McDermott weird comments about Josh Allen

[Bills!Win!]

1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said:

We really miss McKittrick on offense. For as much ***** as he got here, we haven't replaced his offensive production (especially first downs) and Sharty has been at best a push as a PR.   But the McKittrick hate runs deep at TBD. I expects lots of eye rolls, dislikes, and disagrees to this post, but I don't care. We wasted lots of cap space on Sharty and Sherfield and got little to nothing in return. 

maybe we can make a yearly tradition of signing former WRs at the end of the season

[LABILLBACKER]

1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said:

We really miss McKittrick on offense. For as much ***** as he got here, we haven't replaced his offensive production (especially first downs) and Sharty has been at best a push as a PR.   But the McKittrick hate runs deep at TBD. I expects lots of eye rolls, dislikes, and disagrees to this post, but I don't care. We wasted lots of cap space on Sharty and Sherfield and got little to nothing in return. 

As a pass catcher he struggled but I always appreciated his gadget plays. We don't run anything like that anymore. 

[Chaos]

2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

Obviously the problem is McKenzie is no longer here.  He is the guy that brought fun.  No more karaoke during practice for these guys.  That and Josh doesn't even do the handshakes anymore

Coach McDermott provides plenty of fun time for all the players.  In fact there is a whole process sub-culture just for fun. (Soon the Bills will even have a process sub-culture for offense).  No coach in NFL history has ever been more easy going or jovial. The don't need no McKenzies. 

[Nitro]

8 hours ago, The Wiz said:

If you think those comments are weird you should have heard him talk on WGR right before his press conference.  I really haven't had a problem with McD and some of the things he says but this was kind of a "this is my team and you need to do it my way" kind of comment and it really made me lose faith in him.

 

He was asked about the Cook benching after the fumble and basically said that he hadn't earned his trust the same as someone that might have been with the team for a longer period of time.

 

I'm assuming this is a direct "trust" comparison between benching Cook and not benching Davis after he had an INT go off of his hands.  So a guy who fumbled twice in 27 games gets less trust than a 58% catch percentage receiver.  Got it.

That comment on Cook was so old school that it was painful to listen to.  McD uses his RBs as whipping boys.   McD has to do a serious self assessment because he has made his share of boneheaded decisions as a HC.  

[Chaos]

3 minutes ago, Nitro said:

That comment on Cook was so old school that it was painful to listen to.  McD uses his RBs as whipping boys.   McD has to do a serious self assessment because he has made his share of boneheaded decisions as a HC.  

This is not true at all.  Every coaching decision has been correct. Every problem the last six seasons is one of execution. Please pay better attention to the McDermott pressers. 

[Chaos]

2 minutes ago, Since1981 said:

Is this true? If so, holy crap

Please correct your post. What you claim is a quote from me is not. 

[Since1981]

“Low positive” 

“the process”

 

 “low positive” a month ago. WTH was that and where’d it come from to Josh?

 

”trust the process” 

never really understood this. Belacheat, Andy can pull it off. But what part of McCappy proved his process worked?

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Since1981 said:

“Low positive” 

“the process”

 

 “low positive” a month ago. WTH was that and where’d it come from to Josh?

 

”trust the process” 

never really understood this. Belacheat, Andy can pull it off. But what part of McCappy proved his process worked?

Coming to the longest drought in north American professional sports and making the playoffs and turning a toxic culture around seems to show some of the process worked ...

 

Longest drought in north American professional sports 

[Einstein's Dog]

21 minutes ago, Nitro said:

That comment on Cook was so old school that it was painful to listen to.  McD uses his RBs as whipping boys.   McD has to do a serious self assessment because he has made his share of boneheaded decisions as a HC.  

Except McD was right.  Cook was not trustworthy.  When put back in Cook, while running hard, was loose on ball security.

[PromoTheRobot]

9 hours ago, Mango said:

I am very curious what McD's thoughts are on this. 

 

Sean mentioned a personal thing with Josh, won't describe it further. I really think Josh is missing his ex Brittany. I don't think you stay together with someone for that long (since high school) if you don't have a strong connection with them. He screwed up. He let his little head do the thinking. And he is feeling the loss. That thousand-yard stare he has on the sidelines? I'll bet it's this. 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Sean mentioned a personal thing with Josh, won't describe it further. I really think Josh is missing his ex Brittany. I don't think you stay together with someone for that long (since high school) if you don't have a strong connection with them. He screwed up. He let his little head do the thinking. And he is feeling the loss. That thousand-yard stare he has on the sidelines? I'll bet it's this. 

Except many men have gotten second chances and many women let men come back 

 

If Josh was off because Brittany and only that ... How hard is it to call her , see her, apologize and make amends?

 

Especially with people you've known for 15 years ?

 

Answer : not hard ... Josh could make amends if he wanted ... He chose 

Edited November 18, 2023 by Buffalo716

[DC Greg]

2 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I don't agree that we know that for McDermott.   I think there are people who do know, most importantly Beane and Terry Pegula.   They know what the relationship is like, and I'd expect that Mr. Pegula will be thinking a lot about it for the next few months.   He may do his thinking on his own, he may do it with Beane, but he'll be thinking.   

 

But he might very well simply say to himself, "I trust Sean.  I decided to go on a journey with Sean, and I'm on it."

Oh for sure Pegula may do that… it’s my biggest fear. If he keeps on with McD for another year, things may really bottom out. But I won’t be surprised if he does keep him there for $ and because he just likes him personally.

