B-Man Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 THE INTERNATIONAL PRESS CALLS HIM “FAR RIGHT’ AND WOULD HAVE PREFERRED THE PERONIST: Argentina elects ‘shock therapy’ libertarian Javier Milei as president. “Official results showed Milei with near 56% versus 44% for his rival, Peronist Economy Minister Sergio Massa, who conceded in a speech. His candidacy was hampered by the country’s worst economic crisis in two decades while he has been at the helm. . . . Milei is pledging economic shock therapy. His plans include shutting the central bank, ditching the peso, and slashing spending, potentially painful reforms that resonated with voters angry at the economic malaise.” Plus, young voters seem to have delivered the election to him: “Milei has been particularly popular among the young, who have grown up seeing their country lurch from one crisis to another.” UPDATE: Looking 20 minutes into the future: 2
aristocrat Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 https://x.com/assliken/status/1726405939954135325?s=46&t=WfwBbfFkRiZZWCMxTdpkOw 1 1
Tiberius Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 Oh, this will be interesting. "This model of decadence has come to an end. There is no turning back," he told his supporters in his victory speech, promising a new era for Argentina. "From being the richest country in the world, today we are (ranked) 130. Half of Argentines are poor and the other 10% are destitute. Stop this impoverishing model of the caste. Today we embrace the Libertarian model so as to return to being a global power," he said. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-67470549
Tommy Callahan Posted November 20, 2023 Author Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, this will be interesting. "This model of decadence has come to an end. There is no turning back," he told his supporters in his victory speech, promising a new era for Argentina. "From being the richest country in the world, today we are (ranked) 130. Half of Argentines are poor and the other 10% are destitute. Stop this impoverishing model of the caste. Today we embrace the Libertarian model so as to return to being a global power," he said. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-67470549 inflation over 100% 40% of the country in poverty. devaluation of Argentina Peso That country has not been Rich, in decades. and why they chose small government over the Statist/Huge government that's been a disaster. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-argentina-economy-idUSKCN1LD1S7/ What's wrong with Libertarians? Edited November 20, 2023 by Tommy Callahan 1
Tiberius Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 But while his supporters took to the streets of the capital, Buenos Aires, chanting "change!", there are also those who worry about what Mr Milei's victory may mean for Argentine society. His choice of Victoria Villarruel as his vice-presidential running mate shocked human rights campaigners in the country, in which 30,000 people were killed or forcibly disappeared under military rule from 1976 to 1983. Ms Villarruel, who comes from a military family, has defended officers convicted of crimes against humanity and proposed dismantling a museum which commemorates victims of Argentina's military junta. 1
SCBills Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) Time will tell if he’s the real deal, but this was a massive win for the conservative/libertarian movement in the West. This guy has the brashness of Donald Trump but with the mindset of Ron DeSantis. The culture war must be fought with a heavy hand. Any conservative who doesn’t believe this (Nikki Haley) has no business running for office in this political climate. Edited November 20, 2023 by SCBills 2 1 1 1
Tiberius Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Time will tell if he’s the real deal, but this was a massive win for the conservative/libertarian movement in the West. This guy has the brashness of Donald Trump but with the mindset of Ron DeSantis. The culture war must be fought with a heavy hand. Any conservative who doesn’t believe this (Nikki Haley) has no business running for office in this political climate. Apparently he has very little support in their legislature, so unfortunently we can';t get a full blown Libertarian experiment. His proposal to hitch their currancy to the US dollar doesn't sound Libertarian at all. Actually, that's kind of the opposite. Smoke and mirrors 1
BillStime Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Apparently he has very little support in their legislature, so unfortunently we can';t get a full blown Libertarian experiment. His proposal to hitch their currancy to the US dollar doesn't sound Libertarian at all. Actually, that's kind of the opposite. Smoke and mirrors So now the MAGA nutters are libertarians? LOL 1
