ILLEGAL Immigration is Bad: ILLEGAL ALIENS Have Begun Self Deportations

[dgrochester55]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 

 

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Those at risk include people from war-torn countries such as Afghanistan and Ukraine as well as people brought to the U.S. illegally as children, often called Dreamers. Many immigrants with temporary status, known as TPS, enjoy deportation protections—and work authorization—because the government has determined their home countries are too dangerous. Many more entered the country through a program set up by the Biden administration that rewarded them with work permits for coming legally rather than attempting to cross the southern border.

 

Immigrants whose legal work status is at risk work in sectors that range from healthcare and hospitality to manufacturing and education, for small businesses and for large employers such as Eli Lilly, Amazon and Microsoft. Some are recent arrivals; others have been in the workforce for a decade.

 

Their removal from the workforce—which, because of the intricacies of federal immigration law, would take months or more to play out—would create fresh challenges for employers already struggling to fill open positions. It would also plunge millions of families into instability, opening them up to possible deportation with few legal options to challenge the decision.

“It will have an enormous impact across the U.S. in a wide range of industries, regardless of whether those people get deported or wind up leaving the U.S.,” said Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, a senior fellow at the American Immigration Council, a nonpartisan advocacy group.

Chris Thomas, an immigration attorney in Denver, is working with one social-media company that has more than 1,000 employees whose legal work status could vanish, in roles that range from marketing to computer analyst. “A lot of other companies are expressing the same concern,” Thomas said

Trump won't do anything. He will see that hurting the workforce hurts the economy. 

 

He will just do some cruel thing at the border, the media will freak out, Trump will say, "See I'm going after the parasites!" and nothing really will change. 

 

 

Fine, but will you really care if Trump does very little about immigrantion? You may not realize it but the economy relies on these workers and Trump knows that. He won't shoot himself in the foot. You are MAGA won't give two craps if he just does very little on this issue. 

 

Seriously, would you mind if he just signed the bi-partisan agree reached in Congress? That would work, right? If Trump blesses it, MAGA will say its great 

 

1) Not everyone who doesn't have TDS flowing out of their veins is MAGA. Get that out of your bitter, narrow minded, head now. You lost in the election because you couldn't do this. The second that you call everyone MAGA, you are a red flag for TDS and lose all credibility. Grow up.

 

2) Nothing that you say about labor needs is an excuse for letting undocumented people come in unchecked. I don't care how many times you repeat that point, they are apples and oranges. Why should all of those workers not be documented? Tell me outside of not paying taxes or hiding from the law is being undocumented a benefit to non citizens or US citizens?

 

3) Is every undocumented person from war torn countries? Nope, so drop that argument too. I know that the left thrive in finding one or two extreme circumstance sob stories and having the media make it look like the norm, but lets address the more common cases instead. Lets focus on those who are undocumented and not refugees.

 

4) You seem very angry. Seriously consider therapy

Edited December 15, 2024 by dgrochester55

[Gregg]

[B-Man]

 

 

The Constitution Does Not Grant Birthright
Citizenship to the Children of Illegal Immigrants

by James D. Agresti

 

Dozens of media outlets are reporting in unison that Donald Trump cannot stop the U.S. government from awarding birthright citizenship to the children of illegal immigrants. They claim this is the case because the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution requires it.

 

In reality, the legislative history of the 14th Amendment is clear that it only grants birthright citizenship to the children of people who are legally and permanently living in the United States. This does not apply to the children of illegal immigrants, temporary residents, visitors, or tourists.

 

 

 

 

The legislative history of the 14th Amendment reveals that the birthright citizenship clause was enacted primarily to protect the civil rights of African Americans. Contrary to shallow claims from the media and certain scholars, it doesn’t grant citizenship to the children of anyone who is not legally and permanently living in the United States.

 

https://www.justfactsdaily.com/the-constitution-does-not-grant-birthright-citizenship-to-the-children-of-illegal-immigrants#comments

 

 

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[The Frankish Reich]

35 minutes ago, B-Man said:

The legislative history of the 14th Amendment reveals that the birthright citizenship clause was enacted primarily to protect the civil rights of African Americans. Contrary to shallow claims from the media and certain scholars, it doesn’t grant citizenship to the children of anyone who is not legally and permanently living in the United States.

