LeGOATski Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 I get all the of the frustration and wanting to move on from this coaching staff. I advocated for firing Dorsey, but would rather keep McDermott. However, if you're not like me and want a new HC, I've got just the man for you: Mike Norvell I've followed him since he started coaching at ASU (my alma mater). He made their offense legit. Then he went on to be the head coach of Memphis, turning them into a successful team and making the NFL think Paxton Lynch was draftable. Then he goes to FSU and turns them back into an undefeated championship contender. He's an offensive coach, which a lot of Bills fans are clamoring for. He's signed with FSU through 2029, but we know how that goes ... This is the HC you didn't know you wanted. 2 1 1 1 1 2 Quote
jkeerie Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I get all the of the frustration and wanting to move on from this coaching staff. I advocated for firing Dorsey, but would rather keep McDermott. However, if you're not like me and want a new HC, I've got just the man for you: Mike Norvell I've followed him since he started coaching at ASU (my alma mater). He made their offense legit. Then he went on to be the head coach of Memphis, turning them into a successful team and making the NFL think Paxton Lynch was draftable. Then he goes to FSU and turns them back into an undefeated championship contender. He's an offensive coach, which a lot of Bills fans are clamoring for. He's signed with FSU through 2029, but we know how that goes ... This is the HC you didn't know you wanted. I do like what Mike Norvell has done in the college ranks. Likely, though, that is where he wants to stay. I'm trying to think...has there ever been a successful college HC that transitioned to the pros as a HC and enjoyed immediate success? I can think of one...Jim Harbaugh that went from Stanford to the 49ers...but he also played QB in the NFL for 14 years. Anyone else? Edited November 15, 2023 by jkeerie 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 27 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I get all the of the frustration and wanting to move on from this coaching staff. I advocated for firing Dorsey, but would rather keep McDermott. However, if you're not like me and want a new HC, I've got just the man for you: Mike Norvell I've followed him since he started coaching at ASU (my alma mater). He made their offense legit. Then he went on to be the head coach of Memphis, turning them into a successful team and making the NFL think Paxton Lynch was draftable. Then he goes to FSU and turns them back into an undefeated championship contender. He's an offensive coach, which a lot of Bills fans are clamoring for. He's signed with FSU through 2029, but we know how that goes ... This is the HC you didn't know you wanted. Man, he sounds like the next Chip Kelly or Matt Rhule. Can't miss... 1 1 Quote
SirAndrew Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 College coaches are always a big no for me. Someone like Harbaugh with previous NFL success would be an exception. 3 2 Quote
FireChans Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I get all the of the frustration and wanting to move on from this coaching staff. I advocated for firing Dorsey, but would rather keep McDermott. However, if you're not like me and want a new HC, I've got just the man for you: Mike Norvell I've followed him since he started coaching at ASU (my alma mater). He made their offense legit. Then he went on to be the head coach of Memphis, turning them into a successful team and making the NFL think Paxton Lynch was draftable. Then he goes to FSU and turns them back into an undefeated championship contender. He's an offensive coach, which a lot of Bills fans are clamoring for. He's signed with FSU through 2029, but we know how that goes ... This is the HC you didn't know you wanted. Meh, I watch a lot of FSU. Program turn around was more from scouring the transfer portal and getting bonafide NFL talent from all over. Jared Verse, Jermaine Johnson (last year), Trey Benson, Johnny Wilson, Keon Coleman will all be NFLers next year and some of them will be first rounders. Couple that with a weak ACC and there’s your undefeated season. That’s college though and that’s no knock on Norvell. I just don’t see it as some X’s and O’s Mastery. Quote
streetkings01 Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 I’m a diehard FSU fan…….leave Norvell where he’s at. I would love to see this team draft K. Coleman tho. 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Meh, I watch a lot of FSU. Program turn around was more from scouring the transfer portal and getting bonafide NFL talent from all over. Jared Verse, Jermaine Johnson (last year), Trey Benson, Johnny Wilson, Keon Coleman will all be NFLers next year and some of them will be first rounders. Couple that with a weak ACC and there’s your undefeated season. That’s college though and that’s no knock on Norvell. I just don’t see it as some X’s and O’s Mastery. Norvell has a little Ken Dorsey in him……he also loves to run out of the shotgun on 3rd and short. 