Week 12: Buffalo Bills vs Philadelphia Eagles

[PBF81]

15 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

I have no idea what to think of this game.  No idea what offense is going to show up.  Will we go on a streak and get good Josh with good skill players for two weeks in a row?  Will we go back to the dumpster offense that can't do anything all game but manage to score a couple in the 4th?  No idea.  If we are going to win we need the good execution version of the offense though.

 

As for the Eagles, they are 9-1.  I really don't know how.  I have only watched a few of their games but each one I watch they are just mediocre.  It's like other than tush push they do nothing spectacular.  They just manage to pull out a win every time.  Hurts isn't impressive most of the game.  He throws passes all game to the LoS.  They have a good runner in Swift but even he gets stuffed.  I guess it's just that they seem to hit the explosive play the few times a game that they need it.  We need to not let them do that.

 

Well, somehow they've managed to beat the Fins, Cowboys, Chiefs, and Vikes by averaging nearly 30 PPG against them, which is more than we've done.  

 

Not sure it matters which offense of ours shows up, we should be much more concerned that our overrated D gets exposed.  It's been great against teams with siht QBs, but not so great against teams with good ones that are well coached.  

 

And as usual, it's pretty unlikely that we'll outcoach them.   

 

It's a lot more likely that we'll need 30+ points on the board to beat them.  They've averaged 32 PPG at home.  

 

The Over is 48.5, that sounds like a good bet.  

 

 

[MikePJ76]

28 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

I have no idea what to think of this game.  No idea what offense is going to show up.  Will we go on a streak and get good Josh with good skill players for two weeks in a row?  Will we go back to the dumpster offense that can't do anything all game but manage to score a couple in the 4th?  No idea.  If we are going to win we need the good execution version of the offense though.

 

As for the Eagles, they are 9-1.  I really don't know how.  I have only watched a few of their games but each one I watch they are just mediocre.  It's like other than tush push they do nothing spectacular.  They just manage to pull out a win every time.  Hurts isn't impressive most of the game.  He throws passes all game to the LoS.  They have a good runner in Swift but even he gets stuffed.  I guess it's just that they seem to hit the explosive play the few times a game that they need it.  We need to not let them do that.

Everything with Philadelphia is about the line of scrimmage.  They are outstanding upfront.  If Buffalo can not slow down the run early they will get run over.  If they get into 2nd and/or 3rd and long vs this front they are dead in the water.

 

on the flip side if they have manageable 3rd downs I believe you can throw the ball all over this defense.  

[Scott7975]

14 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Well, somehow they've managed to beat the Fins, Cowboys, Chiefs, and Vikes by averaging nearly 30 PPG against them, which is more than we've done.  

 

Not sure it matters which offense of ours shows up, we should be much more concerned that our overrated D gets exposed.  It's been great against teams with siht QBs, but not so great against teams with good ones that are well coached.  

 

And as usual, it's pretty unlikely that we'll outcoach them.   

 

It's a lot more likely that we'll need 30+ points on the board to beat them.  They've averaged 32 PPG at home.  

 

The Over is 48.5, that sounds like a good bet.  

 

 

well that would be why we need our good offense. They are going to get points but I don’t think they are gonna score every drive. 

[PBF81]

59 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

well that would be why we need our good offense. They are going to get points but I don’t think they are gonna score every drive. 

 

No team scores on every drive, obviously.  

 

With the single early season high exception of Miami, we haven't put up more than 25 points without the aid of more than 2 turnovers.  

 

Philly has only turned the ball over more than 2 times just once.  

 

Our offense is going to have to play better than it did vs. the Jets if they hit their 32-point home-game average in this game.  

 

That's a lot to ask given where we are now as a team.  Brady's debut was overrated, despite that being an unpopular notion, he was aided by 10 points all but gift-wrapped by STs & D, and by one huge play that we haven't seen all season otherwise.  Those things aren't likely to reoccur.  

 

But yeah, the offense is likely going to have to do what it hasn't done this season.  

 

 

Edited November 24, 2023 by PBF81

[Blank Stare]

2 hours ago, AlfaBill said:

Question: would you trade McD for him? I believe he’s a western New Yorker too

I’m no McD apologist, but no way in hell would I want Sirianni. Sure he’s an offensive guy which is all the rage out of the HC position these days, but he’s not my cup of tea. 

[That's No Moon]

2 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

on the flip side if they have manageable 3rd downs I believe you can throw the ball all over this defense.  

Spencer Brown v. Hassan Reddick is a big deal. Reddick can wreck the game by himself.

[Scott7975]

3 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

No team scores on every drive, obviously.  

 

With the single early season high exception of Miami, we haven't put up more than 25 points without the aid of more than 2 turnovers.  

 

Philly has only turned the ball over more than 2 times just once.  

 

Our offense is going to have to play better than it did vs. the Jets if they hit their 32-point home-game average in this game.  

 

That's a lot to ask given where we are now as a team.  Brady's debut was overrated, despite that being an unpopular notion, he was aided by 10 points all but gift-wrapped by STs & D, and by one huge play that we haven't seen all season otherwise.  Those things aren't likely to reoccur.  

 

But yeah, the offense is likely going to have to do what it hasn't done this season.  

 

 

Let me say that I don’t like this game but I’m not going to use stats to talk me into a win or loss. They play the game for a reason. Anything can happen. If we lose we lose but I know this team can beat anyone if they play their best ball. 

