What’s your opinion of Gabe Davis on this play?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Are you ok with the result or do you think this should’ve been a much bigger play?

 

To me this is exactly why I believe he’s not good enough. Davis runs a simple route vs zone. Allen makes an unbelievable throw setting up what I believe should’ve been a long TD.

 

 

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Are you ok with the result or do you think this should’ve been a much bigger play?

 

To me this is exactly why I believe he’s not good enough. Davis runs a simple route vs zone. Allen makes an unbelievable throw setting up what I believe should’ve been a long TD.

 

 

There are a lot of examples of Davis being subpar. This to me isn't one of them. 

 

He actually found a good spot to sit in the zone, caught the ball and turned upfield for some YAC. This was a good play. 

 

The places where he HASN'T been good enough are when he's cutting off routes and Allen is seeing something different.

[Simon]

Gabe Davis is not going to run away from a bunch of NFL DB's.

They are just too fast.

[BillsFan130]

Good find.

To your point if that’s an above average speed WR, that goes for another 20-30 yards or even a TD

[Bray Wyatt]

I dont think it would have been a TD but feel like if he just kept running toward the sideline he would have had a lot more yards

[BuffaloBillies]

Probably could have angled toward the sideline more after catch for a couple extra yards. But I'm just glad he caught it.

[Bray Wyatt]

Just now, BuffaloBillies said:

Probably could have angled toward the sideline more after catch for a couple extra yards. But I'm just glad he caught it.

 

Truth!

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

There are a lot of examples of Davis being subpar. This to me isn't one of them. 

 

He actually found a good spot to sit in the zone, caught the ball and turned upfield for some YAC. This was a good play. 

 

The places where he HASN'T been good enough are when he's cutting off routes and Allen is seeing something different.

This to me is 100% why he’s not good. I think he simply ran his route. I don’t think this is an option or anything.

[Brand J]

He’s not a quick twitch WR, but if Davis was faster and more explosive, he would’ve got away from #32, but #29 will catch just about every guy in the league since he had a head start. Maybe a freak like Tyreek Hill could run away from everyone there. Maybe. I think even he gets caught though.

[Dan Darragh]

I've wondered whether Davis' failure to shine is a lack of talent or whether he was being schemed into oblivion by the play calling.

 

I guess we're about to find out.

[BillsFan2313]

He did everything fine there, he just doesn't have the speed to do more

[Royale with Cheese]

He isn't running away from people after a catch where he's catching a ball static....he doesn't have acceleration to get by DB's.  

He's a big body WR that is a threat downfield because he his size and he is fast at about the 20 yard mark.  He's like King Koopa in MarioKart.

[bmur66]

I was happy he caught it.

[somnus00]

To the people who don't think Josh is elite... this throw is ridiculous.

[zow2]

I was sold on Gabe a few years ago., and was wrong.  Can't wait till next season when he's not here.  Allen will have a new cast of characters to throw the ball to.

[BuffaloBillyG]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

This to me is 100% why he’s not good. I think he simply ran his route. I don’t think this is an option or anything.

Against zone that is a read play. The odds that his route just happened to rest in the soft part of the zone are pretty obscure IMO. I'm not a huge Davis defender by any means...but this was a good play.

 

Your claim that he's not good because he ran his route is....weird. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Just now, BillsFan2313 said:

He did everything fine there, he just doesn't have the speed to do more

That’s the problem. 

 

Allen needs better from his WR here.

1 minute ago, somnus00 said:

To the people who don't think Josh is elite... this throw is ridiculous.

It’s an unbelievably difficult throw.

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Against zone that is a read play. The odds that his route just happened to rest in the soft part of the zone are pretty obscure IMO. I'm not a huge Davis defender by any means...but this was a good play.

 

Your claim that he's not good because he ran his route is....weird. 

I didn’t say he’s not good because he ran his route. I called the route simple. If you think it’s an option then I’ll say it was simple recognition.

 

The point is how mediocre Davis is after the catch. After his QB set him up with an amazing throw.

[BarleyNY]

11 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

There are a lot of examples of Davis being subpar. This to me isn't one of them. 

 

He actually found a good spot to sit in the zone, caught the ball and turned upfield for some YAC. This was a good play. 

 

The places where he HASN'T been good enough are when he's cutting off routes and Allen is seeing something different.

 

Exactly this. /thread

Edited November 16, 2023 by BarleyNY

[Low Positive]

9 minutes ago, somnus00 said:

To the people who don't think Josh is elite... this throw is ridiculous.

The throw is elite. But we can pick nits here too. He bailed on a clean(ish) pocket early. He also had a really easy completion to Cook in the middle of the field to get a FD. It was an incredible throw, but the degree of difficulty on that is off the charts. But that's what you get with Josh.

Edited November 16, 2023 by Low Positive

[BuffaloBillyG]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

That’s the problem. 

 

Allen needs better from his WR here.

It’s an unbelievably difficult throw.

I didn’t say he’s not good because he ran his route. I called the route simple. If you think it’s an option then I’ll say it was simple recognition.

 

The point is how mediocre Davis is after the catch. After his QB set him up with an amazing throw.

 

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

This to me is 100% why he’s not good. I think he simply ran his route. I don’t think this is an option or anything.

It's literally what you said. Literally.

 

I will agree it was an amazing throw. It was also in front of him and he had to bring it in. As good of a throw as it was it was a nice snag. That slowed him up. And yes, he doesn't have the quick twitch that some have...but he still turned it up field and gained YAC. 

 

Point being this is an odd play to single out and try to make the point that Davis sucks. There are far better options to prove that point