Joe Burrow on Joe Brady

[Allen2Moulds]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/joe-burrow-praises-bills-joe-brady-very-creative/ar-AA1jY8KF?ocid=socialshare

Sounds like he's everything Dorsey was not. 

[bmur66]

Allen has been in a funk since last year. Brady has been his QB Coach. Not sure that’s the guy that is going to pull him out of it. Time will tell I guess.

[Bruffalo]

2 minutes ago, bmur66 said:

Allen has been in a funk since last year. Brady has been his QB Coach. Not sure that’s the guy that is going to pull him out of it. Time will tell I guess.

Impossible to know without being in the room.  Better to make a change though than stick with one of the most predictable offenses in the NFL. 

[FilthyBeast]

I'm still skeptical of Brady because pretty sure most posters on this board could have been the OC at LSU and had similar success with the absurd amount of talent they had there when Brady coached.

 

He wasn't impressive at all when he was OC at Carolina either, but big difference between what he was working with (specifically at QB) compared to current situation in Buffalo.

[ALLinALLEN]

1 minute ago, FilthyBeast said:

I'm still skeptical of Brady because pretty sure most posters on this board could have been the OC at LSU and had similar success with the absurd amount of talent they had there when Brady coached.

 

He wasn't impressive at all when he was OC at Carolina either, but big difference between what he was working with (specifically at QB) compared to current situation in Buffalo.

He had 3, 1k receivers with teddy two gloves so he certainly can scheme the passing game well.

[zow2]

It’s not like Joe Brady is taking over to work with Tyson Bagent or someone of that caliber. This is Josh Freakin Allen. One of the best QB talents and athletic dudes in the entire league.  So this is an amazing situation for Brady to really shine here.  We’ll see. If he can break Allen out of this slump he will be The Man.

[SoonerBillsFan]

6 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

I'm still skeptical of Brady because pretty sure most posters on this board could have been the OC at LSU and had similar success with the absurd amount of talent they had there when Brady coached.

 

He wasn't impressive at all when he was OC at Carolina either, but big difference between what he was working with (specifically at QB) compared to current situation in Buffalo.

IF I remember correctly, Brady was forced to run Rhule's offense, not his own. I could be wrong.

2 minutes ago, zow2 said:

It’s not like Joe Brady is taking over to work with Tyson Bagent or someone of that caliber. This is Josh Freakin Allen. One of the best QB talents and athletic dudes in the entire league.  So this is an amazing situation for Brady to really shine here.  We’ll see. If he can break Allen out of this slump he will be The Man.

Another positive is he has been Allens QB coach. He has seen how he reacts to situations, they have talked so they have a measure of trust as well. IF brady can be allowed to implement the offense he did at LSU, we might have a chance of starting to pull Allen out of this funk.

[Royale with Cheese]

12 minutes ago, bmur66 said:

Allen has been in a funk since last year. Brady has been his QB Coach. Not sure that’s the guy that is going to pull him out of it. Time will tell I guess.

 

If it's game planning, personnel use in each package and play calling....that's a Dorsey thing and not a Brady thing.

 

I am sure Brady is going to make changes.  What was used prior wasn't working.

[C.Biscuit97]

43 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/joe-burrow-praises-bills-joe-brady-very-creative/ar-AA1jY8KF?ocid=socialshare

Sounds like he's everything Dorsey was not. 

Haha, yeah. Now all we need are arguably the top 2 receivers in the nfl, a 1st round rb, and to play against college teams!!!!

 

brady got fired after 4 games in the nfl. Huge difference between the nfl and college. By all accounts, he’s a good and charismatic guy. But you aren’t going to magically have a different offense. You need to call/ encourage Allen to run more, stop constant shotgun, giving up on your best rb early in games, and take shots.

3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

IF I remember correctly, Brady was forced to run Rhule's offense, not his own. I could be wrong.

LSU has more offensive talent than most nfl teams had that year.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

17 minutes ago, bmur66 said:

Allen has been in a funk since last year. Brady has been his QB Coach. Not sure that’s the guy that is going to pull him out of it. Time will tell I guess.

To be fair, when Allen was brilliant with DaBoll, there was no funkiness with Dorsey as the QB coach. 

[transient]

Brady was not THE OC at LSU, he was co-OC. He was the passing game coordinator, Steve Ensminger was the running game coordinator. When Carolina tabbed him to be their OC he had never had the responsibility of the total OC position… and they were a pass happy offense that featured Sam Darnold and CMC… not exactly playing to their strengths. 

[Ga boy]

Joe should study the film of the opener and do the opposite.

[Logic]

I think the Bills are in a win/win right now as far as offensive coordinator is concerned.

Either Joe Brady turns out to be great and creative and a big improvement over Ken Dorsey, in which case the Bills can keep him as OC and have continuity in the playbook and system and a guy who's already been working with Josh, but a better teacher/coach/playcaller running the offense.

- OR - 

Brady proves not to be the guy, and the Bills can go out and find an OC this offseason (assuming they're not also looking for a new HC) that can start fresh and bring completely new ideas to the offense and hopefully reinvigorate Josh and everyone else.

