so far. Seems bad! 10 hours ago, Roundybout said: and you think we are the ones using hyperbole? lol
Roundybout Posted Monday at 01:06 PM Posted Monday at 01:06 PM 11 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: lol You cool with Trump ignoring direct court orders? Very interesting.
IrishLass Posted Monday at 01:15 PM Posted Monday at 01:15 PM 58 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Trump is now ignoring court orders in his desperate attempt to 1) remove brown people from the country and 2) meet his quota that he’s missed so far. Seems bad! I'll bet they need kidney transplants in Lebanon too. Do you have something against Lebanon? 1
BillsFanNC Posted Monday at 01:18 PM Author Posted Monday at 01:18 PM I'm going out on a limb and bet that the good doctor was involved in some of the illegal campus activities with this group... 1
Roundybout Posted Monday at 01:31 PM Posted Monday at 01:31 PM 15 minutes ago, IrishLass said: I'll bet they need kidney transplants in Lebanon too. Do you have something against Lebanon? Trump ignored a direct court order and deported a doctor here with legal documentation. How are you okay with this? 12 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I'm going out on a limb and bet that the good doctor was involved in some of the illegal campus activities with this group... Again, Trump ignored a DIRECT COURT ORDER. That is a dictator move.
All_Pro_Bills Posted Monday at 03:09 PM Posted Monday at 03:09 PM 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Trump ignored a direct court order and deported a doctor here with legal documentation. How are you okay with this? Again, Trump ignored a DIRECT COURT ORDER. That is a dictator move. Its obvious from his past activities this judge is waist deep in Democratic party plans to obstruct the new administration. We all know this is what its about. It will be interesting when the DOJ and FBI, now in the hands of the administration, dig up correspondence and communications linking the judge to other actors like the various legal firms filing these objections where he is the presiding judge and he ruled in their favor while conspiring with the plaintiffs. At a minimum its a clear conflict of interest and most likely a crime.
Kelly to Allen Posted Monday at 03:15 PM Posted Monday at 03:15 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Trump ignored a direct court order and deported a doctor here with legal documentation. How are you okay with this? Again, Trump ignored a DIRECT COURT ORDER. That is a dictator move. United States is a sovereign Nation and can deport any non-citizen for any purpose in which they choose ... What's interesting is I thought you leftists care about American citizens and their jobs?? I also thought leftists really care a lot about black Americans? don't you want that position to be filled by a black Americans? Your mask is off, just like the judge who ordered that terrorists should stay in the country.... It's been reported that half the students at Columbia are foreigners. again these are positions in our academic institutions that can be filled by American citizens. The left can't say" oh we need engineers and doctors" and then simultaneously not appoint American citizens to those positions Edited Monday at 03:17 PM by Kelly to Allen
Roundybout Posted Monday at 03:16 PM Posted Monday at 03:16 PM 7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: It’s obvious from his past activities this judge is waist deep in Democratic party plans to obstruct the new administration. We all know this is what it’s about. It will be interesting when the DOJ and FBI, now in the hands of the administration, dig up correspondence and communications linking the judge to other actors like the various legal firms filing these objections where he is the presiding judge and he ruled in their favor while conspiring with the plaintiffs. At a minimum it’s a clear conflict of interest and most likely a crime. This is a fantastic recipe for a dictatorship. 1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said: United States is a sovereign Nation and can deport any non-citizen for any purpose that which they choose ... What's interesting is I thought you leftists care about American citizens and their jobs?? I also thought leftists really care a lot about black Americans? don't you want that position to be filled by a black American? It's been reported that half the students at Columbia are foreigners. again these are positions in our academic institutions that can be filled by American citizens. The left can't say" oh we need engineers and doctors" and then simultaneously not appoint American citizens to those positions Tough. It’s a global economy. I don’t care if my doctor is from Haiti as long as he’s qualified and certified.
Kelly to Allen Posted Monday at 03:20 PM Posted Monday at 03:20 PM 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: This is a fantastic recipe for a dictatorship. Tough. It’s a global economy. I don’t care if my doctor is from Haiti as long as he’s qualified and certified. Yeah it's such a global economy that everyone wants to come here and invest in the United States lol.... a global economy doesn't mean Western nations don't have sovereignty or should face an invasion lol 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: This is a fantastic recipe for a dictatorship. Tough. It’s a global economy. I don’t care if my doctor is from Haiti as long as he’s qualified and certified. " Qualified" There are millions and millions of qualified American citizens.... Besides if it's really about qualifications and competency then why are these institutions removing the qualifications Make up your mind
Roundybout Posted Monday at 03:22 PM Posted Monday at 03:22 PM 1 minute ago, Kelly to Allen said: Yeah it's such a global economy that everyone wants to come here and invest in the United States lol.... a global economy doesn't mean Western nations don't have sovereignty or should face an invasion lol Again, free migration does not impact a nations sovereignty. You can shriek about it all you want, it’s not 1810 anymore.
Kelly to Allen Posted Monday at 03:27 PM Posted Monday at 03:27 PM (edited) 5 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Again, free migration does not impact a nations sovereignty. You can shriek about it all you want, it’s not 1810 anymore. It can be 300 ad, or 2010 or now. National sovereignty means said people have a moral right to who is in their country If said ppl don't have that right, their political will and existence become compromised. Again this is literally why nations exist. It's why native American tribes have reservations Edited Monday at 03:28 PM by Kelly to Allen
Roundybout Posted Monday at 03:28 PM Posted Monday at 03:28 PM Just now, Kelly to Allen said: It can be 300 ad, or 2010 or now. National sovereignty means said people have a moral right to who is in their country Such as who?
Kelly to Allen Posted Monday at 03:29 PM Posted Monday at 03:29 PM (edited) 1 minute ago, Roundybout said: Such as who? Any people that have a nation. China, France, Zimbabwe, the United States etc Counties exist lol Edited Monday at 03:29 PM by Kelly to Allen
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