McDermott weird comments about Josh Allen

[stevewin]

9 hours ago, The Wiz said:

"low positive" vs "high fructose" 

 

I'd rather have "high fructose" Josh.

This really is a chance for McD at least behind the scenes to back away from the complimentary football narrative and neutered low positive Josh and just tell Brady to set him loose.  If it doesn't work out he just publicly scapegoats Brady and has an out.  He has to see at this point what cutting Josh's balls off has wrought 

[Luka]

Ken Dorsey strikes me as the guy who's always angry at work no matter what the situation. I know that the overall mood at OBD is pretty poor right now. McDermott has not been great at managing the personalities on the team. His loyalty to people he has worked with prior has stagnated the team. The situation with Elam comes to mind. Rather than develop young talent, McDermott wants a guy he's coached before or one of his friends in the league coached them or they had dinner together or whatever the case. He is after like minded people because he really struggles with people outside of his comfort zone. 

 

Daboll was a big personality in the building. He built a close relationship with the best player on the team. For better or worse, he was creative. I think he related to the guys in the room better. Guys wanted to play for him. I mean the 13 second Bills had a Super Bowl winning offense. That side of the ball was absolutely unbelievable for most of that year. And I don't think McDermott had a single thing to do with it. And that was an issue.

 

Diggs has become a toxic and polarizing figure on the team. The mellow drama that has played out with him this offseason and still continues into this week, should have been shut down immediately. But now his brother has created a rift between the franchise quarterback and not just his #1 receiver, but who he considers his best friend. And anyone who's ever held a job knows, these kinds of incidents at work definitely create tension. Everyone will have their own opinion about the situation. And the incidents with Josh on the sidelines. Are those truly harmless interactions? While a great player, I would not think that these would go unchecked by the head coach. The reports this offseason that Diggs may not even report for training camp eluded to a rift between coaches and players, Diggs clearly the figurehead in this situation.

 

Fraizer was fired. Statistically, coached a top 5 defense in Buffalo. Assistant head coach. A highly respected coach and human being through out the NFL. Coaches typically don't step away from a position where they have been successful. The way it was presented outside of OBD, to me, hints at a power struggle that happened shortly after the end of the season and one that was lost by Fraizer. In my opinion, McDermott not bringing on a new defensive coordinator was a mistake, but it was never about who he felt could coach the defense successfully. It was about power within the organization.  

 

In the press conference, the mentioning of what a great relationship he has with Terry is what should worry all of us the most. He's basically saying to the media, don't bother asking about my status with the company or if I'll be fired, because he knows he won't be. Anyone that questions McDermott has been steamrolled right out of the building. Two very influential coaches in two consecutive offseasons. He puts Ken Dorsey, his guy, in as offensive coordinator. He no longer has an assistant head coach or a defensive coordinator. He already had a great deal of influence when it came to the draft and personnel decisions off the field.

 

This team is more McDermott's than it ever has been. These press conferences will become more and more unsettled if the team continues to flounder because he has truly run out of scapegoats. Talking about "what's wrong with Josh" might be foreshadowing to who's going to bear the burden of McDermott's failures as a coach and leader this offseason.

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, stevewin said:

This really is a chance for McD at least behind the scenes to back away from the complimentary football narrative and neutered low positive Josh and just tell Brady to set him loose.  If it doesn't work out he just publicly scapegoats Brady and has an out.  He has to see at this point what cutting Josh's balls off has wrought 

And the fact is, he doesn't even have to scapegoat Brady.  It's as simple as saying:

 

"it was a short week and we were trying to see what we could do to get some more energy out of the guys.  Did some good things and thing they are going to keep getting better moving forward."

 

No blame needed and can let Josh be Josh.  Now if Josh ends up doing the same thing that he did in the first game, that's where the blame is going to go and rightfully so.

[Einstein's Dog]

3 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

And the fact is, he doesn't even have to scapegoat Brady.  It's as simple as saying:

 

"it was a short week and we were trying to see what we could do to get some more energy out of the guys.  Did some good things and thing they are going to keep getting better moving forward."

 

No blame needed and can let Josh be Josh.  Now if Josh ends up doing the same thing that he did in the first game, that's where the blame is going to go and rightfully so.

There will be no scapegoating of Brady, it's all set up to remain with Dorsey.  Curtailing Josh's running was a team decision to increase the odds he makes it through the season and to lengthen Josh's career.   

 

Now if that restriction is lifted the offense should be more dangerous.