Either way, I'm so relieved that Dorsey is gone. Whether or not McDermott follows him out the door remains to be seen, but hopefully we can all at least agree that the Dorsey move needed to be made, and provides a breath of fresh air to a team direly in need of it.

[RyanC883]

21 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

I'm still skeptical of Brady because pretty sure most posters on this board could have been the OC at LSU and had similar success with the absurd amount of talent they had there when Brady coached.

 

He wasn't impressive at all when he was OC at Carolina either, but big difference between what he was working with (specifically at QB) compared to current situation in Buffalo.

 

Agreed, but he has a decent amount of talent here, just poorly utilized.  

 

He got 4 HC interviews, and one of the teams said they nearly hired him.  For whatever that's worth.  

 

A good experiment for the rest of the season to see if Brady can do it.  If he can't, is it because McD keeps meddling in the offense? 

 

If he can, we may have our issues solved--perhaps.   

[mannc]

3 minutes ago, Logic said:

I think the Bills are in a win/win right now as far as offensive coordinator is concerned.

Either Joe Brady turns out to be great and creative and a big improvement over Ken Dorsey, in which case the Bills can keep him as OC and have continuity in the playbook and system and a guy who's already been working with Josh, but a better teacher/coach/playcaller running the offense.

- OR - 

Brady proves not to be the guy, and the Bills can go out and find an OC this offseason (assuming they're not also looking for a new HC) that can start fresh and bring completely new ideas to the offense and hopefully reinvigorate Josh and everyone else.

Either way, I'm so relieved that Dorsey is gone. Whether or not McDermott follows him out the door remains to be seen, but hopefully we can all at least agree that the Dorsey move needed to be made, and provides a breath of fresh air to a team direly in need of it.

Let me simplify that for you: Brady succeeds and Bills make the playoffs (McDermott stays) or Brady can’t turn the offense around, McDermott is gone and Bills hire an offensive-centric HC.

 

Even more simple: Brady succeeds, McDermott stays; Brady fails, bye-bye Clapper

[John from Riverside]

33 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

I'm still skeptical of Brady because pretty sure most posters on this board could have been the OC at LSU and had similar success with the absurd amount of talent they had there when Brady coached.

 

He wasn't impressive at all when he was OC at Carolina either, but big difference between what he was working with (specifically at QB) compared to current situation in Buffalo.

The QB makes all the difference

4 minutes ago, mannc said:

Let me simplify that for you: Brady succeeds and Bills make the playoffs (McDermott stays) or Brady can’t turn the offense around, McDermott is gone and Bills hire an offensive-centric HC.

 

Even more simple: Brady succeeds, McDermott stays; Brady fails, bye-bye Clapper

I’d like to know why offense of mind for head coach
 

That could very well not happen 

[dma0034]

Has Allen still been working woth Jordan Palmer?

[ngbills]

1 hour ago, Allen2Moulds said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/joe-burrow-praises-bills-joe-brady-very-creative/ar-AA1jY8KF?ocid=socialshare

Sounds like he's everything Dorsey was not. 

Sounds more like he is everything Dorsey was before we saw what Dorsey was. Or maybe its what Dorsey became with McD in his ear. 

Hoping Brady is an actual interim and we finally hire a real OC. Dorsey was not ready and I dont think Brady is either. But maybe he will surprise me. He was essentially Dorsey right hand man and Allen coach the past two years and we have seen a steady decline. Fresh blood seems like what is needed. 

[Lost]

35 minutes ago, Logic said:

I think the Bills are in a win/win right now as far as offensive coordinator is concerned.

Either Joe Brady turns out to be great and creative and a big improvement over Ken Dorsey, in which case the Bills can keep him as OC and have continuity in the playbook and system and a guy who's already been working with Josh, but a better teacher/coach/playcaller running the offense.

- OR - 

Brady proves not to be the guy, and the Bills can go out and find an OC this offseason (assuming they're not also looking for a new HC) that can start fresh and bring completely new ideas to the offense and hopefully reinvigorate Josh and everyone else.

Either way, I'm so relieved that Dorsey is gone. Whether or not McDermott follows him out the door remains to be seen, but hopefully we can all at least agree that the Dorsey move needed to be made, and provides a breath of fresh air to a team direly in need of it.

 

This is exactly why moving on from Dorsey mid season was the right move.  

[34-78-83]

25 minutes ago, mannc said:

Let me simplify that for you: Brady succeeds and Bills make the playoffs (McDermott stays) or Brady can’t turn the offense around, McDermott is gone and Bills hire an offensive-centric HC.

 

Even more simple: Brady succeeds, McDermott stays; Brady fails, bye-bye Clapper

Sorry for so many posters here... McD and his best ever Bills winning % will not be gone after one poor season. That would be such a drought era move. That will only happen if he loses his team in the locker room, which contrary to unfounded assumptions, there is no evidence of at this juncture. 

 

A "playoffs or bust" demand would mean we need to go 5-2/ 6-1 against the remaining schedule which includes PHI, DAL, KC, MIA, LAC. Not realistic at all to expect considering the team as is. Is it possible? Sure.