[The Helmet of]

9 hours ago, Mango said:

 

For all the talk about Dorsey's X's and O's I think your point was likely his biggest flaw. A huge part of coaching isn't just telling people the right things to do, it is getting them to do those things, finding the right words, to get the desired results. In fact, most coaches in the NFL are likely pretty comparable when it comes to x's and o's, but the difference between good to great is communicating that, and providing the proper environment/structure around it. 

Like a bunch of former QB's have said "guys are open, you have to make a play". Some of that is on the individual and some is on the coach. 

Whatever Dorsey was saying, nobody was hearing. It was time to move on because of that more so than any play call. 

 

 

I posted this in another thread, but it's super related to Dorsey's leadership position. It's clear that Dorsey is NOT A LEADER OF MEN. 

 

Watched Joe Brady's press conference. He is a hell of a lot more articulate than Dorsey.

 

I couldn't believe how INARTICULATE Dorsey was! Stammering, stuttering, evading, incoherent guy when speaking. Either he wasn't aware, or he did not care about his poor public speaking. It seems a JOKE now that he was being considered for head-coaching gigs last year. How can a guy like that, who can barely speak, barely answer a question, be the face of a franchise?

 

Not to mention, if he can't communicate in a down-to-earth way to the press, how well is he going to communicate with his players? I know it does not directly correlate, but it's a reasonable question to ask. Communication skills are communication skills. Dorsey, judging by his press conferences, had PATHETIC communication skills 

 

"Yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah no, no yeah,"  over and over again. What a weird verbal tic. Why speak that way when performing public speaking engagements? It's part of your job (even if it's not the most important one." You should still try to get better at it.

 

Brady at least speaks confidently and commandingly. It may not translate into results. But at least you can listen to him speak without cringing

[The Helmet of]

9 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

Wow that is unhinged. Cook hadn't fumbled since his very first snap in his very first game. We lost two drives because of Murray's mistakes - on one drive he dropped a pass with only one man to beat in front of him, and then on another drive he got tracked down and tackled by a freaking nose tackle.

 

McDermott is floundering IMO.

The big mistake in all of this was choosing Dorsey in the first place. Who lets a 26 year QB choose his own offensive coordinator? That's ridiculous. "We want Josh to be happy and comfortable." Again, ridiculous. Pick the best coach. Dorsey was not the best guy available to coach the 11 guys on offense. 

Edited November 18, 2023 by MarkKelso'sHelmet

[PromoTheRobot]

29 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Except many men have gotten second chances and many women let men come back 

 

If Josh was off because Brittany and only that ... How hard is it to call her , see her, apologize and make amends?

 

Especially with people you've known for 15 years ?

 

Answer : not hard ... Josh could make amends if he wanted ... He chose 

 

Extremely. You don't know where things stand with her. Josh might have crossed the line that broke her faith in him. A bridge burned too far.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

11 minutes ago, MarkKelso'sHelmet said:

 

 

I posted this in another thread, but it's super related to Dorsey's leadership position. It's clear that Dorsey is NOT A LEADER OF MEN. 

 

Watched Joe Brady's press conference. He is a hell of a lot more articulate than Dorsey.

 

I couldn't believe how INARTICULATE Dorsey was! Stammering, stuttering, evading, incoherent guy when speaking. Either he wasn't aware, or he did not care about his poor public speaking. It seems a JOKE now that he was being considered for head-coaching gigs last year. How can a guy like that, who can barely speak, barely answer a question, be the face of a franchise?

 

Not to mention, if he can't communicate in a down-to-earth way to the press, how well is he going to communicate with his players? I know it does not directly correlate, but it's a reasonable question to ask. Communication skills are communication skills. Dorsey, judging by his press conferences, had PATHETIC communication skills 

 

"Yeah, no, yeah, no, yeah no, no yeah,"  over and over again. What a weird verbal tic. Why speak that way when performing public speaking engagements? It's part of your job (even if it's not the most important one." You should still try to get better at it.

 

Brady at least speaks confidently and commandingly. It may not translate into results. But at least you can listen to him speak without cringing

[Buffalo716]

8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Extremely. You don't know where things stand with her. Josh might have crossed the line that broke her faith in him. A bridge burned too far.

I've had family members who got divorced and remarried 20 years later to the same spouse 

 

True love can always rekindle

Edited November 18, 2023 by Buffalo716

[Shaw66]

40 minutes ago, DC Greg said:

Oh for sure Pegula may do that… it’s my biggest fear. If he keeps on with McD for another year, things may really bottom out. But I won’t be surprised if he does keep him there for $ and because he just likes him personally.

Oh, if Terry P. keeps McDermott for 24, I think he's keeping him for multiple years after.  If he's guided by belief in Sean and by belief in continuity as organization principle, keeping him next is deciding you're in with the next run.  And, yes, as you say, that belief in Sean would almost certainly mean Pegula likes him personally.

 

It would be interesting to know what up-and-coming offensive assistant coaches think about the Bills OC position.   If you would like to have a future that follows the standard ladder - Assistant, Position Coach, Coordinator, Head Coach, would Buffalo be attractive?  Or do assistants around the league already think that the environment is poisoned, and the coordinator position there won't be a good stepping stone?  When Sean McDermott goes to the market to hire the next OC, will the best candidates submit their resumes?

[PromoTheRobot]

16 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

I've had family members who got divorced and remarried 20 years later to the same spouse 

 

True love can always rekindle

 

Not every story ends in forgiveness.

[The Wiz]

1 hour ago, Since1981 said:

“Low positive” 

“the process”

 

 “low positive” a month ago. WTH was that and where’d it come from to Josh?

 

”trust the process” 

never really understood this. Belacheat, Andy can pull it off. But what part of McCappy proved his process worked?

"low positive" vs "high fructose" 

 

I'd rather have "high fructose" Josh.