Tiberius Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 1 minute ago, BillStime said: So now the MAGA nutters are libertarians? LOL Whatever Dear Leader wants today… 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 32 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Apparently he has very little support in their legislature, so unfortunently we can';t get a full blown Libertarian experiment. His proposal to hitch their currancy to the US dollar doesn't sound Libertarian at all. Actually, that's kind of the opposite. Smoke and mirrors Many countries "peg" their currency to the dollar. Singapore, Saudi Arabia, and China, using a managed hi/lo band of exchange prices, to name a few. So its not all that unusual. 1 1 1
Tiberius Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Many countries "peg" their currency to the dollar. Singapore, Saudi Arabia, and China, using a managed hi/lo band of exchange prices, to name a few. So its not all that unusual. What? Not for Libertarians! They think the US dollar is a tool used by the Central government to oppress us. They have been screaming for us to (stupidly) go back on the gold standard 1 1
Fixxxer Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: But while his supporters took to the streets of the capital, Buenos Aires, chanting "change!", there are also those who worry about what Mr Milei's victory may mean for Argentine society. His choice of Victoria Villarruel as his vice-presidential running mate shocked human rights campaigners in the country, in which 30,000 people were killed or forcibly disappeared under military rule from 1976 to 1983. Ms Villarruel, who comes from a military family, has defended officers convicted of crimes against humanity and proposed dismantling a museum which commemorates victims of Argentina's military junta. Correction. Villarruel only wants to acknowledge the victims of the terrorists called montoneros. She's only pursuing the thruth and justice for those who, over the years, have no voice and no representation, that's all. The part regarding the musuem, it's true, though I wouldn't use the word dismantling. She just offers ideas to use that place (42 acres) for recreational purposes. Over that period that building/place was a technical school. Unfortunately, human rights in Argentina has been used for money laundring by the nefast family Kirchner, not to mention that they have ties with countries like Cuba and Venezuela. Our vicepresident, Cristina Kirchner, has been found guilty of state fraud, she should be at least in house arrest. Right now Argentina is a cesspool of socialism. Corruption running amock, living in a narco state with no law and order. 140% yearly inflation, with a fiscal pressure that is insane for the level of quality of life this country has to offer. 4 1
Tiberius Posted November 20, 2023 Posted November 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, Fixxxer said: Correction. Villarruel only wants to acknowledge the victims of the terrorists called montoneros. She's only pursuing the thruth and justice for those who, over the years, have no voice and no representation, that's all. The part regarding the musuem, it's true, though I wouldn't use the word dismantling. She just offers ideas to use that place (42 acres) for recreational purposes. Over that period that building/place was a technical school. Unfortunately, human rights in Argentina has been used for money laundring by the nefast family Kirchner, not to mention that they have ties with countries like Cuba and Venezuela. Our vicepresident, Cristina Kirchner, has been found guilty of state fraud, she should be at least in house arrest. Right now Argentina is a cesspool of socialism. Corruption running amock, living in a narco state with no law and order. 140% yearly inflation, with a fiscal pressure that is insane for the level of quality of life this country has to offer. Hope it gets on the right track 2
sherpa Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Fixxxer said: Right now Argentina is a cesspool of socialism. Corruption running amock, living in a narco state with no law and order. 140% yearly inflation, with a fiscal pressure that is insane for the level of quality of life this country has to offer. Having visited your country many times per month in my previous career, I sincerely wish for a successful transition from the gross corruption of the Kirchner, and previous, regimes, Such incredible economic and agricultural potential being sucked out by corruption and socialist malpractice. Simply clearing up law enforcement and customs department corruption will be a monumental task. Buena suerte amigo. Cruzare los dedos por ti. 1 1 1
Fixxxer Posted November 21, 2023 Posted November 21, 2023 Gracias Sherpa and everyone wishing us well! We have a very difficult work ahead, we have now 3 generations of people that doesn't know what hard work means, unfortunately they don't have the educational tools to do so because they have collected a paycheck from the goverment for 20 years straight without giving anything back to the community. Unfortunately we practice "social justice" instead of justice. We are hoping for the best, we just want to live in normal conditions, that's all. 4
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