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I get all the of the frustration and wanting to move on from this coaching staff. I advocated for firing Dorsey, but would rather keep McDermott. However, if you're not like me and want a new HC, I've got just the man for you: Mike Norvell I've followed him since he started coaching at ASU (my alma mater). He made their offense legit. Then he went on to be the head coach of Memphis, turning them into a successful team and making the NFL think Paxton Lynch was draftable. Then he goes to FSU and turns them back into an undefeated championship contender. He's an offensive coach, which a lot of Bills fans are clamoring for. He's signed with FSU through 2029, but we know how that goes ... This is the HC you didn't know you wanted. I don't see it AT ALL. He's just a solid amateur football coach who recruits well and now he's at a top 10 destination for recruits. And additionally he could demand his contract be torn up and turned into a new 10 year $120M if he reaches the playoff..........and Florida State would do it. At the NFL level he'd have less appeal than a number of current OC's............and none of them is getting anywhere near that money/security. Just a complete non-fit in pro football. 1 Quote
FireChans Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, streetkings01 said: I’m a diehard FSU fan…….leave Norvell where he’s at. I would love to see this team draft K. Coleman tho. Norvell has a little Ken Dorsey in him……he also loves to run out of the shotgun on 3rd and short. There’s exactly nothing wrong with running out of shotgun most of the time. Pancheco runs out of the gun a lot. It’s not doing it well that’s more problematic. 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 Great college Coach as an FSU fan. Don't think he'd be as successful as an NFL guy in my opinion. Quote
FireChans Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I don't see it AT ALL. He's just a solid amateur football coach who recruits well and now he's at a top 10 destination for recruits. And additionally he could demand his contract be torn up and turned into a new 10 year $120M if he reaches the playoff..........and Florida State would do it. At the NFL level he'd have less appeal than a number of current OC's............and none of them is getting anywhere near that money/security. Just a complete non-fit in pro football. Well said. College game is just different. Can’t get a Super Bowl by telling FAs there’s a lot of good looking girls in town. 3 Quote
LeGOATski Posted November 15, 2023 Author Posted November 15, 2023 3 hours ago, The Wiz said: The coach I didn't know existed Hence the thread 3 hours ago, FireChans said: Meh, I watch a lot of FSU. Program turn around was more from scouring the transfer portal and getting bonafide NFL talent from all over. Jared Verse, Jermaine Johnson (last year), Trey Benson, Johnny Wilson, Keon Coleman will all be NFLers next year and some of them will be first rounders. Couple that with a weak ACC and there’s your undefeated season. That’s college though and that’s no knock on Norvell. I just don’t see it as some X’s and O’s Mastery. He's turned the program around wherever he's been at, not just FSU. And you can't tell me FSU has had a problem getting NFL talent prior to this... Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 This team needs winning NFL coaches at all levels. It college guys (see Dorsey.) Quote
CSBill Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Beast said: And still don’t. That was too easy 🤪 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 11 hours ago, jkeerie said: I do like what Mike Norvell has done in the college ranks. Likely, though, that is where he wants to stay. I'm trying to think...has there ever been a successful college HC that transitioned to the pros as a HC and enjoyed immediate success? I can think of one...Jim Harbaugh that went from Stanford to the 49ers...but he also played QB in the NFL for 14 years. Anyone else? Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer but Switzer had a great team already. 1 Quote
gjv Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 Norvell currently makes just north of 7mil. He is about to get a huge raise to keep him from going to replace Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M. Quote
H2o Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 The only college coach I would take a swing on, outside of Harbaugh, would be Kirby Smart. He's not an offensive guy, but I have full confidence he could put a competent staff together. He's also been an NFL factory at Georgia the last 3 years. I think he would be successful, but I don't think he leaves the college ranks. Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 11 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Man, he sounds like the next Chip Kelly or Matt Rhule. Can't miss... 11 hours ago, The Wiz said: The coach I didn't know existed Bah! We want a waterboy! 😁 I wonder if McDaniel will still be seen as the 'second coming of Shula' if he hits a down year. Quote
streetkings01 Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 12 hours ago, FireChans said: There’s exactly nothing wrong with running out of shotgun most of the time. Pancheco runs out of the gun a lot. It’s not doing it well that’s more problematic. Running out of shotgun on 3rd/4th and short makes no sense. The RB has to run 5-7 yards just to pick up 1 yard against linebackers that have moved up maybe 2 yards away from the line of scrimmage…..it makes no sense! Quote
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