JDHillFan Posted Thursday at 11:30 PM Posted Thursday at 11:30 PM 28 minutes ago, daz28 said: Thank you for properly quoting me! That was Biden correcting himself on his own terminology. Why did he feel the need to correct himself? Was there government approved terminology in play, either implicit or explicit?
daz28 Posted Thursday at 11:43 PM Posted Thursday at 11:43 PM 10 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Why did he feel the need to correct himself? Was there government approved terminology in play, either implicit or explicit? I would imagine within departments they prefer to use certain terminology, especially a liberal one. Citizens get to use whatever they want, and that goes both ways.
Orlando Buffalo Posted Friday at 10:05 PM Posted Friday at 10:05 PM This is amazing that once all those illegal aliens started hiding the murder rate went down so much when I have been reliably told that they have lower crime rate than normal Americans. And just to cut off the " it is too cold to go out" I was in NYC in January of 2009 and it was colder then and people were still being murdered. 3
4th&long Posted Friday at 10:11 PM Posted Friday at 10:11 PM 6 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: This is amazing that once all those illegal aliens started hiding the murder rate went down so much when I have been reliably told that they have lower crime rate than normal Americans. And just to cut off the " it is too cold to go out" I was in NYC in January of 2009 and it was colder then and people were still being murdered. What a *****en ass clown. 1
Doc Posted Friday at 10:54 PM Posted Friday at 10:54 PM 49 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: This is amazing that once all those illegal aliens started hiding the murder rate went down so much when I have been reliably told that they have lower crime rate than normal Americans. And just to cut off the " it is too cold to go out" I was in NYC in January of 2009 and it was colder then and people were still being murdered. "This is MAGA country!" Oh wait, wrong city... 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted Saturday at 03:17 AM Posted Saturday at 03:17 AM 5 hours ago, 4th&long said: What a *****en ass clown. You can't seem to actually respond to anything except with childlike insults. If you disagree, or actually have a theory that you would like to present I welcome it. 1
daz28 Posted Saturday at 03:59 AM Posted Saturday at 03:59 AM 5 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: This is amazing that once all those illegal aliens started hiding the murder rate went down so much when I have been reliably told that they have lower crime rate than normal Americans. And just to cut off the " it is too cold to go out" I was in NYC in January of 2009 and it was colder then and people were still being murdered. I can tell you why I thought it was funny, is because no one is hiding ,but I'd also bet no illegals are staying at their 'listed' residences or showing up for work. Hiding? No. Showing up for their court dates? Also no. The NYC police aren't out with mugshots looking for illegals. In fact, they wouldn't even arrest an illegal if they told them they were illegal. ICE ABSOLUTELY does not have resources to do foot patrols, hoping to spot a mugshot on the street. If anything, when the working illegal's, that are now not going to work, resources run out, crime will actually rise. Ice is currently doing raids on the easy, low hanging fruit. The ones who were at what they thought were their homes, the ones who showed up for work and court. The task is going to get SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult fast. If we don't build 'the concentration camps', and very drastically get new resources for ICE, this is never going to work. Even then, I'm not sure it can. What options do they have? Not many? Just my humble opinion, but this concept of a plan we've seen so far isn't even CLOSE to enough to get the job done. Will it even be good enough to get rid of as many to match those entering? 1
4th&long Posted Saturday at 07:21 AM Posted Saturday at 07:21 AM 4 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: You can't seem to actually respond to anything except with childlike insults. If you disagree, or actually have a theory that you would like to present I welcome it. Your takes are so far from reality they are only worth the response I gave you. There is nothing anyone can say that would help you.
Orlando Buffalo Posted Saturday at 12:19 PM Posted Saturday at 12:19 PM 8 hours ago, daz28 said: I can tell you why I thought it was funny, is because no one is hiding ,but I'd also bet no illegals are staying at their 'listed' residences or showing up for work. Hiding? No. Showing up for their court dates? Also no. The NYC police aren't out with mugshots looking for illegals. In fact, they wouldn't even arrest an illegal if they told them they were illegal. ICE ABSOLUTELY does not have resources to do foot patrols, hoping to spot a mugshot on the street. If anything, when the working illegal's, that are now not going to work, resources run out, crime will actually rise. Ice is currently doing raids on the easy, low hanging fruit. The ones who were at what they thought were their homes, the ones who showed up for work and court. The task is going to get SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult fast. If we don't build 'the concentration camps', and very drastically get new resources for ICE, this is never going to work. Even then, I'm not sure it can. What options do they have? Not many? Just my humble opinion, but this concept of a plan we've seen so far isn't even CLOSE to enough to get the job done. Will it even be good enough to get rid of as many to match those entering? 4 hours ago, 4th&long said: Your takes are so far from reality they are only worth the response I gave you. There is nothing anyone can say that would help you. How would you define hiding if not "but I'd also bet no illegals are staying at their 'listed' residences or showing up for work." I will point out to 4th that our only other major interaction was on California wildfires and with every passing day my starter are being shown to be true in the media I read, if there is anything you could show me differently i would be interested.
daz28 Posted Saturday at 09:19 PM Posted Saturday at 09:19 PM 8 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: How would you define hiding if not "but I'd also bet no illegals are staying at their 'listed' residences or showing up for work." I will point out to 4th that our only other major interaction was on California wildfires and with every passing day my starter are being shown to be true in the media I read, if there is anything you could show me differently i would be interested. I'm just using common sense. Just like Nazi Germany(maybe a bad example), the first people were the easiest to catch.