What about Indian tribes? 

 

I'll be fair here: liberal constitutional scholars have always said we should examine the context in which an amendment to the constitution was adopted. So they say the 2nd Amendment was adopted in a particular time under particular circumstances, and a fair reading of it is that it wasn't about a wholly "private" right to bear arms, unlinked to the well-regulated militia language. The people who want to read the 14th Amendment as not granting birthright citizenship are following in this liberal tradition.

 

Meanwhile, conservative constitutional scholars have been textualists. The plain words of the amendment are what control. Applying those principles, the answer is easy: the 14th Amendment citizenship clause applies to every baby born in the United States except members of Indian tribes (not considered "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States at the time; that's why we say, for example, "Navajo Nation") and children of diplomats (which is why diplomatic immunity is a thing).

 

So be consistent. Is that too much to ask?

 

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[Doc]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

...or else.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Illegal or not, Roundy will tell you that you hate brown people if you have a problem with this.

 

 

[Doc]

15 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

Illegal or not, Roundy will tell you that you hate brown people if you have a problem with this.

 

 

 

What did it say?  They took it down.

[BillsFanNC]

7 hours ago, Doc said:

 

What did it say?  They took it down.

 

Video of presumed illegals gunning down a kid on his porch in Minneapolis.

 

 

 

Edited December 30, 2024 by BillsFanNC

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

But there is little doubt about which side will win. Four of the top founders of what became known as the PayPal Mafia — Musk, Peter Thiel, Max Levchin and Roelof Botha — are immigrants. Nvidia’s CEO, Jensen Huang, hails from Taiwan. The CEOs of Google, Microsoft and IBM are all Indian-born. Musk was born in South Africa and came to the United States from Canada. “The reason I’m in America,” Musk wrote to his critics on X, “is because of H1B. Take a big step back and F--- YOURSELF in the face. I will go to war on this issue the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend.”

Strap in, America. A fabulously talented crop of rich guys is now very close to the levers of power. As a result, they stand to enrich themselves even further. I never thought I’d say this, but I liked it better when Silicon Valley ignored Washington and focused instead on inventing the things that made them so wealthy in the first place.

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

21 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But there is little doubt about which side will win. Four of the top founders of what became known as the PayPal Mafia — Musk, Peter Thiel, Max Levchin and Roelof Botha — are immigrants. Nvidia’s CEO, Jensen Huang, hails from Taiwan. The CEOs of Google, Microsoft and IBM are all Indian-born. Musk was born in South Africa and came to the United States from Canada. “The reason I’m in America,” Musk wrote to his critics on X, “is because of H1B. Take a big step back and F--- YOURSELF in the face. I will go to war on this issue the likes of which you cannot possibly comprehend.”

Strap in, America. A fabulously talented crop of rich guys is now very close to the levers of power. As a result, they stand to enrich themselves even further. I never thought I’d say this, but I liked it better when Silicon Valley ignored Washington and focused instead on inventing the things that made them so wealthy in the first place.

You are not capable of this level of wordsmithing. You generally cannot construct a sentence without error. Who is the author of this? 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

20 minutes ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said:

You are not capable of this level of wordsmithing. You generally cannot construct a sentence without error. Who is the author of this? 

You are a liar. I construct many very good sentences. You are a bird brain. 

[Biden is Mentally Fit]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

You are a liar. I construct many very good sentences. You are a bird brain. 

Just thought you might want to give credit where it’s due rather than stealing someone else’s words. That’s something a Walz, Biden, or Redhawk would do. 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

1 minute ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said:

Just thought you might want to give credit where it’s due rather than stealing someone else’s words. That’s something a Walz, Biden, or Redhawk would do. 

You thought? Now stop, you are lying again. But I guess you are just too stupid to realize it. 

 

 

[B-Man]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

  I construct many very good sentences. 

 

 

LOL.

 

 

[yall]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

You thought? Now stop, you are lying again. But I guess you are just too stupid to realize it. 

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/12/30/musk-loomer-h1b-visas-trump-bannon/

 

Completely plagiarized from the above link.

 

Pretty on-brand for the left these days.

[aristocrat]

Terrorist attack in New Orleans. Suspect came over the border two days ago.