[The Wiz]

1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:

There will be no scapegoating of Brady, it's all set up to remain with Dorsey.  Curtailing Josh's running was a team decision to increase the odds he makes it through the season and to lengthen Josh's career.   

 

Now if that restriction is lifted the offense should be more dangerous.

The question is whether McD will lift that restriction or not.

 

At this point, he'd be a fool not to so then the blame can be directed at Dorsey even more for limiting Josh even though McD was likely heavily in favor of it.

 

The best part is, he won't even have to point at Dorsey if Josh starts playing Luke he used to.  The media and fans will do it for him.

[Eastport bills]

Either Sean doesn’t realize or he is reluctant to accept the team’s struggles are all his responsibility. He’s been taking the credit for the team’s ascent as the best team not to win a championship, now he must stop scapegoating Josh and the OC and the players that blew the Denver game. It’s the classic example of a coach who’s voice is getting old and not registering with the players. His assistant coaches have been epic failures and his draft choices have not produced impact players. His roster consistently is overpaid  leaving cap space constraints and he’s losing to inferior teams. His game day decision making shows little confidence in the offense and it exposes an injury riddled defense.. Any criticism of Josh should be left unsaid knowing he’s got a crisis of confidence and doesn’t benefit from negativity in national media. Sean’s tenure has run its course and we won’t win with him going forward. If Pegula doesn’t understand this we’re in trouble.

[Shaw66]

2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I know it's sacrilegious to say it, but Beane hasn't drafted that well. 

It makes you wonder shaw.  One thing I kept hearing with dabol is taking plays out Josh didn't like.

 

Why?

 

You are limiting your offense if you can't use the full playbook.  You also  become predictable 

Seems to me it's a two-way street.  There has to be a positive, productive relationship among QB, HC, and QB.  They do have to listen to Allen, but Allen also has to respond to their leadership.  

 

Allen has to want to be great and be willing to do whatever it takes.  As someone said, he needs to be obsessed about football excellence.  That comes both from I side and leadership on the outside.  

 

I go back to Belichick and Brady.  Bill was a defensive coach, but he and Brady were always on the same page when it came to what Brady was doing on the field.  These recent comments suggest that McDermott delegated the care and feeding of Josh to the OC.  If he did, that was a mistake.

 

McDermott has the obsession.  He needs to draw Allen in.

 

Allen needs to see and live the vision of true greatness.  I thought he was getting it earlier this year but, no.  The best way to see it is to hang out with McDermott.  

[PromoTheRobot]

5 hours ago, Aimee75 said:

As someone who tries not to get into this stuff about his personal life, I really don't think this is the case. I have heard they have broken up numerous times, and that he wanted her out and she didn't want to go.If he really wanted her back, I have a feeling he could have her back. He seems pretty happy with Hailee Steinfeld, and their relationship is a lot more lowkey. My old employer and former co-worker did a dinner for them  a couple weeks ago. Maybe the drama of the whole situation with Brittany bothers him, but who knows. I don't think he is missing her and is quite happy with Steinfeld, even though it's a big change in his life.

 

Like I said, I was just guessing. Sounds like you have closer info than me.

[Einstein]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

Jawaan Taylor sucks and was a horrific overpay.

 

They also drafted a horror show of WR talent. 
 

Defense has been great. Eagles will beat them comfortably. 

 

Taylor is one of the top rated pass blocking tackles in the NFL. He’s not great at run blocking but the Chiefs rarely run.

[Einstein]

4 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Other than the top pick last year (which can still pan out ) Beane's draft classes have been top notch. 

 

Beane has been consistent with drafting average players (which is honestly an improvement over most GM’s).

 

Meaning, his draft picks are rarely ever awful. The majority of them can start or play rotationally.

 

But he has been very bad at drafting great players.

 

In Beane’s tenure he has drafted 44 players:

 

0 MVP

 

0 OPOY

 

0 DPOY

 

0 First team all-pro

 

0 OROY

 

0 DROY

 

3 Pro Bowlers (Allen, Knox, and Edmunds)

 

[Billl]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

Jawaan Taylor sucks and was a horrific overpay.

 

They also drafted a horror show of WR talent. 
 

Defense has been great. Eagles will beat them comfortably. 

WTF?  Taylor was getting called for formation penalties early in the season, but he’s adjusted and been very good overall this season.  The Chiefs drafted Skyy Moore late in the second round two years ago, and he’s sucked.  They drafted Rashee Rice in the second last year, and he’s been excellent.  