Orlando Buffalo Posted Saturday at 09:38 PM Posted Saturday at 09:38 PM 17 minutes ago, daz28 said: I'm just using common sense. Just like Nazi Germany(maybe a bad example), the first people were the easiest to catch. Please identify how I was not using common sense, I said hiding and you defined it exactly as I would. It would seem you have to make a Nazi reference in order to feel good about yourself 1
daz28 Posted yesterday at 12:41 AM Posted yesterday at 12:41 AM 2 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Please identify how I was not using common sense, I said hiding and you defined it exactly as I would. It would seem you have to make a Nazi reference in order to feel good about yourself Terrible deflection, but I told you it's not common sense to think that anyone is hiding if no one is patrolling looking for them. They're just not going to the places that the government may know of the said location(driver ID; workplace; court dates; etc). That's a HUGE difference. Now that they are all aware, they simply won't go to those places, making it near impossible to locate them, especially when, like I already told you, there's no one roaming the streets actively pursuing them. Why do I have to repeat everything that makes perfect sense the first time. Is that a shtick around here?
aristocrat Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM Posted yesterday at 12:50 AM 3 hours ago, daz28 said: I'm just using common sense. Just like Nazi Germany(maybe a bad example), the first people were the easiest to catch. So are the people being deported going to be gassed by their home countries? Is this what you’re saying?
daz28 Posted yesterday at 12:56 AM Posted yesterday at 12:56 AM 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: So are the people being deported going to be gassed by their home countries? Is this what you’re saying? No I'm saying in the opening days of Hitler's roundups, it was easier to catch people, because they were caught off guard, then it got much harder to find them. It's a different scenario though, because they had the Gestapo actively pursuing them, and a government that made laws to make it easier. Congress is going to have to help trump in a BIG way if this is to be successful. Sometimes having a good Constitution can make things more difficult. Do you have any ideas how they are going to identify and locate 20 million people? I'm barely even seeing any concepts of any plan.
Orlando Buffalo Posted yesterday at 02:16 AM Posted yesterday at 02:16 AM 1 hour ago, daz28 said: Terrible deflection, but I told you it's not common sense to think that anyone is hiding if no one is patrolling looking for them. They're just not going to the places that the government may know of the said location(driver ID; workplace; court dates; etc). That's a HUGE difference. Now that they are all aware, they simply won't go to those places, making it near impossible to locate them, especially when, like I already told you, there's no one roaming the streets actively pursuing them. Why do I have to repeat everything that makes perfect sense the first time. Is that a shtick around here? You are taking a very long way to say hiding out. If I am intentionally making decisions to ensure certain people can't find me, I am hiding.
daz28 Posted yesterday at 02:20 AM Posted yesterday at 02:20 AM 3 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: You are taking a very long way to say hiding out. If I am intentionally making decisions to ensure certain people can't find me, I am hiding. To the same degree you'd be hiding from a crazy ex.
daz28 Posted yesterday at 02:26 AM Posted yesterday at 02:26 AM (edited) A pretty big problem ICE is going to run into shortly is citizens will be asking, "why aren't you arresting those illegals working over there in that field?"(or home development). If they deport every farm and construction immigrant tomorrow could you imagine what it does to the industries and consumers? I hope this was considered in the concept of the plan. Edited yesterday at 02:27 AM by daz28
Orlando Buffalo Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 9 hours ago, daz28 said: A pretty big problem ICE is going to run into shortly is citizens will be asking, "why aren't you arresting those illegals working over there in that field?"(or home development). If they deport every farm and construction immigrant tomorrow could you imagine what it does to the industries and consumers? I hope this was considered in the concept of the plan. You are so racist it is crazy, there are plenty of migrant workers from Mexico and other countries that are here legally. The fact that you believe all Hispanic day laborer are illegals is telling. 1 1
daz28 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 11 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: You are so racist it is crazy, there are plenty of migrant workers from Mexico and other countries that are here legally. The fact that you believe all Hispanic day laborer are illegals is telling. Where did I say all(including legal, which doesn't even make sense); of course I was referring to only the illegal ones. Why would you even think I meant send back legal workers? That's the first time I've ever been called a racist. LOL
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