leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Fixxxer said: Gracias Sherpa and everyone wishing us well! We have a very difficult work ahead, we have now 3 generations of people that doesn't know what hard work means, unfortunately they don't have the educational tools to do so because they have collected a paycheck from the goverment for 20 years straight without giving anything back to the community. Unfortunately we practice "social justice" instead of justice. We are hoping for the best, we just want to live in normal conditions, that's all. Yikes—that sounds daunting indeed. Best of luck to you and your family. 1 1 1
B-Man Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 ROGER KIMBALL: MAGA, Argentina Style. So, Javier Milei was elected president of that troubled South American country on Sunday. That couldn’t happen. Everyone who was anyone knew that the expletive-spewing, chainsaw-wielding“anarcho-capitalist” couldn’t possibly win the presidency. The 53-year-old economist (he had been chief economist for Argentina’s airport system) and talking head was too wild, too extreme, too unruly to be taken seriously. He was also too radical in his proposals. But then the impossible turned into the inevitable. And note that Mr. Milei didn’t just win. He won in something close to a landslide, with nearly 56 percent of the vote to 44 percent for his opponent, Economy Minister Sergio Massa. And of course, back in the USA, the MSM-DNC is pouncing and seizing in response: https://www.theepochtimes.com/opinion/maga-argentina-style-5532792 . 1
sherpa Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Fixxxer said: Gracias Sherpa and everyone wishing us well! We have a very difficult work ahead, we have now 3 generations of people that doesn't know what hard work means, unfortunately they don't have the educational tools to do so because they have collected a paycheck from the goverment for 20 years straight without giving anything back to the community. Unfortunately we practice "social justice" instead of justice. We are hoping for the best, we just want to live in normal conditions, that's all. This is going to be a troubled road, becasue there are so many people dependent on the status quo, and they are not going to welcome change. Still, the effect of Argentina abandoning the failed policies it has clung to over the years would not only unleash an incredible economic and cultural potential, it would break the South American proclivity for clinging to populism, government failure after failure, and proven bankrupt policy designed to do nothing other than line the pockets of corrupt individuals. I can only imagine the effects if Argentina turns this around. Brazil and Peru come to mind. Well worth temporary pain, but I'm not sure Argentina is willing to go through it. 1 1
T master Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 On 11/19/2023 at 6:47 PM, Tommy Callahan said: Holy Cow ! A politician that thinks differently than the status quo & is very out spoken against those that have been in power ! I wonder how this will go for him ? Do we have a example in a different country that we could use to see what he is up against ?? 2
The Frankish Reich Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) We'll have to see how libertarian he is. Immediately in conflict: his apparent opposition to abortion rights. Where exactly will he stand on free trade vs. protectionism? On Argentina not defaulting? Edited November 21, 2023 by The Frankish Reich
sherpa Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: We'll have to see how libertarian he is. Immediately in conflict: his apparent opposition to abortion rights. Where exactly will he stand on free trade vs. protectionism? On Argentina not defaulting? Goodness gracious. If you'd ever done business in Argentina, you'd realize that his views on free trade vs. protectionism are meaningless at this point. The start is actually being able to do business there without paying off gov employees. Regarding default, they are already grossly incapable of paying off debt. Another non issue. Abortion rights? Argentina is still a Catholic country following an Argentine Pope in Rome. How about solving the kidnapping for ransom issue before worrying about abortion. The point is that they need to clear up gross, generational, entrenched internal corruption before any of the issues you bring up can be addressed, and they have never demonstrated the will to do so, because some left wing populist has always come in to tell them that it isn't necessary, and things will be fine. Fails every single time. Edited November 21, 2023 by sherpa 3 1 1
Tiberius Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 23 hours ago, Fixxxer said: Correction. Villarruel only wants to acknowledge the victims of the terrorists called montoneros. She's only pursuing the thruth and justice for those who, over the years, have no voice and no representation, that's all. The part regarding the musuem, it's true, though I wouldn't use the word dismantling. She just offers ideas to use that place (42 acres) for recreational purposes. Over that period that building/place was a technical school. Unfortunately, human rights in Argentina has been used for money laundring by the nefast family Kirchner, not to mention that they have ties with countries like Cuba and Venezuela. Our vicepresident, Cristina Kirchner, has been found guilty of state fraud, she should be at least in house arrest. Right now Argentina is a cesspool of socialism. Corruption running amock, living in a narco state with no law and order. 140% yearly inflation, with a fiscal pressure that is insane for the level of quality of life this country has to offer. Are you old enough to remember the sink of the Gen. Belgrano? I was in high school when that happened. Pretty big international incident and its one of the biggest news stories that impacted me at the time. I did not know until I was older that it was controversial. Only the second ship since WW2 sunk by a sub, with perhaps just once since (N. Korea sinking a S. Korean vessel perhaps) and only nuclear sub to sink a vessel. The Belgrano had been an America cruiser, but the news at the time called it a battleship. 300 sailors perished. I had watched a lot of the "Victory at Sea" series as a kid and the world at war BBc special and it seemed like something right out of WW2 to me at the time.
Fixxxer Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Are you old enough to remember the sink of the Gen. Belgrano? I was in high school when that happened. Pretty big international incident and its one of the biggest news stories that impacted me at the time. I did not know until I was older that it was controversial. Only the second ship since WW2 sunk by a sub, with perhaps just once since (N. Korea sinking a S. Korean vessel perhaps) and only nuclear sub to sink a vessel. The Belgrano had been an America cruiser, but the news at the time called it a battleship. 300 sailors perished. I had watched a lot of the "Victory at Sea" series as a kid and the world at war BBc special and it seemed like something right out of WW2 to me at the time. I was seven at the time. Too young to remember.
SCBills Posted November 22, 2023 Posted November 22, 2023 7 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said: We'll have to see how libertarian he is. Immediately in conflict: his apparent opposition to abortion rights. Where exactly will he stand on free trade vs. protectionism? On Argentina not defaulting? Lots of libertarians are pro-life. Just like lots of libertarians believe murder should be illegal… 1
Tommy Callahan Posted November 22, 2023 Author Posted November 22, 2023 It's spreading as liberty often does. The pendulum swung way left/corporate/global. It's gonna be interesting to see how far it swings back. It's got a lot of inertia with these policies hurting so many, in so many ways. 1
BillsFanNC Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 Up your meds TDS patients. Is Quack alright? 1 1
Irv Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 On 11/20/2023 at 11:49 AM, B-Man said: Argentina's president-elect Javier Milei says first overseas trips to be U.S., Israel Ynet ^ | Nov 20, 2023 Argentina's President-elect Javier Milei said his first overseas trips ahead of his inauguration will be to the United States, then Israel, in a radio interview on Monday, following his election victory over the weekend. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/h1f7gjyvt Demented Biden won’t even know who this dude is if he visits. No bribe money available from Argentina. Aid goes to bribery countries like Iran and Ukraine. What a mess.
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