[The Wiz]

11 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Beane has been consistent with drafting average players (which is honestly an improvement over most GM’s).

 

Meaning, his draft picks are rarely ever awful. The majority of them can start or play rotationally.

 

But he has been very bad at drafting great players.

 

In Beane’s tenure he has drafted 44 players:

 

0 MVP

 

0 OPOY

 

0 DPOY

 

0 First team all-pro

 

0 OROY

 

0 DROY

 

3 Pro Bowlers (Allen, Knox, and Edmunds)

 

This is a joke right?

[Billzgobowlin]

9 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Beane has been consistent with drafting average players (which is honestly an improvement over most GM’s).

 

Meaning, his draft picks are rarely ever awful. The majority of them can start or play rotationally.

 

But he has been very bad at drafting great players.

 

In Beane’s tenure he has drafted 44 players:

 

0 MVP

 

0 OPOY

 

0 DPOY

 

0 First team all-pro

 

0 OROY

 

0 DROY

 

3 Pro Bowlers (Allen, Knox, and Edmunds)

 

How many top 15 picks has he had?  It's very hard to get those type of players without getting a top draft pick.  If you do it generally has to be a development like Milano which takes some time.  I think last year was the first year he was able to draft an obvious talent like Kincaid in the first.  

[In Summary]

Sounds pretty normal to me for an organization needing to correct its path.

[SoonerBillsFan]

59 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

Seems to me it's a two-way street.  There has to be a positive, productive relationship among QB, HC, and QB.  They do have to listen to Allen, but Allen also has to respond to their leadership.  

 

Allen has to want to be great and be willing to do whatever it takes.  As someone said, he needs to be obsessed about football excellence.  That comes both from I side and leadership on the outside.  

 

I go back to Belichick and Brady.  Bill was a defensive coach, but he and Brady were always on the same page when it came to what Brady was doing on the field.  These recent comments suggest that McDermott delegated the care and feeding of Josh to the OC.  If he did, that was a mistake.

 

McDermott has the obsession.  He needs to draw Allen in.

 

Allen needs to see and live the vision of true greatness.  I thought he was getting it earlier this year but, no.  The best way to see it is to hang out with McDermott.  

I think they need to sit down and iron whatever out and get on the same page.  Shanahan got Elway to buy into the WCO.  look at how Bill Walsh and Montana got along.

 

If you don't have that, it's never going to work.  I'll say again...maybe an offensive HC would be nest for Josh for just that reason

 

[Einstein]

8 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

How many top 15 picks has he had?  It's very hard to get those type of players without getting a top draft pick.  If you do it generally has to be a development like Milano which takes some time.  I think last year was the first year he was able to draft an obvious talent like Kincaid in the first.  

 

He gets a pass because he’s not drafting in the top 15? I disagree.

 

One could honestly make an argument that, outside of Josh (1 player), Whaleys last draft (in terms of impact players) was equal to or better than all of Beane’s drafts combined.

 

In that last draft Whaley picked Tre White, Dion Dawkins and Matt Milano. 

[Maynard]

23 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

I want to see that look in Josh's eyes again too

From the bottom or top? 

[Shaw66]

25 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I think they need to sit down and iron whatever out and get on the same page.  Shanahan got Elway to buy into the WCO.  look at how Bill Walsh and Montana got along.

 

If you don't have that, it's never going to work.  I'll say again...maybe an offensive HC would be nest for Josh for just that reason

 

Yeah, the nature of the relationship, and the importance of it, is an argument for an offensive HC, to be sure.  

[TheFunPolice]

17 hours ago, Bimmer323i said:

Did you see him at the end of his presser… He was literally shaking….

 

I thought it was just me, but he seems quite flustered. Which is how he coaches when the moments are biggest.

 

If you think about it, this is the first time he has really faced any serious and sustained criticism. It's not just local media, which is tame, but national media just tearing him apart. 

 

Even after 13 seconds he just shut down questions and everyone disappeared into the off-season. Then it was "we're looking ahead not into the past" and the team won a lot of games in 22 so it wasn't a topic he really ever had to deal with publicly.

 

Who knows what local Dallas media thinks of Big Mike McCarthy unless you're in Dallas. But every national sports show tears the guy apart along with Dak after every stumble. 

 

These guys care a lot more about their careers and reputation around the league than what the local cheerleaders in the media think.

 

 

 

 

[RyanC883]

1 hour ago, The Wiz said:

This is a joke right?

 

facts are a joke?