Tush Push/Brotherly Shove/Rugby Scrums

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

43 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:

Ban it ... We need more things forbidden in the league to inconsistently  throw flags for.

Fixed it for you. 😉😁

[dgrochester55]

This exposes the inconsistency of the NFL.  Every year it seems, there is one more thing taken away from the defenses or special teams in the name of "safety".   They are now talking about banning a waist tackle next year and a Washington Commanders player got a 15 yard roughing the passer penalty for sacking Mac Jones two weeks ago. 

 

Meanwhile on the offensive side, this actual dangerous play that comes from the leather helmet era not only gets overlooked, but gets a cutesy name and a bunch of excited comments from the announcers. 

 

There are more injuries now than ever, so these changes made on defense are not about safety, they are about profit and creating the narrative for the juggernaut offenses and who will be the next GOAT at QB. 

Edited November 19, 2023 by dgrochester55

[Sherlock Holmes]

Word is that the Tush Push was Tom Brady's favorite play...even though he didn't run it in games that's all they would do in practice. 

[nucci]

It's not just that play, it's pushing the pile in general...RB near goal line and gets pushed in. It is starting to look like rugby. Used to be you couldn't push a player forward

[PetermansRedemption]

I feel like any attempt at helping the runner should be illegal. Thought it used to be. Pushing the scrum is obviously helping the runner. The tush push is an even more obvious attempt. Ban them both. At the very least, the tush push where you actually push the runner forward needs to be outlawed. 

[T master]

17 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

Does the NFL make it illegal to push the QB on a sneak, or even go one step further and avoid these rugby style scrums for any ball carrier?

 

Something will become of this to make it illegal in a safety kind of way .

[Just Jack]

16 hours ago, peterpan said:

Maybe if it’s 4th and 1 they’ll just give the O a first down 

 

Like when putting in golf with you buddies, and you pick up your ball because it's close enough. 

 

15 hours ago, Rc2catch said:

I feel like defenses are already so hindered. If defenses cannot push them back because of forward progress I feel it should be the same the other way around. 
I don’t care about the tush push, Philly don’t even need it. Ban it tomorrow they still probably convert over 90% and it’s not like anyone else is having that much success doing it. 

 

I wondered about that, if defenses could do their own "reverse tush push" into the offensive line when they are trying to push tush.  

[chongli]

Buffalo was the beneficiary of this call:

 

 

Edited January 7 by chongli

[stosh64]

17 minutes ago, chongli said:

Buffalo was the beneficiary of this call:

 

 

I remember that game and play.

God I miss watching players like Bruce and Talley!  It just doesn't feel like the same game now.

[stevewin]

There was a good video someone posted a while back that broke down Philly's version tush push.  The key to the whole thing was not the push, but rather the three person wedge the left three OL made at the snap, outside guys pinning their shoulder pads to the middle guy and them all moving as one.  You could outlaw the push and I don't think it would affect the success of the Philly version hardly at all

[bmur66]

In Buffalo it is called the “SHNOW PLOW” 

[boyst]

It'd be so fun to have a lineman pickup a small back (Singletary) and carry him then throw him further when he starts to go down. 

[WhoTom]

1 hour ago, boyst said:

It'd be so fun to have a lineman pickup a small back (Singletary) and carry him then throw him further when he starts to go down.