[Chandler#81]

Unfortunately, we can no longer thro away a game. Even though it’s our Conference we’re battling with, we need Dubs. If we must lose a game and still be alive, it’ll have to be to an NFC team, imo.

[JerseyBills]

Swift and AJ Brown both limited so far. Brown wasclimited last week and played, only recording 1 rec, so maybe it impacted him and he sits out. Swifts injury is new. 

Either would be a huge Loss for the O with Goedart already out

18 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Unfortunately, we can no longer thro away a game. Even though it’s our Conference we’re battling with, we need Dubs. If we must lose a game and still be alive, it’ll have to be to an NFC team, imo.

Definitely. I just hope it isn't this one because of the bye. This board will want to fire everyone and it'll be a rough 2 weeks. I love Buf in this game though

Edited November 24, 2023 by JerseyBills

[PBF81]

6 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

Let me say that I don’t like this game but I’m not going to use stats to talk me into a win or loss. They play the game for a reason. Anything can happen. If we lose we lose but I know this team can beat anyone if they play their best ball. 

 

No doubt.  I'm simply not big on needing firsts in order to win.  

 

Anything could happen.  Simply pointing out the trends and patterns going into this.  

 

And since when have we been playing our best ball?   

 

Just sayin'.  

 

 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

I hear that Taron Johnson and Rapp are back, which is amazing news for me. Jackson can wait a few weeks,

[Bob Jones]

Betting line has dropped to -3 for Eagles….means people are betting on the Bills.

[Ya Digg?]

10 hours ago, PBF81 said:

 

Well, somehow they've managed to beat the Fins, Cowboys, Chiefs, and Vikes by averaging nearly 30 PPG against them, which is more than we've done.  

 

Not sure it matters which offense of ours shows up, we should be much more concerned that our overrated D gets exposed.  It's been great against teams with siht QBs, but not so great against teams with good ones that are well coached.  

 

And as usual, it's pretty unlikely that we'll outcoach them.   

 

It's a lot more likely that we'll need 30+ points on the board to beat them.  They've averaged 32 PPG at home.  

 

The Over is 48.5, that sounds like a good bet.  

 

 

I honestly don’t even understand what that first part even means. The Bills don’t even play the Vikings, put up 50 against the dolphins, and haven’t played the other 2 yet. I actually think this year the def is NOT overrated for once. They have been decimated by injuries but are still holding teams under 20 ppg. Yes they gave up terrible game ending drives in 2 losses, so maybe that’s where your overrated statement comes from.

 

Its very possible the Bills need 30+ on Sunday, but the Eagles are not the juggernaut your statement is attempting to convey

[PBF81]

4 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

I honestly don’t even understand what that first part even means. The Bills don’t even play the Vikings, put up 50 against the dolphins, and haven’t played the other 2 yet. I actually think this year the def is NOT overrated for once. They have been decimated by injuries but are still holding teams under 20 ppg. Yes they gave up terrible game ending drives in 2 losses, so maybe that’s where your overrated statement comes from.

 

Its very possible the Bills need 30+ on Sunday, but the Eagles are not the juggernaut your statement is attempting to convey

 

Check out the context.  Did you do that?

 

It'll make more sense then.  

 

 

[Ya Digg?]

3 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Check out the context.  Did you do that?

 

It'll make more sense then.  

 

 

I did-you mention a team the Bills don’t even play all season and 2 teams they haven’t played yet. I get that you’re looking at the better teams they have played, but to me the point you’re trying to make just doesn’t land 

[PBF81]

Just now, Ya Digg? said:

I did-you mention a team the Bills don’t even play all season and 2 teams they haven’t played yet. I get that you’re looking at the better teams they have played, but to me the point you’re trying to make just doesn’t land 

 

If it's not obvious then don't sweat it.

 

It's not that important.  

 

 

[PatsFanNH]

11 hours ago, MikePJ76 said:

Everything with Philadelphia is about the line of scrimmage.  They are outstanding upfront.  If Buffalo can not slow down the run early they will get run over.  If they get into 2nd and/or 3rd and long vs this front they are dead in the water.

 

on the flip side if they have manageable 3rd downs I believe you can throw the ball all over this defense.  

The eagles have one of the top run defenses in the league. IMO using short passes and screens may be in order..

[Allen2Moulds]

1 hour ago, PBF81 said:

 

No doubt.  I'm simply not big on needing firsts in order to win.  

 

Anything could happen.  Simply pointing out the trends and patterns going into this.  

 

And since when have we been playing our best ball?   

 

Just sayin'.  

 

 

1 game is a small sample size, but against the Jets last week, it sure looked and felt like the old offense under Brady. And that's against a better Jets D. When we play like that, even the 85 Bears would struggle with Josh.

[Matt_In_NH]

Tarpon Johnson practicing.  He is an under appreciated dawg !

[PBF81]

17 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

1 game is a small sample size, but against the Jets last week, it sure looked and felt like the old offense under Brady. And that's against a better Jets D. When we play like that, even the 85 Bears would struggle with Josh.

 

Superficially maybe, but again, we scored 17 points due all but entirely to our longest pass play of the season and one of the league's longest TD passes on the season, and 10 more points due to STs and D efforts.  

 

15 points otherwise, and against a team with all but literally no offense allowing us nearly 40 minutes time of possession.  

 

The point is that that 17 points came in incredibly unlikely at best situations, but at worst nothing that can be game-planned in.

 

So we'll see.  Would love too see our killer offense back, but we have had an overraction to Brady as a result.  

 

 

Edited November 24, 2023 by PBF81