Yobogoya! Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 So historically under McD/Frazier the pass rush has been... anemic. Between 2017 and 2022 our sack totals finished as: 27 (yikes!), 36, 44, 38, 42, 40 We now sit currently at 39, good for second in the league behind only the Ravens, with still six games to go. Individually, Leonard Floyd has been a phenom. One of my fave off-season moves of the McBeane regime, he's sitting with 9.5 on the season after last night's sack banquet. Fun fact: no Bills player has recorded 10 or more sacks since this regime took over. Closest was Jordan Philips in 2018 who finished with, coincidentally, 9.5 Of all the criticisms McD might face lately, there's no doubt he has definitely elevated the pass rush since taking over coordinator duties from Frazier. Might we finally have a double-digit sack artist under this regime? No matter how you slice it, the defense is getting to the QB better than they have in over half a decade. It's great to see! 9 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Yep. Von Miller has been a damn beast 1 2 1 18 1 Quote
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Sure would have liked to see a sack or two on the last drives of Mac Jones and Russell Wilson.... But yes, they have been much more aggressive this year. 3 1 1 Quote
Yobogoya! Posted November 20, 2023 Author Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: Yep. Von Miller has been a damn beast To think we'd be second in the league in sacks through week 11 while Von has been a complete ghost in the stat column all year. Crazy. 2 2 Quote
mushypeaches Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: So historically under McD/Frazier the pass rush has been... anemic. Between 2017 and 2022 our sack totals finished as: 27 (yikes!), 36, 44, 38, 42, 40 We now sit currently at 39, good for second in the league behind only the Ravens, with still six games to go. Individually, Leonard Floyd has been a phenom. One of my fave off-season moves of the McBeane regime, he's sitting with 9.5 on the season after last night's sack banquet. Fun fact: no Bills player has recorded 10 or more sacks since this regime took over. Closest was Jordan Philips in 2018 who finished with, coincidentally, 9.5 Of all the criticisms McD might face lately, there's no doubt he has definitely elevated the pass rush since taking over coordinator duties from Frazier. Might we finally have a double-digit sack artist under this regime? No matter how you slice it, the defense is getting to the QB better than they have in over half a decade. It's great to see! I'm fascinated - averaging 40 sacks per year for the previous 5 seasons is "anemic"??? IIRC we have also trended near the top of the league in pressures and/or pass rush win rate as well McDermott's defenses certainly have had their share of challenges, especially in big spots. But I wouldn't necessarily characterize getting sacks as one of them 1 Quote
FilthyBeast Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 With injuries piling up in the secondary this pass rush is going to have to be perfect the next 2 weeks and going forward. 1 1 Quote
Yobogoya! Posted November 20, 2023 Author Posted November 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: I'm fascinated - averaging 40 sacks per year for the previous 5 seasons is "anemic"??? IIRC we have also trended near the top of the league in pressures and/or pass rush win rate as well McDermott's defenses certainly have had their share of challenges, especially in big spots. But I wouldn't necessarily characterize getting sacks as one of them 40 sacks last year put us at 15th in the league. Maybe "mediocre" then is a better word. Situationally, it felt like when we needed it, it was nowhere to be found. 13 minutes ago, RJ (not THAT RJ) said: Sure would have liked to see a sack or two on the last drives of Mac Jones and Russell Wilson.... But yes, they have been much more aggressive this year. Maybe it's still a work in progress, then. 😅 Quote
dave mcbride Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: So historically under McD/Frazier the pass rush has been... anemic. Between 2017 and 2022 our sack totals finished as: 27 (yikes!), 36, 44, 38, 42, 40 We now sit currently at 39, good for second in the league behind only the Ravens, with still six games to go. Individually, Leonard Floyd has been a phenom. One of my fave off-season moves of the McBeane regime, he's sitting with 9.5 on the season after last night's sack banquet. Fun fact: no Bills player has recorded 10 or more sacks since this regime took over. Closest was Jordan Philips in 2018 who finished with, coincidentally, 9.5 Of all the criticisms McD might face lately, there's no doubt he has definitely elevated the pass rush since taking over coordinator duties from Frazier. Might we finally have a double-digit sack artist under this regime? No matter how you slice it, the defense is getting to the QB better than they have in over half a decade. It's great to see! Just as an fyi, McDermott's 2013 Panthers D had 60 sacks: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car/2013.htm. 1 Quote
BuffaloBill Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: I'm fascinated - averaging 40 sacks per year for the previous 5 seasons is "anemic"??? Please don’t allow facts to interfere with our fun……. 1 1 4 Quote
MPL Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 The DLine makes me think that maybe — just maybe — this Bills team could have a little 2011 New York Giants magic in them. And hey, Linval Joseph was on that team. 2 1 Quote
bmur66 Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Is Rousseau playing injured or what? He should getting sacks too but he’s not. Quote
Big Turk Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: So historically under McD/Frazier the pass rush has been... anemic. Between 2017 and 2022 our sack totals finished as: 27 (yikes!), 36, 44, 38, 42, 40 We now sit currently at 39, good for second in the league behind only the Ravens, with still six games to go. Individually, Leonard Floyd has been a phenom. One of my fave off-season moves of the McBeane regime, he's sitting with 9.5 on the season after last night's sack banquet. Fun fact: no Bills player has recorded 10 or more sacks since this regime took over. Closest was Jordan Philips in 2018 who finished with, coincidentally, 9.5 Of all the criticisms McD might face lately, there's no doubt he has definitely elevated the pass rush since taking over coordinator duties from Frazier. Might we finally have a double-digit sack artist under this regime? No matter how you slice it, the defense is getting to the QB better than they have in over half a decade. It's great to see! I would trade all of Floyd's sacks yesterday for him getting off the field in the Broncos game. 1 Quote
Yobogoya! Posted November 20, 2023 Author Posted November 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said: Please don’t allow facts to interfere with our fun……. McD/Frazier's Bills have never finished top ten in sacks as a team and never produced a single double digit sack player to this point. Again, "mediocre" is probably a better word there. Anecdotally, they disappointed in key situations, like in several playoff exits. The #1 and #2 teams in the NFL in sacks last year were the Chiefs and the Eagles. I'm encouraged by the change I'm seeing this year 🤷♂️ Quote
wppete Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 All this and nothing from Von Miller. Pretty amazing. Leonard Floyd one of Beanes greatest FA signings ever. 1 Quote
Warcodered Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Von Miller figures out how to turn again and things will be even better. 🤞 2 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Yes, if Von can get it together... LOOOK OUT! His speed off the line is getting better. He just needs to make the cut towards the QB. His power is there too. C'mon Von, bang the gong! 1 Quote
Charles Romes Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Getting a reasonable replacement for Daquan in there has helped. The drop off was significant between the Dolphins and Bengals game, hopefully not enough to keep a dangerous team out of the playoffs. 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Kinda misleading. 20 sacks have come in 3 games (two jests, 1 Washington). That means we have 19 in 8. Still solid but definitely inflated by those outlier games. Quote
Warcodered Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Kinda misleading. 20 sacks have come in 3 games (two jests, 1 Washington). That means we have 19 in 8. Still solid but definitely inflated by those outlier games. I'm sure plenty of teams get more sacks against bad teams that's just how seasons go, point is they're still getting pressure and a few in other games. 2 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Kinda misleading. 20 sacks have come in 3 games (two jests, 1 Washington). That means we have 19 in 8. Still solid but definitely inflated by those outlier games. Every team with high sack totals for the entire history of the league has had their numbers inflated by outlier games. Lotta teams never have any outlier games, which isn't where you want to be. 3 2 2 Quote
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