is there a HC out there worth going after?

[John from Riverside]

2 minutes ago, BBFL said:

Come on John. Everything can run it’s course… McDermott and his tenure have done just that. Season’s fizzle out in an underwhelming fashion under this guy. 

Go ahead and find out what happenes

 

People that are crying for McDermott firing. Deserve exactly what they get whenever the next guy that they bring in fizzles it doesn’t bring them near the production.

[BBFL]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

Go ahead and find out what happenes

 

People that are crying for McDermott firing. Deserve exactly what they get whenever the next guy that they bring in fizzles it doesn’t bring them near the production.

I get it, I do. McDermott has done a great job rebuilding this franchise from where it was but that’s also down to a QB and new ownership wiling to spend the money. You could do just as good, if not better with a replacement. 

Sure you’ll say you could do worse but a change is inevitable if not needed. 

[John from Riverside]

1 minute ago, BBFL said:

I get it, I do. McDermott has done a great job rebuilding this franchise from where it was but that’s also down to a QB and new ownership wiling to spend the money. You could do just as good, if not better with a replacement. 

Sure you’ll say you could do worse but a change is inevitable if not needed. 

Good, if not better with the replacement
 

You absolutely don’t know that

[Brand J]

I’d like the Bills to interview Rich Bisaccia, but his pick of OC would be crucial. 

[Lost]

Not for HC but RGIII proposed this idea on twitter 

 

 

 

Orlovsky later admitted on Pat McAffee show that he is open to the idea of being an OC.   Honestly I'd be all for giving the guy a shot.   His video analysis is pretty good.   

 

I'm also interest in Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik.

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, John from Riverside said:

Good, if not better with the replacement
 

You absolutely don’t know that

 

But we do know that McD will NEVER get us to the promised land, and has already lost the locker room.

 

In this case, the unknown is better than the known.

 

This is where we are as a contender. Have to make scarier decisions when you are a good team that wants to be great. Need to be able to make the tough moves in order to hit the next level.

[John from Riverside]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

But we do know that McD will NEVER get us to the promised land, and has already lost the locker room.

 

In this case, the unknown is better than the known.

 

This is where we are as a contender. Have to make scarier decisions when you are a good team that wants to be great. Need to be able to make the tough moves in order to hit the next level.

This is your feelings talking to you. You have absolutely no way of knowing if he lost the locker room and can’t get us where we need to go.
 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Ryan Dinwiddie, CFL Toronto Argos.

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1.  We can call him 'Dimwit Dinwiddie' when he screws up.

2. Can insert an element of surprise by punting on 3rd downs.

3. Probably will work cheap.  Get him a hotel room at the Econolodge and a meal card for Outback Steakhouse and he'll think he's won the lottery.

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😁

[Gregg]

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Lost said:

Not for HC but RGIII proposed this idea on twitter 

 

 

 

Orlovsky later admitted on Pat McAffee show that he is open to the idea of being an OC.   Honestly I'd be all for giving the guy a shot.   His video analysis is pretty good.   

 

I'm also interest in Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik.

 

 

 

If Orlovsky was serious, I wouldnt be against giving him a shot. Although I'd prefer under a new HC.

 

I'd just be shocked if Dan is serious about giving up his cushy commentating job, and time with his young family, to take a miserable coordinating job.

[BillsFan130]

My wish list in this order:

 

1. Jim harbaugh

2. Ben johnson

3. Kellen Moore.

 

I know they are all gambles, but I want an offensive guy with big upside 

[mannc]

28 minutes ago, dbfla10 said:

Is the risk reward of firing McDermott worth it? I don't see a coach out there that is worth the risk of firing McDermott. At the very least he has made the Bills relevant the last 5/6 years. Something the city was craving/needed.

 

Who is out there that would truly make a difference as HC.

 

IMO theres only 1 coach, and thats a trade with the rams for McVay.

Your low standards are showing.  Some of us are not satisfied with "being relevant" and I damn sure hope Beane and Pegula aren't either.  McDermott has proven that he can't get it done.  And of course, hiring a current NFL HC is far from the only option.  This year alone at least two teams have hit homeruns by hiring young up-and-coming coordinators.  At the end of the season, the Bills will have their pick of potential new head coaches...it's not often a vacancy comes along complete with a certified franchise QB.  

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

This is your feelings talking to you. You have absolutely no way of knowing if he lost the locker room and can’t get us where we need to go.
 

 

 

Bro, wake up and open your eyes. There's no feelings involved in my comments. He's done.

 

 

[Gregg]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

My wish list in this order:

 

1. Jim harbaugh

2. Ben johnson

3. Kellen Moore.

 

I know they are all gambles, but I want an offensive guy with big upside 

 

I would add Eagles OC Brian Johnson as well. That Eagles O is pretty good. We will have the Buffalo Tush Push.

[John from Riverside]

Just now, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Bro, wake up and open your eyes. There's no feelings involved in my comments. He's done.

 

 

Obviously, he is not done. He will be coaching this next week.
 

They just gave him a brand new contract he’s not going anywhere

[Captain Hindsight]

11 minutes ago, Lost said:

Not for HC but RGIII proposed this idea on twitter 

 

 

 

Orlovsky later admitted on Pat McAffee show that he is open to the idea of being an OC.   Honestly I'd be all for giving the guy a shot.   His video analysis is pretty good.   

 

I'm also interest in Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik.

I’d like to see Orvlosky in something other than an analyst role before becoming a full blown OC. Think the Kellen Moore route 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Obviously, he is not done. He will be coaching this next week.
 

They just gave him a brand new contract he’s not going anywhere

 

Depends. If this season continues to go down the toilet. If players voice their displeasure, you know Beane and Pegula will know about it. As far as McDermott's new contract goes. That is pocket money to Terry. That won't stop him from firing him especially if he has lost the locker room.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

With McDermott it's still the facade of robotic responses, that stern tone, that I've seen it all, done it all, heard it all attitude. 
 

We're hanging on to that 2020 AFCCG as our shining moment. 

 

 

[John from Riverside]

Just now, Gregg said:

 

Depends. If this season continues to go down the toilet. If players voice their displeasure, you know Beane and Pegula will know about it. As far as McDermott's new contract goes. That is pocket money to Terry. That won't stop him from firing him especially if he has lost the locker room.

He has not lost the locker room
 

His defense is playing some of the best ball. The bills have seen for quite a while, and that is missing some very high profile players.

 

Offensively how do we know that wasn’t the OC?

[May Day 10]

I dont know.  It isnt my job to vet them.  I want to hesitate to just blurt out known names.  

 

 

What I do want:

An offensive oriented coach - that way you get a team offensive-oriented and you dont need to lose OCs every few years when your offense achieves what it should

 

Innovative - someone out of the lines of what we see out of the "Shanahan tree".  They can look at a unicorn like Josh Allen and essentially make him unstappable.

 

Attention to detail - We cannot have these crazy shortcomings happen that we have beaten to death on the forum (we all know the list).  Maybe have a special department that covers contingencies and every situation that may occur (and can tell them to not do things like challenge a 75/25 8 yard catch when timeouts are crucial)

 

Process and Player-oriented - dont want a loudmouth bully.  I like how our players feel valued here and it is something that has set the Bills ahead of a lot of peers.  McDermott does seem to fit a good balance of being liked and respected by his players.

 

Open to adaptation and change - the team and league will change over the years, may have to change styles or re-think strategies.

 

NFL Experience - to some degree.  Coaches right out of college often have difficulty adapting from being a king to dealing with mega-millionaire adult men

 

 

Pegula (and Id assume Beane) should interview many candidates and score them in these categories.