Andrew Son Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I mean to me, and maybe it's the confirmation bias talking so take it fwiw, this sounds exactly like getting the narrative out there that the offense is the root cause of all the issues. Because it can't be the defense. Because McDermott's in charge of the defense. The defense is not going to lead this team to a championship. If Josh Allen was playing like we know he can everything would be right in the world and we wouldn't be digging in every corner for "what's wrong." Josh is the franchise and we will go as he goes. The only thing that matters is getting him right and it does seem to be some sort of mental issue. Quote
Roundybout Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: You don't think this is a weird thing to say as a head coach in reference to your QB? ...McDermott on why he think that's dissipated with Allen over the last few weeks: "Yeah, I have my own thoughts, but I won’t go there right now. ' That is a legitimately bizarre thing to say in a press conference. Veiled shot at Dorsey? 1 Quote
Peter Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 They are bizarre . . . especially given that it was McCoach himself (as others have pointed out) who has attempted to neuter Josh. 1 Quote
stevestojan Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, mannc said: McDermott is acting like a guy who is under a lot of pressure and is not handling it very well. Not a good look for the franchise. Not sure why some are reacting with the disagree emoji. This is a very valid observation. Dude has had it relatively easy. Make no mistake, he inherited a team already on the rise. He is a decent coach. He is not a SB winning coach. Things finally aren’t coming up all rainbows and sunshine and he’s cracking. Clap less. Do more. Edited November 17, 2023 by stevestojan 3 1 Quote
DuckyBoys Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 at times I start to wonder if going all in to win or saving face is more important for McDermott 1 Quote
Mango Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: food for thought that I hadn't considered before today in a battle of wills that would eventually decide who stays and who goes, could Allen potentially lose out to McDermott? You and I have argued about Allen a bit over the years. But that would be insane. Allen is the franchise. He is the most important person at OBD, getting and keeping him firing hot is and should always be the priority. If the Bills were to move on from Allen, it can't be over a battle of wills. He has to be toast, done, or "washed" as the kiddos say these days. And I don't believe Allen's and I don't thin Allen believes or wants his career to be over. Soooo.....Deuces McD. Quote
juno999 Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) McDermott has messed with Allen's head. He's done more to neutralize one of the best offenses in the league than any other DC. Allen needs to run with the ball. Not necessarily designed QB runs but let him roll out and if doesn't like what he sees then let him run. Yeah nobody wants him to get hit/hurt and that's where McD needs to emphasize to slide or run out of bounds. If Allen runs more, it will open up the offense. Opposing defenses aren't concerned about Allen running anymore. McD did the typical thing of overcorrecting an issue and has made things worse. Now Allen is thinking too much and the Bills offense is sputtering. Can't wait until the off-season where McGenius says we need to score more points. Edited November 17, 2023 by juno999 5 1 2 Quote
Logic Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 I have not liked what I've been hearing from Sean McDermott lately. I'll say it again: for a guy that preaches "accountability" so loudly and so often, he sure does seem to lack it lately. For whatever may have been going wrong with the offense and the QB, guess what, Sean? YOU'RE THE HEAD COACH OF THE TEAM. THE BUCK STOPS WITH YOU. I have always been a staunch McDermott defender, but he is really testing my patience lately. His act is wearing thin to me, and I'm just a fan. I can't help but wonder how the players feel. 7 3 3 Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: This could be as simple as he got along great with Josh as the quarterback coach, but when it was time for him to be coordinator, they crashed Could be a simple as that I think this goes a lot deeper than a QB Coach who was misplaced. I think this is hard headed Coach who is a grind to get along with. Working his way down the line from Daboll, to Frazier, to Dorsey and now pecking at the QB. He’s out answers and is feeling the pressure. And my hope is Terry is awake and the one putting the pressure on him to perform or get out. 2 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Veiled shot at Dorsey? He fired him midseason after losing to the Broncos on a special teams gaff, I don't think he needs to take any veiled shots lol 1 3 Quote
