Big Turk Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: i was just looking for this 😅😅 Josh was also fired from picking offensive coordinators 😅😅 Freaking love that movie! 1 Quote
Motorin' Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Bray Wyatt said: Sounds like management material to me! 1 Quote
BillsFan2313 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Old school vs new school, and Brady has a closer relationship with Allen. My speculation. Shula did good things with a healthy Cam Newton. Not this again Quote
Comebackkid Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: He lends knowledge. I actually thought he could get the OC, has had several good seasons with different QBs. He got fired in Carolina with Dorsey Quote
hondo in seattle Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 Maybe Shula is part of the reason Dorsey was fired. Maybe Dorsey wasn't taking input from Shula (or Brady). So maybe McD fired Dorsey for more than what we were all seeing on the field. Maybe Shula, Brady, and others mentioned their frustrations with Dorsey to McD. We don't know. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Comebackkid said: He got fired in Carolina with Dorsey And their whole coaching staff. We’ve fired good assistants before when dumping a bad HC, not much to read into Just now, hondo in seattle said: Maybe Shula is part of the reason Dorsey was fired. Maybe Dorsey wasn't taking input from Shula (or Brady). So maybe McD fired Dorsey for more than what we were all seeing on the field. Maybe Shula, Brady, and others mentioned their frustrations with Dorsey to McD. We don't know. I think it’s nearly guaranteed that there are things that went on behind the scenes that we don’t know about that also played into this. 2 1 Quote
Chaos Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: And their whole coaching staff. We’ve fired good assistants before when dumping a bad HC, not much to read into I think it’s nearly guaranteed that there are things that went on behind the scenes that we don’t know about that also played into this. I think it’s nearly guaranteed that the dumpster fire we are seeing on the field is more important than secret, hidden behind-the-scenes stuff Quote
LyndonvilleBill Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: As for what Mike Shula does: I guess he has one of the most pleasurable jobs of the entire staff!🤣 1 Quote
LEBills Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: He lends knowledge. I actually thought he could get the OC, has had several good seasons with different QBs. I’m surprised it wasn’t him getting OC too since McD is very familiar with him. Though aside from Cam’s psycho 2015 season where the offense was ranked first in points for, he never had another top 10 offense in 10 other seasons as an NFL OC. I’m not sure Brady is going to be too successful bc he was bad with Carolina but maybe he has untapped potential. His LSU offense was amazing but it had Joe Burrow and the two best receivers in the NFL (Chase and Jefferson) so that made life much easier lol 1 Quote
Milanos Milano Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 He does the Shula hula every Sunday morning and throws a football into the Tonawanda volcano in hopes of awakening the great Josh Allen. Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, LEBills said: I’m surprised it wasn’t him getting OC too since McD is very familiar with him. Though aside from Cam’s psycho 2015 season where the offense was ranked first in points for, he never had another top 10 offense in 10 other seasons as an NFL OC. I’m not sure Brady is going to be too successful bc he was bad with Carolina but maybe he has untapped potential. His LSU offense was amazing but it had Joe Burrow and the two best receivers in the NFL (Chase and Jefferson) so that made life much easier lol Daboll was terrible everywhere he went before here. QB play is usually the big factor. Brady i felt was originally brought in as the potential dorsey replacement if things went well enough that he got head coaching interviews. He now gets a trial run as the season has shifted into preservation mode. I think his role is helping design plays and the playbook, implementing plays within the walkthrough that you want to use, etc. So i don't think he's doing a very good job at the moment, but we don't really know whats going on there so its all speculative. Edited November 14, 2023 by Bleeding Bills Blue Quote
hondo in seattle Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaos said: I think it’s nearly guaranteed that the dumpster fire we are seeing on the field is more important than secret, hidden behind-the-scenes stuff I think this is true. But I do think both contributed. If McD thought that Dorsey was doing everything right and getting the most out of the flawed offensive roster, Dorsey probably would not have been fired. I'm guessing that McD sees it differently. Dorsey was doing something wrong behind the scenes. Maybe bad relationships with players. Maybe not coaching Josh hard enough. Maybe not taking input from Shula and Brady. Maybe not following McD's guidance... I do think the decline of the offense's performance was the main reason. But I think McD saw/heard other things that made him lose faith in Dorsey. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I actually thought we might name him Interim HC if Terry cleaned house this morning. Shula has enough experience to be interim CEO and handle the details. Brady to OC Bobby Babich to DC Oh well, at least we got Dorsey out. Just because Dorsey got canned doesn’t mean no one else is very much on the hot seat! Quote
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, LabattBlue said: You do know he is already on staff? 3 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: He’s been on our staff for a couple years And we just fired the OC! See...bad karma. 1 Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: Freaking love that movie! one of my favorites Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Just because Dorsey got canned doesn’t mean no one else is very much on the hot seat! Oh they/McD definitely are on the hot seat. But after this I dont expect any other changes until the offseason. Quote
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