Back2Buff Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 Josh has that look of emptiness. Can't help but think being in Buffalo without Britt is getting to him. Everything happened with them so late in season that he was constantly traveling right after they broke up. After months in Buffalo, I bet it doesn't feel like it has the previous 5 years for him. We have all been there when a place doesn't feel like home anymore and you just start going through the motions. 1 Quote
Chaos Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 If any of the players on the team are too tightly wound due to coaching, I think one of the places Mr. McDermott needs to look is in a mirror. 1 Quote
HappyDays Posted November 17, 2023 Author Posted November 17, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I mean to me, and maybe it's the confirmation bias talking so take it fwiw, this sounds exactly like getting the narrative out there that the offense is the root cause of all the issues. Because it can't be the defense. Because McDermott's in charge of the defense. This has been going on since after the Broncos game. McDermott has been in self-preservation mode. He praised the defensive players for playing their asses off, giving them (and his own play calling) no fault for the loss. He then went on to criticize the offense heavily and fired his OC the next day. When asked about the end of game FG debacle he commented that they had practiced that situation throughout the week but "failed to execute." His post game presser was completely unhinged. He blamed one player after another, never pointing the finger at himself. I can't imagine that landed well in the locker room. Edited November 17, 2023 by HappyDays 4 2 Quote
SDS Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: You don't think this is a weird thing to say as a head coach in reference to your QB? ...McDermott on why he think that's dissipated with Allen over the last few weeks: "Yeah, I have my own thoughts, but I won’t go there right now. ' That is a legitimately bizarre thing to say in a press conference. if he’s asked a question, what answer should he give? 2 Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, The Wiz said: If you think those comments are weird you should have heard him talk on WGR right before his press conference. I really haven't had a problem with McD and some of the things he says but this was kind of a "this is my team and you need to do it my way" kind of comment and it really made me lose faith in him. He was asked about the Cook benching after the fumble and basically said that he hadn't earned his trust the same as someone that might have been with the team for a longer period of time. I'm assuming this is a direct "trust" comparison between benching Cook and not benching Davis after he had an INT go off of his hands. So a guy who fumbled twice in 27 games gets less trust than a 58% catch percentage receiver. Got it. @Shaw66 what are your thoughts on this? Does this sound like a head coach that is capable of taking us to where we want to go? Did Dorsey make the benching call or McDermott? Sounds like McDermott to me! Quote
Andrew Son Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Peter said: They are bizarre . . . especially given that it was McCoach himself (as others have pointed out) who has attempted to neuter Josh. By neuter do you mean not take insane unnecessary risks and protect his body when possible? 1 1 Quote
Peter Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: food for thought that I hadn't considered before today in a battle of wills that would eventually decide who stays and who goes, could Allen potentially lose out to McDermott? A friend of mine is dating a woman and does not get along with her daughter that well. I have told him to never put his girlfriend in a position where he is asking her to choose between him and the daughter because he will lose every time. The same is true with Josh and McClappy. In a choice between Josh and McClappy, Josh wins 100 times out of 100. 1 Quote
Mango Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 Honestly, I think this team scared itself with the Jets game to open the season. They bounced back, but found themselves in one of their midseason lulls like we have seen before, and what we are seeing is a team collectively grip too tight. Quote
Chaos Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, RiotAct said: The “I have my own thoughts, but I won’t go there right now” comment seemed off-color and kind of unnecessary. Otherwise, I agree with you He has always had a fairly obnoxious passive aggressive style. He makes these veiled comments, so that people he is shifting blame to can’t respond. 2 Quote
90sBills Posted November 17, 2023 Posted November 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: That's how I felt before today but after listening to everything McDermott has put out publicly since Denver....he's been uncharacteristically critical of the offense and Allen in particular Maybe it’s McD’s way of tell Allen he’s part of the problem. But no way the Bills would choose the coach over the qb. Allen will be here long after McD is gone, which will probably be at the end of the season barring some miracle. 1 Quote
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